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    Hey! what do you make of Paul Ryan announcement that he will not run for re-election?
    i'm a bit flummoxed by that one ..

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    Hey! what do you make of Paul Ryan announcement that he will not run for re-election?
    i'm a bit flummoxed by that one ..
    Smart move on Ryan's part. With mid term disaster looming, there'd likely be an attempt to oust him in 2019.
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    THE INVESTIGATIONS ...

    WAPO'S ASHLEY PARKER, CAROL LEONNIG, JOSH DAWSEY
    and TOM HAMBURGER: "Trump's allies worry that federal investigators may have seized recordings made by his attorney": "[Michael] Cohen, who served for a decade as a lawyer at the Trump Organization and is a close confidant of Trump, was known to store the conversations using digital files and then replay them for colleagues, according to people who have interacted with him.

    "'We heard he had some proclivity to make tapes,' said one Trump adviser,
    who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation. 'Now we are wondering, who did he tape? Did he store those someplace where they were actually seized? ... Did they find his recordings?'" https://wapo.st/2GUGB1M

    MICHAEL AVENATTI (@MichaelAvenatti):
    "A considerable amount of electronic data has been obtained by federal law enforcement in connection with the investigation of Mr. Cohen. Some might describe it as a 'mountain of evidence'. And I'm not just talking about a few days ago on Monday ..." ...

    ... "In last 18 mos, Mr. Cohen negotiated yet another hush NDA,
    this time on behalf of a prominent GOP donor who had a relationship with a LA woman, impregnated her and then made sure she had an abortion. The deal provided for multiple payments across many months."

    -- "Before Learning of Raid, Trump's Legal Team Convened to Discuss Mueller Interview,"
    by NYT's Maggie Haberman: "Shortly before news became public on Monday of an F.B.I. raid on the hotel room and office of President Trump's longtime personal lawyer, Mr. Trump's legal team met in Washington to draft a proposal that would allow him to be interviewed by the special counsel in the Russia investigation, according to a person familiar with the matter. The proposal included details on where and under what circumstances such an interview would occur, as well as the potential length, according to the person briefed on the events. ...

    "As they were going over the proposal,
    the president's team learned that the F.B.I. had carried out search warrants at the Rockefeller Center office and Park Avenue hotel room of Mr. Trump's personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, seizing files, opening a safe and taking electronics. ... The news of the raid caught them off guard, according to the person briefed on the discussions, undercutting the 'fundamental assumptions' that had guided the negotiations. Trust with Mr. Mueller's team has been 'damaged,' the person said." https://nyti.ms/2EIEGrb

    MEANWHILE, AT 1600 PENNSYLVANIA ...


    -- HE JUST CAN'T LET AMAZON GO: "Trump orders audit of the Postal Service, after suggesting Amazon is to blame their troubles,"
    by Brent D. Griffiths: "President Donald Trump ordered the U.S. Postal Service to undergo an audit Thursday evening, a move that comes after president's repeated claims that Amazon is fleecing the USPS through alleged unfair business practices. 'The USPS is on an unsustainable financial path and must be restructured to prevent a taxpayer-funded bailout,' reads the executive order Trump issued shortly before 9 p.m.

    "While not explicitly mentioned in the order,
    the president has hammered e-commerce giant Amazon in recent weeks and alleged that the company and its CEO Jeff Bezos are driving the USPS into the ground." https://politi.co/2IRJSv8

    -- ON TRADE: @realDonaldTrump
    at 11:15 p.m.: "Would only join TPP if the deal were substantially better than the deal offered to Pres. Obama. We already have BILATERAL deals with six of the eleven nations in TPP, and are working to make a deal with the biggest of those nations, Japan, who has hit us hard on trade for years!"

    TRUMP TO DO WHAT GEORGE W. BUSH WOULDN'T DO ... "President Trump poised to pardon Scooter Libby, Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, sources say,"
    by ABC News' Jonathan Karl, Katherine Faulders and John Santucci: https://abcn.ws/2EF7nFv

    MATT NUSSBAUM -- HE READ IT, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO -- HOW THEY FARED IN JAMES COMEY'S BOOK
    , according to a manuscript obtained by POLITICO: PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: "I see no evidence that a lie ever caused Trump pain, or that he ever recoiled from causing another person pain, which is sad and frightening. ... This president is unethical, and untethered to truth and institutional values. His leadership is transactional, ego driven, and about personal loyalty." More from Nussbaum on Comey's indictment of Trump's characterhttps://politi.co/2HiHWyR


    ROBERT MUELLER:
    "Bob was not a jokester, and his severe demeanor intimidated most people. ... [Mueller] cared deeply about the rule of law. His whole life was about doing things the right way."


    JEFF SESSIONS:
    "Overwhelmed and overmatched by the job." ... REINCE PRIEBUS: "He often seemed both confused and irritated."


    HILLARY CLINTON:
    Though the email investigation and 2016 election loom large in Comey's book, he writes that he has never met Clinton and offers no assessment of her.


    OBAMA WORLD -- FORMER PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA:
    "I was struck by the way he could see and evaluate a variety of angles on a complicated issue. ... [He] displayed a sense of humor, insight, and an ability to connect with an audience, which I would later come to appreciate in the president even more. These are all qualities that are indispensable in good leaders. ... He was an extraordinary listener, as good as any I've seen in leadership.


    "In various meetings with the president,
    I watched him work hard to draw as many view points as possible into a conversation, frequently disregarding the hierarchy reflected in seating arrangements. ... He really did believe that he, Barack Obama, could always figure out the hardest stuff. ... I had developed great respect for him as a leader and a person."


    DENIS MCDONOUGH:
    "An extraordinarily decent, thoughtful, and yet tough person."


    JAMES CLAPPER:
    "The leader I admired most in government. ... A person who almost perfectly embodied the balances of kindness and toughness."


    LORETTA LYNCH:
    "A smart lawyer and honest person, open to hearing others' points of view."





    Situational awareness: President Trump, who has falsely accused Amazon.com of cheating the Postal Service by taking advantage of bulk delivery rates, last night "ordered a sweeping overhaul of the Postal Service’s business model." (WashPost)

    • Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin will chair the task force, which is to propose changes within 120 days.

    "Trump is poised to pardon Scooter J. Libby, the former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney... The president has already signed off on the pardon, which is something he has been considering for several months, sources told ABC News."







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    Cohen has gone from being a subject in the civil matter of Stormy v. Spanky, to a target in the criminal matter of US v. Cohen. And he taped a lot of convervastions that are now possibly in the possession of SDNY. Beyond working for Spanky, he has few if any other clients. He has biz interests in the taxi business in NY and Chicago, but they've got to be hurting. Since the arrival of Uber etc. the value of NYC taxi medallions has slipped from $1.2M to less than $200K.


    Michael Cohen "under criminal investigation"
    These were the banner headlines on top news sites in the minutes BEFORE Trump's Syria announcement:

    CNN: "Trump's lawyer under criminal investigation."

    NYT: "Trump Sees Inquiry Into Cohen as Greater Threat Than Mueller."

    ABC: "Trump, Cohen spoke Friday as feds look into seized recordings, sources say."

    NBC: "Rod Rosenstein tells confidants he is prepared to be fired."

    WashPost: "RNC official steps down after reported $1.6 million payment to pregnant Playmate."

    Fox News: "McCabe leaked to boost himself, lied about it to Comey and investigators: DOJ watchdog's report."
    The president's anger
    On Friday afternoon -- again, ahead of the Syria announcement -- a source familiar with the president's thinking told CNN's Gloria Borger that he was "pissed, flailing and upset" about the Cohen news... More upset than ever... His anger is "beyond what anyone can imagine..."
    "Den of thieves and lowlifes"
    POTUS expressed some of that anger through Twitter, calling Comey a "slime ball" and referencing a "den of thieves and lowlifes" that "made up" collusion claims. Former federal prosecutor/cable news regular Renato Mariotti tweeted: "The president of the United States just called the FBI a 'den of thieves and lowlifes,' and it won't even be the leading item on the news tonight. Let that sink in for a minute."



    MANU RAJU (@mkraju): "Trump former campaign chairman: indicted ... Trump WH national security adviser: pleads guilty ... Trump former deputy campaign chairman: pleads guilty ... Trump campaign foreign policy adviser: pleads guilty ... Trump personal lawyer and close confidant: under criminal investigation".

    -- SCOOP: PETER STONE
    and GREG GORDON in MCCLATCHY: "Sources: Mueller has evidence Cohen was in Prague in 2016, confirming part of dossier": "The Justice Department special counsel has evidence that Donald Trump's personal lawyer and confidant, Michael Cohen, secretly made a late-summer trip to Prague during the 2016 presidential campaign, according to two sources familiar with the matter. Confirmation of the trip would lend credence to a retired British spy's report that Cohen strategized there with a powerful Kremlin figure about Russian meddling in the U.S. election.


    "It would also be one of the most significant developments
    thus far in Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation of whether the Trump campaign and the Kremlin worked together to help Trump win the White House. ... Cohen has vehemently denied for months that he ever has been in Prague or colluded with Russia during the campaign. Neither he nor his lawyer responded to requests for comment for this story.


    "[I]nvestigators have traced evidence that Cohen entered
    the Czech Republic through Germany, apparently during August or early September of 2016 ... said the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is confidential. He wouldn't have needed a passport for such a trip, because both countries are in the so-called Schengen Area in which 26 nations operate with open borders." http://bit.ly/2IWozcf


    -- NYT'S MIKE SCHMIDT, MAGGIE HABERMAN
    and EILEEN SULLIVAN: "Trump Sees Inquiry Into Cohen as Greater Threat Than Mueller": "President Trump's advisers have concluded that a wide-ranging corruption investigation into his personal lawyer poses a greater and more imminent threat to the president than even the special counsel's investigation, according to several people close to Mr. Trump.


    "As his lawyers went to court in New York on Friday
    to try to block prosecutors from reading files that were seized from the personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, this week, Mr. Trump found himself increasingly isolated in mounting a response.


    "He continued to struggle to hire a new criminal lawyer,
    and some of his own aides were reluctant to advise him about a response for fear of being dragged into a criminal investigation themselves. ... Mr. Trump called Mr. Cohen on Friday to 'check in,' according to two people briefed on the call. Depending on what else was discussed, the call could be problematic, as lawyers typically advise their clients against discussing investigations." https://nyti.ms/2ELVddN


    "FBI seized recordings between Trump's lawyer and Stormy Daniels' former lawyer,"
    by CNN's Gloria Borger, Sara Sidner and Scott Glover: "The FBI seized recordings President Donald Trump's attorney made of his conversations with a lawyer representing two women who had alleged affairs with Trump, a source familiar with the matter tells CNN. The recordings could prove valuable to the government's criminal investigation of Michael Cohen." https://cnn.it/2vgwIGi


    PETER CARR PROFILE -- "Mr. No Comment: Meet the Utahn who speaks for the special counsel's Russia-Trump probe, but don't expect him to say too much,"
    by the Salt Lake Tribune's Tommy Burr: http://bit.ly/2vdFMf9


    DEPT OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES -- DARREN SAMUELSOHN
    on COMEY: "His book, 'A Higher Loyalty,' represents an official statement on key parts of the federal Russia probe-including the question of whether Trump may have sought to obstruct justice, a question Mueller is investigating. Legal experts warn that Comey's own words could complicate court proceedings or a Congressional impeachment debate triggered by Mueller's findings.


    "Prosecutors like Mueller generally cringe when a witness speaks
    at length in public before a case has wrapped up. Comey's blockbuster book and accompanying media tour, which kicks off in primetime on Sunday, will also expose him to the watchful eye of Trump allies and defense lawyers ready to exploit any inconsistencies in his accounts to their clients' benefit." https://politi.co/2GXfovq


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    LOL ...our ***** show goes on ..

    Today it was revealed!!

    Lawyers for Michael Cohen, whose business records were seized by FBI agents April 9, said Cohen had one client other than Trump who didn’t want his name revealed because disclosure was "likely to be embarrassing or detrimental to the client."

    The judge nonetheless ordered the secret client’s name revealed. Guess who?

    And why do you think this client didn't want his name revealed?

    Sean-freakin'-Hannity !!


    LOL

    and this just out from the freshly minted Pulitzer winning NYT : Breaking News: In a blow to President Trump, a judge rejected a request by him and his lawyer to review files seized in FBI raids before prosecutors do.


    YES you read it right: Trump wanted to review the docs himself BEFORE the prosecutor does .... AH AH AHAHA HAHHAHahahaha


    ..freaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by random new yorker View Post
    LOL ...our ***** show goes on ..

    ..freaks.
    Any comments on "Operation Desert Stormy"? Apparently a truly remarkable fiasco. It seems that the Syrians may have the only Star Wars anti-missile system that actually has been proven to work. Courtesy of the Russians of course. Southfront is gloating that just perhaps Russia could win a nuclear war with the USA after all.

    On the less important but more amusing matter of the judicial comedy in New York, seems from today's legal news that the spectacular raid on Trump's fixer lawyer really was all about him and Ms. Stormy, technically at least. If so, Trump really can make a case that bashing down Cohen's door and grabbing all his files was overkill. Granted Cohen probably is involved with enough dirty business to send him to jail many times over, but paying off Stormy just don't cut it.

    As it's not technically part of the Russia investigation, Trump probably could get away with firing the deputy dog who signed off on it, what's his name, Rubinstein?, over it. The mainstream Republicans would whine a bit and then subside, the Democrats don't have the votes in Congress to do anything effective even if they really wanted to, and by election time it would be an ancient memory, along with the Russian investigation itself, which Rubinstein's successor (Alan Dershowitz perhaps?) could bridle easily enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Marxist Historian View Post
    Any comments on "Operation Desert Stormy"? Apparently a truly remarkable fiasco. It seems that the Syrians may have the only Star Wars anti-missile system that actually has been proven to work. Courtesy of the Russians of course. Southfront is gloating that just perhaps Russia could win a nuclear war with the USA after all.
    a nuclear war w with the US would be un-winnable.. we would all die

    as i mentioned above (the Count may have a different take on this) from where I stand ppl didn't give two sheets about bombing Syria .. the show must go on (here in the US) and tis all about Trump.

    there's got to be another way to control the Russians ...basically i don't understand how have we let a country that has an economy the size of the Netherlands + Belgium dominate world politics.

    in terms of GDP the US is 13x bigger than Russia, the EU is the same as US, China I think is 10x bigger than Russia and these ppl with so little threaten the World with nuclear war.


    On the less important but more amusing matter of the judicial comedy in New York, seems from today's legal news that the spectacular raid on Trump's fixer lawyer really was all about him and Ms. Stormy, technically at least. If so, Trump really can make a case that bashing down Cohen's door and grabbing all his files was overkill. Granted Cohen probably is involved with enough dirty business to send him to jail many times over, but paying off Stormy just don't cut it.
    i just heard on NPR that the judge is trying to figure out what constitutes client-counsel privileged information. These guys sure have NY [email protected] i tell ya that !! it will be fun to follow .. (as you can see my post above I am enjoying the freuk show)


    As it's not technically part of the Russia investigation, Trump probably could get away with firing the deputy dog who signed off on it, what's his name, Rubinstein?, over it. The mainstream Republicans would whine a bit and then subside, the Democrats don't have the votes in Congress to do anything effective even if they really wanted to, and by election time it would be an ancient memory, along with the Russian investigation itself, which Rubinstein's successor (Alan Dershowitz perhaps?) could bridle easily enough.

    -AMH
    People in high places here in the US don't think Trump colluded with the Russians as collusion implies intent. I have a hard time accepting that he'd been organized enough to have planed that part of the scheme ahead of time.. it just happened in the flow of his dealings and his business that the Russians where there to help (thanks much) .. from my perspective the important thing right now is to rattle them enough to understand to what extent the Russians and others succeeded in meddling in the 2016 election.

    I recall some of our initial conversations here on this issue where you (and others) were sceptic that there was any meddling .. i was told i was upset T won (blah blah) .. by now you may have changed your mind. That is the point. Is that people understand what happened.

    after Bannon was kicked out to the curb in the summer of 2017 i relaxed as he really was the source of much of what was wrong, a smart and dangerous bitter ideologue, with a couple skills to stir things up .. also one of the founders of Cambridge Analytica ..


    As far as the 2018 midterms let's wait and see.

    The country is morally bankrupt at the moment so I have no clue how it will go in November.

    (PS i think above you mean Rod Rosenstein?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by random new yorker View Post
    a nuclear war w with the US would be un-winnable.. we would all die
    Couldn't agree more. Russians are almost as capable as Americans at boasting and bragging about alleged superior military prowess.

    Quote Originally Posted by random new yorker View Post
    as i mentioned above (the Count may have a different take on this) from where I stand ppl didn't give two sheets about bombing Syria .. the show must go on (here in the US) and tis all about Trump.

    there's got to be another way to control the Russians ...basically i don't understand how have we let a country that has an economy the size of the Netherlands + Belgium dominate world politics.

    in terms of GDP the US is 13x bigger than Russia, the EU is the same as US, China I think is 10x bigger than Russia and these ppl with so little threaten the World with nuclear war.
    All true, and has a lot to do with the remarkable diplomatic ineptitude under Trump, who continuously overplays his tiny hands. A more extreme version of Obama's clumsy Russian policies. Basically what people don't realise is that Trump's peculiar schizophrenic policies towards Putin and Syria are simply Obama's also rather schizophrenic policies towards Putin and Syria, except on steroids and carried out with amazing incompetence. The only virtue, as it were, about Obama's policies is that they did not bring with them the risk of WWIII, as Hillary's did, and as does Trump's in his worst moments.

    The US was prevented from stumbling into a disastrous massive intervention in Syria, totally disastrous for Syria and essentially the same for the US as well, that Hillary almost managed to push Obama into, by Putin. Who over the first brou ha ha over alleged Syrian chemical attacks played the role of the adult in the room, thereby greatly increasing Russia's diplomatic authority in Syrian matters-then of course reinforced by boots on the ground.

    Quote Originally Posted by random new yorker View Post

    i just heard on NPR that the judge is trying to figure out what constitutes client-counsel privileged information. These guys sure have NY [email protected] i tell ya that !! it will be fun to follow .. (as you can see my post above I am enjoying the freuk show)

    People in high places here in the US don't think Trump colluded with the Russians as collusion implies intent. I have a hard time accepting that he'd been organized enough to have planed that part of the scheme ahead of time.. it just happened in the flow of his dealings and his business that the Russians where there to help (thanks much) .. from my perspective the important thing right now is to rattle them enough to understand to what extent the Russians and others succeeded in meddling in the 2016 election.

    I recall some of our initial conversations here on this issue where you (and others) were sceptic that there was any meddling .. i was told i was upset T won (blah blah) .. by now you may have changed your mind. That is the point. Is that people understand what happened.

    after Bannon was kicked out to the curb in the summer of 2017 i relaxed as he really was the source of much of what was wrong, a smart and dangerous bitter ideologue, with a couple skills to stir things up .. also one of the founders of Cambridge Analytica ..
    Indeed. And that's one reason why I can't see why people get so worked up about postings by "Russian [email protected]" Such postings are indistinguishable from the far higher volume of crap posted by the Republicans, Bannon's crowd, and Cambridge Analytica. Higher volume by orders of magnitude. So it is actually impossible that those Russians Mueller indicted could have had any measurable impact on the election.

    And assuming that they were acting on Putin's orders is ignorant, paranoid conspiracy nonsense, in the same category as Republican conspiracy stuff. It ain't just Putin in Russia who hates Hillary. And not just because she is a notorious Russia hater herself, creating reflex dislike. It's kinda cultural. I remember back in the '90s the Russian parliament actually had a discussion over whether to appeal to Monica to change Bill Clinton's mind over bombing Yugoslavia (a foolish idea, she was all in favor). The basic Russian attitude during the Lewinsky affair was that Bill ought to dump that annoying supercilious WASP Hillary for that nice zaftig Russian girl Monica Lewinsky. Even the fact that she was Jewish didn't bother anybody at the time over there.

    As for the very different issue of the hacking of the DNC and Hillary's own emails, I'm skeptical as to Russian involvement because Wikileaks says no, and I have more faith in the veracity of Wikileaks than of American intelligence agencies, who lie all the time. And nor do I care, as if Putin's people really were involved in that, I say mazeltov. That was stuff the American people deserved to know about before election day.

    Hypothetical question: the revelation of the Access Hollywood tapes, which Trump does not quite dare to claim violated his personal privacy, was done in a thoroughly legal fashion. But suppose it had been done through a foreign agency that hated Trump, say Iranian spies. Would you, RNY, consider that to be prosecution worthy interference with American elections? I wouldn't, I'd just say mazeltov to the Ayatollahs.

    Quote Originally Posted by random new yorker View Post
    As far as the 2018 midterms let's wait and see.

    The country is morally bankrupt at the moment so I have no clue how it will go in November.

    (PS i think above you mean Rod Rosenstein?)
    Right, I sometimes get forgetful as I get older. BTW, I'm away from arguing with the Count long enough to say that I do sometimes find his postings useful however much I disagree with them, especially since I don't follow the legal details that well. I note his mentioning that Rosenstein thinks he's about to be fired. A confirmation of my comments. Him no fool.

    -AMH

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Marxist Historian View Post
    All true, and has a lot to do with the remarkable diplomatic ineptitude under Trump, who continuously overplays his tiny hands. A more extreme version of Obama's clumsy Russian policies. Basically what people don't realise is that Trump's peculiar schizophrenic policies towards Putin and Syria are simply Obama's also rather schizophrenic policies towards Putin and Syria, except on steroids and carried out with amazing incompetence. The only virtue, as it were, about Obama's policies is that they did not bring with them the risk of WWIII, as Hillary's did, and as does Trump's in his worst moments.
    are you also walking back from the statement that was made repeatedly during the campaign that T was less likely to start WWIII?


    The US was prevented from stumbling into a disastrous massive intervention in Syria, totally disastrous for Syria and essentially the same for the US as well, that Hillary almost managed to push Obama into, by Putin. Who over the first brou ha ha over alleged Syrian chemical attacks played the role of the adult in the room, thereby greatly increasing Russia's diplomatic authority in Syrian matters-then of course reinforced by boots on the ground.
    so the US was prevented from going to war with Syria in 2012 by Putin? not by Obama good sense that At the end of the day it would have been too costly for the US to get involved cos really they had to put boots on the ground and even back then Obama knew there was zero support for military interventions in other countries?

    somehow you saying above that Putin prevented Obama from getting involved with Syria by what? using his lille man charm on Obama? (Obama as i recall despised Putin - at least as much as I do )



    Indeed. And that's one reason why I can't see why people get so worked up about postings by "Russian [email protected]" Such postings are indistinguishable from the far higher volume of crap posted by the Republicans, Bannon's crowd, and Cambridge Analytica. Higher volume by orders of magnitude. So it is actually impossible that those Russians Mueller indicted could have had any measurable impact on the election.
    ok this is getting old ..

    And assuming that they were acting on Putin's orders is ignorant, paranoid conspiracy nonsense, in the same category as Republican conspiracy stuff. It ain't just Putin in Russia who hates Hillary. And not just because she is a notorious Russia hater herself, creating reflex dislike. It's kinda cultural. I remember back in the '90s the Russian parliament actually had a discussion over whether to appeal to Monica to change Bill Clinton's mind over bombing Yugoslavia (a foolish idea, she was all in favor). The basic Russian attitude during the Lewinsky affair was that Bill ought to dump that annoying supercilious WASP Hillary for that nice zaftig Russian girl Monica Lewinsky. Even the fact that she was Jewish didn't bother anybody at the time over there.
    what nonsensical drivel - one would think you have reasons to hate Hillary yourself.

    As for the very different issue of the hacking of the DNC and Hillary's own emails, I'm skeptical as to Russian involvement because Wikileaks says no, and I have more faith in the veracity of Wikileaks than of American intelligence agencies, who lie all the time. And nor do I care, as if Putin's people really were involved in that, I say mazeltov. That was stuff the American people deserved to know about before election day.
    i stopped reading at " because wikileaks says no" .. some people simply do not understand that Diplomacy does not work without a certain flair of secrecy

    Hypothetical question: the revelation of the Access Hollywood tapes, which Trump does not quite dare to claim violated his personal privacy, was done in a thoroughly legal fashion. But suppose it had been done through a foreign agency that hated Trump, say Iranian spies. Would you, RNY, consider that to be prosecution worthy interference with American elections? I wouldn't, I'd just say mazeltov to the Ayatollahs.
    The Access Hollywood tapes were public beforehand, had aired 10 years before, it was not sensitive material, essential strategic material about an ongoing political campaign ... Heck I recall those watching Billy Bush back then and I heard Trump state much worse to Howard Stern back in the day .... why do you think he is truly hated in NYCity?




    Right, I sometimes get forgetful as I get older. BTW, I'm away from arguing with the Count long enough to say that I do sometimes find his postings useful however much I disagree with them, especially since I don't follow the legal details that well. I note his mentioning that Rosenstein thinks he's about to be fired. A confirmation of my comments. Him no fool.

    -AMH
    Yes it is nice that he keeps updating the thread, i read it sometimes when i dont have much time to browse the news, i suppose he continues to do it as a service to his country .. his way to stay connected ... oh boy all you have to do is to browse your papers to know whatever he posts here should be of value to yous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by random new yorker View Post
    are you also walking back from the statement that was made repeatedly during the campaign that T was less likely to start WWIII?
    Good question. There definitely have been times when I've started to wonder about that. But, being as the only serious WWIII could be between the US and Russia, I'd have to say that despite the scary noises he likes to make, I'd have to say that he is less likely to get involved in a war with Putin's Russia than Hillary would be. He does, fortunately, tend to back off his threats when somebody in another country stands up to him.

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    so the US was prevented from going to war with Syria in 2012 by Putin? not by Obama good sense that At the end of the day it would have been too costly for the US to get involved cos really they had to put boots on the ground and even back then Obama knew there was zero support for military interventions in other countries?

    somehow you saying above that Putin prevented Obama from getting involved with Syria by what? using his lille man charm on Obama? (Obama as i recall despised Putin - at least as much as I do )
    Obama whatever else one can say about him is a serious politician, who does not found policy on personal likes and dislikes. It's not exactly a secret that the reason Hillary's idea of going after Syria full tilt over the first dubious chemical accusations did not fly, even though Obama was about to go along, because Putin got the Syrians to turn over their chemicals (and let's not get into whether they actually turned over all of them, because first who knows and second in this context that's irrelevant). Surely you remember that?

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    ok this is getting old ..

    what nonsensical drivel - one would think you have reasons to hate Hillary yourself.
    I'm not too fond of her, that's true. But on this one I'm just informing you of lay of the land in Russia, a country I've been to. The Russian parliamentary stunt over Lewinsky in 1997 I think it was, was amply reported in the Western press at the time, was indeed pretty dumb. But it happened, and definitely reflected Russian attitudes to the affair. Don't blame me, I'm just the messenger here. Blame the Russian people if you feel that way.

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    i stopped reading at " because wikileaks says no" .. some people simply do not understand that Diplomacy does not work without a certain flair of secrecy
    Eh. I never was a boy scout, but I do believe honesty is the best policy, even in diplomacy. That does mean that those who engage in dirty business behind the scenes, as diplomats like to do, will get in trouble. That's fine with me.

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    The Access Hollywood tapes were public beforehand, had aired 10 years before, it was not sensitive material, essential strategic material about an ongoing political campaign ... Heck I recall those watching Billy Bush back then and I heard Trump state much worse to Howard Stern back in the day .... why do you think he is truly hated in NYCity?
    Sure. But New York City isn't America, and is automatically in the Democratic column on presidential election day anyway, so doesn't matter in Presidentials. Without Access Hollywood, no, all America would not know what a sleazeball Trump was. That "essential strategic material" revealed was stuff like Hillary's dishonest truckling to big money while claiming otherwise in public, her private admission to a buddy that her Saudi friends were funding ISIS, and Debbie Wasserman's dirty stuff done to Sanders, much of which quite possibly was prosecutable if any prosecutors wanted to. Essential strategic material like that is stuff the voters needed to know about on election day.

    That the Access Hollywood tape was public and available and all that, if true, is irrelevant, as until rediscovered during the election campaign nobody even remembered it existed. Suppose it wasn't, and the news got broke by Iranian spies. Would that be prosecution worthy as foreign interference, extremely effective interference unlike the stuff Mueller has charged a few Russians over, with an American election? Or not?

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    In court at 3pm last Friday at the direction of the judge, Cohen's attorney announces that Cohen's third client who had wanted to remain anonymous is Sean Hannity
    On TV at 8pm Hannity says he was never a client. Oops! Now the judge has to decide whether or not he was a client.

    What's wrong with that picture?


    From WaPo:


    It's not technically part of the Russia investigation. It's not President Trump who is being investigated. And it centers on two affairs that the president says never happened. So why is the legal drama surrounding Trump's personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, getting so much attention — and is it worth yours?

    It is worth our attention, for a few reasons.
    1. Cohen has been Trump's secret keeper for more than a decade:The White House has recently tried to separate itself from Cohen, but that's disingenuous. Cohen has called himself the president's “fixer,” and their relationship is notable for just how loyal Cohen has been to Trump. Here's what Cohen said in 2011 about his boss:
    “[I]f somebody does something Mr. Trump doesn’t like, I do everything in my power to resolve it to Mr. Trump’s benefit. If you do something wrong, I’m going to come at you, grab you by the neck, and I’m not going to let you go until I’m finished.”
    Whatever Cohen knows about Trump, the FBI may soon know as well since it raided Cohen's office and residences last week. The raid was very much about Trump. It was part of an investigation into whether Cohen committed any bank fraud or campaign finance crimes in trying to cover up potentially damaging allegations against Trump.
    2. What the FBI finds could bleed over to the Russia investigation:Jeffrey Jacobovitz, a white collar lawyer who represented officials in the Clinton White House, said it's notable that the FBI may have tapes of Cohen and Trump talking. (Cohen was known for taping conversations with his clients.)
    That means the possibility exists for the FBI to uncover inconsistencies with what Trump says publicly on an alleged affair with porn star Stormy Daniels, or on a payment Cohen made to her during the election, or even on Russia.
    Here's a longish piece by ProPublica on Trump attorney Michael Cohen's life before he met Trump. Worth a read....
    https://www.propublica.org/article/t...ailynewsletter
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    More bad news for Spanky...........Guess the publisher would prefer not to have the FBI turn over its offices.

    Ex-Playboy model reaches settlement with tabloid publisher, ending lawsuit over rights to story of her alleged affair with Trump
    The National Enquirer's parent company had bought — but never published — Karen McDougal’s story for $150,000. As part of the settlement, McDougal is no longer bound by the contract, and the company is entitled to 10 percent of any money she makes from the story, up to $75,000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Marxist Historian View Post

    That the Access Hollywood tape was public and available and all that, if true, is irrelevant, as until rediscovered during the election campaign nobody even remembered it existed. Suppose it wasn't, and the news got broke by Iranian spies. Would that be prosecution worthy as foreign interference, extremely effective interference unlike the stuff Mueller has charged a few Russians over, with an American election? Or not?

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    i know you like the sound of my voice but your claim above is just ridiculous..

    you conflate information that is in the public domain (ie Access Hollywood tape) with sensitive secret political campaign information ?
    (I remembered that tape well before he became the candidate and I am sure many other people did.. why do you think they dug it up?? it was well known, there's even worse w the Stern tapes but that is radio, it just doesn't have the same effect as video)

    and what exactly is your problem w Mueller charging a few Russians over meddling in the 2016 elections if you truly believe they are innocent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    More bad news for Spanky...........Guess the publisher would prefer not to have the FBI turn over its offices.

    Ex-Playboy model reaches settlement with tabloid publisher, ending lawsuit over rights to story of her alleged affair with Trump
    The National Enquirer's parent company had bought — but never published — Karen McDougal’s story for $150,000. As part of the settlement, McDougal is no longer bound by the contract, and the company is entitled to 10 percent of any money she makes from the story, up to $75,000.
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    After Stormy Daniels no one will be paying attention to this McWoman .. the people that voted for the piece of trash in the WH knew he is garbage when they voted for him (ie the Access Hollywood tape + hours of his interviews with Howard Stern... g-d if you really want sleaze you can entertain yourself with that...).

    the Donald is all there is. Tis a show. Today he is on record saying that "He might or might not meet with North Korea KJ Un." backtracking obviously like he has done with pretty much everything he says...

    it pains me to see Melania beside him. She has to look at his face everyday.
    Most women don't care about infidelity until they find out about it. With this man tis a never ending string of denigrating affairs.

    Unless Karen Mc has tapes and is leading her man on a leash...and even then i am sure the trumptards out there will cry foul n complain Hillary forced him to do it ...

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