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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Will open a new thread later on "Team Trump" unless someone else gets there first.

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    I'd suggest opening a new thread pretty quickly and calling it something like The Trump Whitehouse.

    It'd be better to have the early team formation choices of his Whitehouse in a thread that will run and run rather than leaving all that info behind in the election thread.

    As for Trump's Conservative choices, well isn't that the path the American voters decided they wanted to go when they gave all the cards to the Republican Party?

    It just goes to show how the selfishness and cash rich domination of the democratic presidential nomination primaries by team Clinton has knocked out the probability of a Democratic Party President and has also destroyed the only brake on Conservative politics that the electorate were willing to deliver. It's also quite possible that Trump will knock a second term out of the Presidency.


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    A bit of data gathering is needed on this thread at this stage - all contributions on who is who in the Trump team/gang welcome.

    this is a Guardian article on some of Trump's political associates, pre-election.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...trump-campaign
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    Steve Bannon. Irish by the look of him and his name. No stranger to the ' cratur' I'd hazard. So far Right he's fallen over the starboard side. Accused by his ex of Anti Semitic views and comments. If he screws up he will get a gig on the Sindo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donal Og View Post
    Steve Bannon. Irish by the look of him and his name. No stranger to the ' cratur' I'd hazard. So far Right he's fallen over the starboard side. Accused by his ex of Anti Semitic views and comments. If he screws up he will get a gig on the Sindo!
    A white supremacist, nice. At this rate there'll be a few of Team Trump turning up for work in Daz white robes.

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    Yes. It's getting beyond satire.But a lot of these guys are unacquainted with administration or the bread and butter issues.I expect many of them will melt away like Perle and Wolfovitz , mumbling their half apologies. Dilettantes , like Boris Johnson but lacking his redeeming features.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    A bit of data gathering is needed on this thread at this stage - all contributions on who is who in the Trump team/gang welcome.

    this is a Guardian article on some of Trump's political associates, pre-election.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...trump-campaign

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    Thank you for grouping my Trumpian posts under one title called "Trumpian threads". I would appreciate very much if you could help delete the other two extra "Trumpian threads" that were somehow created by mistake.
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    alleged liberals (Soros, like the Clinton's is of course more interested in Soros than anything else) plotting resistance


    George Soros and other rich liberals who spent tens of millions of dollars trying to elect Hillary Clinton are gathering in Washington for a three-day, closed door meeting to retool the big-money left to fight back against Donald Trump.

    The conference, which kicked off Sunday night at Washington’s pricey Mandarin Oriental hotel, is sponsored by the influential Democracy Alliance donor club, and will include appearances by leaders of most leading unions and liberal groups, as well as darlings of the left such as House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, Sen. Elizabeth Warren and Congressional Progressive Caucus co-chairman Keith Ellison, according to an agenda and other documents obtained by POLITICO.

    if the agenda is any indication, liberals plan full-on trench warfare against Trump from Day One. Some sessions deal with gearing up for 2017 and 2018 elections, while others focus on thwarting President-elect Trump’s 100-day plan, which the agenda calls “a terrifying assault on President Obama’s achievements — and our progressive vision for an equitable and just nation.”


    “The DA itself should be called into question,” said one Democratic strategist who has been active in the group and is attending the meeting. “You can make a very good case it’s nothing more than a social club for a handful wealthy white donors and labor union officials to drink wine and read memos, as the Democratic Party burns down around them.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...s-trump-231313
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    alleged liberals (Soros, like the Clinton's is of course more interested in Soros than anything else) plotting resistance


    George Soros and other rich liberals who spent tens of millions of dollars trying to elect Hillary Clinton are gathering in Washington for a three-day, closed door meeting to retool the big-money left to fight back against Donald Trump.

    The conference, which kicked off Sunday night at Washington’s pricey Mandarin Oriental hotel, is sponsored by the influential Democracy Alliance donor club, and will include appearances by leaders of most leading unions and liberal groups, as well as darlings of the left such as House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, Sen. Elizabeth Warren and Congressional Progressive Caucus co-chairman Keith Ellison, according to an agenda and other documents obtained by POLITICO.

    if the agenda is any indication, liberals plan full-on trench warfare against Trump from Day One. Some sessions deal with gearing up for 2017 and 2018 elections, while others focus on thwarting President-elect Trump’s 100-day plan, which the agenda calls “a terrifying assault on President Obama’s achievements — and our progressive vision for an equitable and just nation.”


    “The DA itself should be called into question,” said one Democratic strategist who has been active in the group and is attending the meeting. “You can make a very good case it’s nothing more than a social club for a handful wealthy white donors and labor union officials to drink wine and read memos, as the Democratic Party burns down around them.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...s-trump-231313
    Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other. ~Oscar Ameringer

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    alleged liberals (Soros, like the Clinton's is of course more interested in Soros than anything else) plotting resistance






    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...s-trump-231313
    While the wealthy HRC supporters above make their plans behind closed doors Bernie Sanders is calling for mass mobilisation of ordinary people against Trump.

    He said the party’s unwillingness to challenge the financial establishment was one of the reasons that Trump won.


    “Over the years the Democratic party has become a party more concerned about raising money from wealthy individuals than they have been about bringing working people into the party and taking on the billionaire class, taking on Wall Street, taking on the drug companies or the insurance companies. The Democratic party has not been strong in standing up for the needs of working families. I think people are saying, ‘Well, the Democrats haven’t done it for us, let me try this guy Trump.’”

    As the Democratic party evaluates what went wrong in the election, Sanders said he was leading attempts to radicalise its leadership.

    “I am working right now to find and support new leadership for the Democratic party and an entirely new process by which we welcome working people and young people into that party,” he said.

    Sanders said he was willing to work with Trump if he was serious about honouring campaign pledges about improving the economy for working people.

    But he added: “We are going to oppose him vigorously in terms of his bigotry.

    “The only way that we can stop it is to bring millions of people together to make it clear to Trump and his allies that they will pay a very, very heavy political price if they go forward in policies that the American people don’t want.

    “The progressive agenda about raising the minimum wage, pay equity for women, healthcare for all, making public colleges and universities tuition-free, that is an agenda that is supported by the vast majority of the American people.”

    Sanders conceded that Trump won by appealing to “a lot of angst and anxiety and unhappiness in America in terms of what’s happening to working families”.

    Asked if he could have beaten Trump, Sanders said it was impossible to tell. “There are polls out that suggest that, but the answer is you don’t know. I would love to have had the opportunity. But remember, Hillary Clinton ended up in the election with more votes than Donald Trump. Could I have done better? Maybe. Maybe not.”

    He added: “He goes into the White House as the least popular presidential candidate in American history. His unfavourable ratings were off the charts. I know beyond any doubt that many millions of people voted for him, despite their dislike of much of what he had to say about minorities, or women, or many other issues. The reason that he won is that he’s a very good performer, he is a professional television performer. He knows his audience pretty well.”

    Sanders ended the interview with this rallying cry: “Trump’s agenda is a minority agenda, not supported by most people. Our job is to mobilise and educate and to fight back at every instance.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...try-vigorously

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fraxinus View Post
    "Asked if he could have beaten Trump, Sanders said it was impossible to tell. “There are polls out that suggest that, but the answer is you don’t know. I would love to have had the opportunity. But remember, Hillary Clinton ended up in the election with more votes than Donald Trump. Could I have done better? Maybe. Maybe not.”"
    There's shades of Grandpa Simpson about that quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc View Post
    There's shades of Grandpa Simpson about that quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fraxinus View Post
    While the wealthy HRC supporters above make their plans behind closed doors Bernie Sanders is calling for mass mobilisation of ordinary people against Trump.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...try-vigorously
    Would have more credibiity if he had not handed over his vote to Hilary. The idea that alternative candidates should not stand against the likes of Clinton should surely be dead at this stage, when they can't win even with 'alternative' support ?

    Street protests against an election result ? I can't see it helping.

    It would be worth putting effort into rebuilding independent Trade Unions I think.
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    The US's first monarchy ?

    3. The Trump Organization isn’t being put into a blind trust. Instead, it will be managed by Trump's three oldest children -- who are also helping oversee the transition.
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    The US's first monarchy ?
    THE NEW WARRIOR KING

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Would have more credibiity if he had not handed over his vote to Hilary. The idea that alternative candidates should not stand against the likes of Clinton should surely be dead at this stage, when they can't win even with 'alternative' support ?

    Street protests against an election result ? I can't see it helping.

    It would be worth putting effort into rebuilding independent Trade Unions I think.
    I see what you're saying but realistically, and I know this sounds very pessimestic, how can unions ever get rebuilt in the US? I get the impression you won't be long in your job if you sign up to a union, and the workplace in the States is a ruthless place and people have far too much to lose to jeopardise their jobs.

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