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    Not able to open the links. Is anyone else getting any luck with this ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Not able to open the links. Is anyone else getting any luck with this ?
    They were working earlier but not now, strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    They were working earlier but not now, strange.
    Possibly just too many hits, not much hosting.

    it is very sad this young woman has died.

    Looking at UK websites, the remainers are blaming Brexit, and blaming the Tories, and Brexiteers are saying the army should be sent in.

    In contrast there was cross party adhesion on this in Ireland with the coincidence with the Good Friday Agreement anniversary meaning that party heads from the North and some from the Republic assembled together in Belfast.

    Saoradh's statement reportedly unapologetic also reportedly went down very badly.

    Police went in to raid houses expecting to find weapons. One has to assume that this organisation as others is full of police.

    Saoradh's march planned for Monday has been called off.
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    Difficult to avoid mentioning Brexit in the context of this appalling event.

    Condolences to her partner and family. Thoroughly counterproductive for the cause of Irish unity. I was not familiar with her work but she was as far as I can gather a progressive (not that the murder would have been justified if she was a reactionary of course).
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    Very sad.

    Absolutely brainless and stupid whoever decided to start firing the weapon. I was listening to Eamonn McCann earlier who said that even militant Republicans were critical of firing a gun indiscriminately.

    Saoradh blaming police searches just doesn't cut it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fraxinus View Post
    Very sad.

    Absolutely brainless and stupid whoever decided to start firing the weapon. I was listening to Eamonn McCann earlier who said that even militant Republicans were critical of firing a gun indiscriminately.

    Saoradh blaming police searches just doesn't cut it.
    An event like this presses so many buttons, causes so much grief.

    Saoradh seems to have moved their Monday march to Dublin Saturday.

    Self-styled “revolutionary party” Saoradh, which paraded in paramilitary style through Dublin on Saturday, said “if republicans were involved” in the killing of journalist Lyra McKee in Derry on Thursday night, “then the IRA should apologise”.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...blin-1.3867379

    Two men in their late teens held for questioning.

    It's a tangled web.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    An event like this presses so many buttons, causes so much grief.

    Saoradh seems to have moved their Monday march to Dublin Saturday.

    Self-styled “revolutionary party” Saoradh, which paraded in paramilitary style through Dublin on Saturday, said “if republicans were involved” in the killing of journalist Lyra McKee in Derry on Thursday night, “then the IRA should apologise”.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...blin-1.3867379

    Two men in their late teens held for questioning.

    It's a tangled web.
    Saoradh did initially show some promise, but their commentary is weighed down with references to "crown forces" which demonstrates a decided lack of sophistication in their thinking.

    As an aside, the more experienced journalist hacks should pull their less seasoned colleagues aside and bring them up to speed on what to do in events like this and underline the dangers of being beside police landrovers.

    I have heard that some international media where following some anti GFA republicans around as they prepared for their Easter commemorations and I believe that the rioting and gun attack were brought about for their benefit.

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    On the day Islamofascists murder hundreds, Saoradh still thinks the true enemy is anyone who speaks English with a different accent to them. Nutters.
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    Lots of kite flying and commentary in the media around banning republican/protest marches.

    This needs to be roundly opposed by all.

    In any case, I was always of the opinion that the gardai liked to observe these matches as they can photograph everyone.

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    In relation to your last sentence, that would be my impression, AGS would probably oppose a ban on the marches as they use them to keep an eye on them.


    In relation to your overall point of view, are you consistent in this, do you support freedom of speech for Nazis for example? White power marches and the like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist View Post
    In relation to your last sentence, that would be my impression, AGS would probably oppose a ban on the marches as they use them to keep an eye on them.


    In relation to your overall point of view, are you consistent in this, do you support freedom of speech for Nazis for example? White power marches and the like?
    They are comparable to a 1916 commemoration? Or a Bodenstown march?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    They are comparable to a 1916 commemoration? Or a Bodenstown march?
    I note you don't want to answer the question. Do you favour banning white power/white nationalist/EDL or for that matter Loyalist marches?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist View Post
    I note you don't want to answer the question. Do you favour banning white power/white nationalist/EDL or for that matter Loyalist marches?

    Stopping fascists from marching is actually a defence of the right to assemble/march. It's entirely consistent to beat Nazis off the streets and support the right of Republicans to march.


    Meanwhile Gary Donnelly has topped the poll in the Ward that includes Creggan.
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    Creggan election results. Gary Donnelly is a 'former spokesman for the 32 County Sovereignty Movement".

    Two PBP candidates including McCann elected in Derry and Sinn Fein badly knocked in Derry.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/poli...poll-1.3881478

    The narrative spouted on RTE and other outlets in the Republic has little to do with reality these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    Stopping fascists from marching is actually a defence of the right to assemble/march. It's entirely consistent to beat Nazis off the streets and support the right of Republicans to march.


    Meanwhile Gary Donnelly has topped the poll in the Ward that includes Creggan.

    Donnelly topping the poll is proof of the disaffection that's out there.
    "If you go far enough to either extreme of the political spectrum, Communist or fascist, you'll find hard-eyed men with guns who believe that anybody who doesn't think as they do should be incarcerated or exterminated. " - Jim Garrison, Former DA, New Orleans.

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