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    A Turkish friend believes its a fake coup arranged by Erdogan to strength his position. Hmm.

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    The Communist Party is calling on our people to organize in the Party's ranks against the enemies of the people and humanity.
    The liberation is in our own hands.

    We do not have all the details of what happened during the coup attempt that took place in Turkey in the hours between July 15 and July 16.

    However, we know very well that plans that are supported by foreign forces, that do not take its power from the working class can not defeat AKP darkness and solve Turkey's problems.

    The events of today reminded us the following reality once again: Either the people of Turkey will organize and get rid of AKP or AKP's reactionary policies will intensify, repression will increase, massacres, the plunder and theft will continue.

    The only power that can overthrow AKP is the people's power, there is no alternative to it.

    AKP is responsible for all that took place tonight. All the factors that led to the current situation and the conditions are the product of AKP's rule and the domestic and foreign bosses that support AKP.
    However, the fact that the main responsible party is AKP does not mean that the coup attempt was one that was orchestrated by Erdogan himself in order to achieve his objectives such as paving the path to an executive presidency or clearing the obstacles facing the new constitution.

    The tension and the rivalries between different groups within the state and the armed forces that have been known to exist for a while have turned into armed conflict. While the tension between these forces is real, it is a lie that any of the sides in this conflict represent the interests of the people. Following this, searching for the solution against AKP's rule in a military coup is as wrong as lending any support to AKP under the guise of taking a position against military coups for whatever reason. The last thing that should be done in the name of supporting freedom and human rights in Turkey is to lend support to AKP which has proven over and over that it is an enemy of humanity.

    While they have not orchestrated this coup, Erdoğan and AKP will make an effort to use the resulting conditions and the support they received as means to increase their legitimacy. Our people should be on the alert against steps that AKP will be certain to take in the days to come. Raising the struggle against AKP and its darkness is the only way to stop this failed coup attempt resulting in AKP's solidifying its rule and turning into a tool for transforming AKP's unstable Turkey into stability. The fact that all mosques in Turkey have broadcasted continuous Erdoğan propaganda the whole night is a concrete indication of the urgency of our task at hand.

    The Communist Party is calling on our people to organize in the Party's ranks against the enemies of the people and humanity.

    The liberation is in our own hands.

    Communist Party, Turkey

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    Erdogan is still in power. 161 people dead, overnight, including 19 policemen, and over 1000 soldiers under arrest, mostly having given up their arms.
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyJoe View Post
    A Turkish friend believes its a fake coup arranged by Erdogan to strength his position. Hmm.
    Not the only one.

    A number of people have noted that no top army command were visibly involved in this.

    It was poorly organised, few tanks, and threw in the towel very quickly.

    Erdogan is now arresting judges and whoever else he pleases by the 100s.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...rests-hundreds

    At the same time, the Kurdish east of the country has virtually been let go, very little sign of Turkish control.
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
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    Also pushing to bring back the death penalty for those involved and to "cleanse" the army.

    Very strange altogether. I'm not one to indulge in conspiracy theories but a few things seem very odd:

    1. The president was abroad, surely it would make sense to capture and/or kill him?

    2. Troop movements seemed to consist of a small number of tanks at the bridges and the airports which were easily subdued by unarmed crowds, with one left clear then for the president to make a triumphant return. Also a handful of jets and at least one helicopter.

    3. The state channel was briefly taken over (and shut down) but the private stations were completely left alone... bad planning again. The coup plotters did not try to get any message out besides their initial statement.

    It seems to have been very half arsed. Erdogan will soon have himself installed as an outright dictator at this stage, and Turkey will slide yet further into the grips of radical Islam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post

    It seems to have been very half arsed. Erdogan will soon have himself installed as an outright dictator at this stage, and Turkey will slide yet further into the grips of radical Islam.
    Yep. Erdogan has claimed Allah protected him and it was a blessing. I think we can see how this particular movie is likely to end.
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    Erdogan says that the New Year's Eve Instanbul night club attack is part of an attempt to destabilise Turkey, but did not name names. There have been thousands of arrests in Turkey since the coup attempt. Journalists and judges have been rounded up and jailed. Erdogan is digging in and going the Strong Leader route. It seems likely that there has been real pressure put on Turkey and Erdogan, as well as some possible false flag bombings blamed on the Kurds. His choices appear to be to let a large part of oil-producing Turkey become Kurdish territory (and get voted out) or realign as an Assad-style hard man attempting to beat off destabilisation and heaves.

    http://english.almanar.com.lb/152535

    Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said Sunday that Turkey would fight to the end against all forms of attack by terror groups and their backers after a gunman killed 39 people in a shooting spree at an Istanbul nightclub.

    “As a nation, we will fight to the end against not just the armed attacks of terror groups and the forces behind them, but also against their economic, political and social attacks,” Erdogan said in a written statement.
    “They are trying to create chaos, demoralize our people, and destabilize our country with abominable attacks which target civilians … We will retain our cool-headedness as a nation, standing more closely together, and we will never give ground to such dirty games,” he said.
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
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    I note that Turkey does not have a dedicated "politics" thread.

    This is not good news.

    Erdogan Holds Narrow Lead as Turkish Vote Counting Nears CloseBloomberg
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    As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the best information.

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    Yes he did. Is this a Brexit like last sting from the dying wasps in winter - after all the largest cities all voted no just as , in the UK , they voted Remain? Or will there be a generation of Franco style autocracy. If the latter we could see some kind of exodus from Turkey. The best and brightest will not waste their lives.

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    (... the tyranny of the majority ...)

    people returning to their most basic, primal instincts

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