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    Default A game of musical chairs between FF and FG

    Watched Byrne live last night as Bruton was exposed to his hypocrisy and FG failures as well. He looked shocked at a lady named Erika cos of how it has affected her. She isn't the only one out there as there are thousands of them out there in similiar positions as her.

    He along with FGers live in their own world of bubble and a far more insulated and buffered from budgetary affects.

    She made a very good point that austerity continued over a period of eight years with FFG at govt that time. They took in turns to implement their own brand of savage hardship cuts.

    Hence a game of musical chairs. FF and FG same political aims but different idealogies.

    In teems of idealogy, it's SF more suited to FF than FG. Obessession over power may take over everything all else. They FFG are hugely power hungry and they will do anything to get into any power at all costs at the expense of the voters.

    Same applied to directorships after elections to ensure ex TD'S were well looked after. FG or FF took care to ensure that FF or FG directors not outed.

    In another words, FFG worked together in tandem in and outside the political scene. SO much BS re civil war politics.

    FF had the electorate hoodwinked. The electorate should have voted differently according to their past political dwcisions NOT their cheap ever changeable words.


    Have a look at Taft's anslysis which was depressing re election statistics that FFG hadn't fallen much. Comparision of 2011 and 2016.

    Link:http://notesonthefront.typepad.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by disability student View Post
    Watched Byrne live last night as Bruton was exposed to his hypocrisy and FG failures as well. He looked shocked at a lady named Erika cos of how it has affected her. She isn't the only one out there as there are thousands of them out there in similiar positions as her.

    He along with FGers live in their own world of bubble and a far more insulated and buffered from budgetary affects.

    She made a very good point that austerity continued over a period of eight years with FFG at govt that time. They took in turns to implement their own brand of savage hardship cuts.

    Hence a game of musical chairs. FF and FG same political aims but different idealogies.

    In teems of idealogy, it's SF more suited to FF than FG. Obessession over power may take over everything all else. They FFG are hugely power hungry and they will do anything to get into any power at all costs at the expense of the voters.

    Same applied to directorships after elections to ensure ex TD'S were well looked after. FG or FF took care to ensure that FF or FG directors not outed.

    In another words, FFG worked together in tandem in and outside the political scene. SO much BS re civil war politics.

    FF had the electorate hoodwinked. The electorate should have voted differently according to their past political dwcisions NOT their cheap ever changeable words.


    Have a look at Taft's anslysis which was depressing re election statistics that FFG hadn't fallen much. Comparision of 2011 and 2016.

    Link:http://notesonthefront.typepad.com/
    Good post. A bit of realism is needed.
    Progressive parties and independents put in a credible performance. However, the breakthrough that many were hoping for (including me) didn’t come. Sinn Fein increased their popular vote by 3.9 percentage points with the AAA-PbP increasing by 1.5 percentage points. Combined, these two parties look set to gain 13 seats at the time of this writing – positive but about half the Fianna Fail increase. The Social Democrats took three percent but couldn’t increase on their outgoing total while the Greens are back in parliament with two seats. However, the number of progressive independent TDs doesn’t appear to be increasing of this writing
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
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    Default Re: A game of musical chairs between FF and FG

    A lot of FG votes went to FF and LAB votes went to an assortment of IND'S plus SF.

    The implication re musical chairs was that voters out there don't want to change it. Hence the status quo. Hence their voting transfers. FFG are quite happy with this arrangement as FF or FG wait for them to trip up again with mega doses of 'all is forgotten and come back ' coming from the electorate.

    What is certain is that if statu quo such as FFG return in power in nexr few weeks, hardship cuts will continue as nornal except for water charges. Then i start considering my option to emigrate. It's not worth it and bills start rising as savings get dwindled in the long run.

    Also getting a job for any person with disabilities out there is v v difficult.That was due to an extra cost/burden to any employer/s in question.

    That's why they won't take people with disabilities even with a degree on board due to extra cost plus insurance firms not willing to cover which was outraegous. One main fact was that thee is no real law on employment and disability. Employment law here is a sham as they don't cover disabilities. So employers can get away with it.

    Yellow pack jobs was/is unacceptable in my view, just look at nurses and teachers gone as their unions were bought by FFG govt.

    Tell that to their parents if they REALLY want to CHANGE then it's high time to stop voting for FF AND FG too.

    If the electorate WANT meaningful change badly then STOP giving votes to FFFG. It seemed to me that voters hadn't copped it on and let it lie in GE 2016.

    If you voters really want to change it as you will have to change your voting mindset.

    Another problem had emerged was that some of the left parties including SD placed fewer candidates thus limiting theit impact. Thus voters options were limited as well.Also they should have gone for broke and see what happens.

    FFG start their panic stations when any new political parties get ahead of them and have their foot at the door. Then change will come as that door get wider. That said, it's easier for any new prospective parties get a foothold afterwards.

    Also they would need a leg up from an independent media to give their own narrative as opposed to status quo's narrative as well.
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    Default Re: A game of musical chairs between FF and FG

    They have been playing musical chairs since the State was founded

    Taking turns at filling their pockets while the State progressed almost by accident
    Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other. ~Oscar Ameringer

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