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    Businesses on Brexit

    Brexit is unsurprisingly cropping up in a string of earnings statements. On Wednesday alone:

    • Grocer J Sainsbury said it’s cutting costs in an effort to avoid raising prices as a result of a falling pound
    • Broadcaster ITV shook up its executive ranks amid a Brexit-derived advertising slowdown
    • Software company Sage Group flagged the U.K.’s withdrawal from the EU as a risk to hiring
    • Tim Martin, chairman of pubs chain JD Wetherspoon, attacked the business lobby for its position on Brexit
    • The oil and gas lobby wrote to May asking her to guarantee access to markets and labor in the Brexit talks


    In a boon for business, the Institute for Government said the U.K. may have to accept free movement of workers from the EU for years beyond Brexit.


    Bloomberg’s Jill Ward writes on Thursday how services, rather than manufacturers, have the most to worry about with Brexit given the hurdles it could pose to their trade with the European market.
    Still, nobody seems to have told Europe’s power industry about the breakup. There are at least 12 projects worth more than €10 billion combined in the works to expand the island nation’s connection to the surplus generating capacity on the continent.
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    First insights into Brexit negotiation choreography: Several EU diplomats believe formal Brexit talks should be conducted in “rigorous four-week cycles, in Brussels,” with progress published monthly. Playbook’s Commission source said the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier proposed the following monthly negotiation cycle:


    Week 1: Preparation with EU27 and the other EU institutions.


    Week 2: Exchange of papers with the U.K.; if needed, preparation and finalization of negotiating position with EU27 and other EU institutions.


    Week 3: Negotiations at chief negotiators’ level and in technical groups.


    Week 4: Reporting to EU27 and other EU institutions; start of preparations for the next round of negotiations.


    Jacopo Barigazzi and David Herszenhorn have the full details, including that the talks may be held in the Albert Borschette Congress Center or the Berlaymont, and that Brussels will insist London pick up every last centime (or make it pence) of the cost of the whole exercise. Final approval of the format will come after the British election in June.


    Tony Blair to participate in the EPP group meeting in Ireland next week: No word yet on whether the party will thrust a membership form Blair’s way.


    Norway to be in the loop: The EU reassured Norwegian Prime Minister Erna Solberg on Thursdaythat her country will be able to provide input during Brexit talks. Solberg, speaking during a press conference with European Council President Donald Tusk on Thursday, said she is happy “there will be an open door for Norway to deliver our views into the process … When negotiations become closer and tougher it’s also important to have that little toe inside to see what is happening.

    Gina Miller’s daily death threats: Life after the court case that forced Britain’s parliament to vote on triggering Article 50. Irish Times.


    Brussels wants to reclaim euro clearing from the City of London. As previously flagged in Playbook, the Commission confirmed the move Thursday.


    Citizens’ rights study: The European Parliament research service published a handy (but dense) guide on EU citizens’ rights.
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    Theresa May’s and England’s Miscalculations on Brexit

    Why Germany’s Angela Merkel felt compelled to end the Tories’ delusions | By Stephan Richter, Berlin

    Read on The Guardian | Over 4000 comments
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    Richter has form, a bit of a German apologist. However, he hits some nerve endings.

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    Heavy sarcasm on the Times letter page.

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    The shires won't waver. Even without EU money they are well off. Pity the poor Welsh sheep farmers and the Scots.

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    A "leak"


    Just 10 days before the general election, the EU published two documents that will affect every person living in Britain for years to come. Despite being dropped into the maelstrom of an election caused by Brexit, there was hardly a murmur.

    The documents were the most detailed positions yet from the EU’s chief negotiator, Michel Barnier, on the upcoming divorce talks with the UK.

    In two policy papers, the bloc has elaborated its stance on the Brexit bill and citizens’ rights.


    The 10-page paper on the bill does not put a price on the divorce, but sets out in painstaking detail all EU bodies with a vested interest in the spoils – 40 agencies, eight joint projects on new technologies and a panoply of funds agreed by all countries, from aid for refugees in Turkey to supporting peace in Colombia.

    No detail is too small. Britain is even on the hook for funding teachers at the elite European schools that educate EU civil servants’ children.

    On citizens’ rights, the EU spells out in greater detail the protections it wants to secure for nearly 5 million people on the wrong side of Brexit – 3.5 million EU nationals in the UK and 1.2 million Britons on the continent.

    In a red rag to hardline Brexiters, the document stresses the European court of justice (ECJ) must have full jurisdiction for ruling on disputes about citizens’ rights, while the European commission ought to have full powers for monitoring whether the UK is upholding the bargain.
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...d-eu-documents
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    No, quite deliberate. they docs are here -

    https://ec.europa.eu/commission/publ...egotiations_en

    Official EU site.

    Interesting,in my experience. publication of the basis of negotiation is unusual. Barnier, Junker et al are pissed at the UK. The only friend the UK has is us, our craven, lazy, reaction to the possibility of Larry Goodman being affected, supports the UK. OTOH, Larry, the cute hoor, will move his burger production across the border.

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    https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbi...ce=54&refid=13

    Brexit has certainly lit a border poll fuse.
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    Interesting, so, nothing has changed since the daya of Carson.

    I'd be interested in the figure for those who said "no religion" - or is that not an option in NI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrym View Post
    Interesting, so, nothing has changed since the days of Carson.
    No way would you have had one in four Protestants agreeing that there should be a referendum on the issue back then (if there were such things as polls back then).

    Quote Originally Posted by barrym View Post
    I'd be interested in the figure for those who said "no religion" - or is that not an option in NI?
    ? It's the third graph from the top down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist View Post
    ? It's the third graph from the top down.
    I mean the actual number of people, tongue in cheek....

    Anyway with DUP in what they see as the jockey seat, what will they do for Brexit? The farming community will be the tail wagging the dog?

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    Fintan O'Toole had a story in yesterday's Times that the D.U.P. took nearly half a billion euro in Saudi money which was spent on a glossy Brexit brochure given out free in London with Metro free journal 2 days before the Brexit vote.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/wh...ince-1.3083586

    A former head of Saudi intelligence was involved. Given the Saudi history of acting as bagmen for the US, the question must at least be asked whether there was a US connection behind that. Or just the Saudis on a solo run.

    Is it the Sauds or the US or both who are interest in breaking up the EU ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Fintan O'Toole had a story in yesterday's Times that the D.U.P. took nearly half a billion euro in Saudi money which was spent on a glossy Brexit brochure given out free in London with Metro free journal 2 days before the Brexit vote.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/wh...ince-1.3083586

    A former head of Saudi intelligence was involved. Given the Saudi history of acting as bagmen for the US, the question must at least be asked whether there was a US connection behind that. Or just the Saudis on a solo run.

    Is it the Sauds or the US or both who are interest in breaking up the EU ?
    Which US would be the question. Obama was somewhat in love with Merkel's EU but as we've seen with the CIA/FBI turf war backed type Presidential candidates, what you see on the surface is just window dressing for powerful interests behind the scenes.

    Trump has been pressured to tow the anti-Russia line to some degree and deep US foreign policy seems to come from the state organisations rather than from the political parties.

    Plus the Saudis do what the Saudis want to do, it would be interesting to understand why they'd seek to weaken the EU. I suppose the Saudis do not want any power block expanding its reach ( however limited) into their region.

    There's a lot of shady Actors running similar to Monroe Doctrine type interference in the world at the moment.

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