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    Default Is the First Minister [Peter Robinson] above the law.

    Came across this and thought it one to watch as it develops as it involves an important issue that affects us all. Parliamentary Privilege allows politicians to basically say what they like about someone and not produce a shred of evidence. Damn the consequence is the attitude.

    A complaint has been made against Peter Robinson by a business man described by Robinson as ''linked to IRA dirty money.''

    A subsequent court case found the victim of this slur, Mr. Peter Curistan entirely innocent in 2008. Robinson sullied the good mans name in 2006.

    Quote.. Mr Curistan, the developer behind the city's Odyssey complex, denied this and in a court case involving the government in 2008, a High Court judge said he was "entirely innocent" of the allegation.
    Mr Curistan says the consequences for his businesses have been enormous.

    He recently engaged firm KRW Law who took advice from Eugene Grant QC, a former chairman of the Northern Ireland Bar Council.
    Mr Curistan's legal team claim parliamentary privilege does not extend to an allegation of a criminal offence and there are no issues around statute of limitations.
    In a statement, Mr Curistan's lawyers said: "Our client now insists the police diligently and expeditiously investigate his allegations and, most importantly, interview the first minister.
    "It is our client's fervent belief that sufficient evidence exists that Mr Robinson should be investigated, interviewed and prosecuted on the basis of the complaint." unquote.

    In typical fashion Peter Robinson issued a statement saying... ''"The police may have to waste their time with this but I do not."''

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-34732996

    Robinson has never produced evidence nor apologised.
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    Interesting, especially in the context of the murky dealings involving Cerberus and Project Eagle. Curistan is continuing a long running legal battle with the former Anglo.

    Belfast property developer Peter Curistan is alleging fraud as part of a renewed legal action against the former Anglo Irish Bank, the Belfast High Court heard today.The businessman, who built the Odyssey entertainment complex in the city, is also suing for breach of duty and negligence over the process to find a buyer for his long-term lease on the venue.
    Mr Curistan has re-ignited his case against the bank, which is now known as the Irish Bank Resolution Corporation, after securing the right to issue proceedings personally.
    Mr Curistan, who has also been awarded an honorary doctorate from Queen’s University, Belfast and served as a Harbour Commissioner in the city, has now re-launched his case against Anglo.Papers lodged in the case focus on claims around how the bank identified one of its clients as a potential purchaser for the leases around in 2008-09.
    It is alleged that the management of the process amounted to a “shadow directorship”.
    Other, better placed potential purchasers were ignored, according to the case against the bank.
    New allegations of fraud are understood to have been advanced following advice from senior counsel.
    In court today a barrister for the defendant questioned whether Mr Curistan can now amend his writ to include such claims.
    Adrian Colmer said: “There’s a very serious new allegation and I would ask for eight weeks to allow us to respond.”
    Mr Justice Weatherup agreed to adjourn the case for a further review in June.
    However, he also directed that any objection to the fraud claim should be formalised before the end of this month.
    Outside court Mr Curistan said he was pleased that his action was now up and running.
    He added: “The allegations being made against Anglo Irish Bank, now IBRC in special liquidation, are extremely serious.
    “They go to the heart of the bank’s behaviour over a considerable period of time, and need to be fully investigated through the legal process which is now underway.”
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    Some very serious allegations on Bryson's blog today regarding Peter Robinson, Curistan and Frank Cushnahan.

    https://jamiebrysonblog.wordpress.co...eter-curistan/

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    Parliamentary privilege is a very necessary thing, even if the innocent get burned by it.

    Despite his bravado Robinson is now beginning to look seriously holed below the water line and it would be very interesting to know who has been feeding Bryson his lines and who in his own party is going to finally force him to walk the plank.

    It will be even more interesting to see if the authorities half investigate the goings on and sweep it under the carpet or whether they go for him. Carpet is odds on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaadi View Post
    Parliamentary privilege is a very necessary thing, even if the innocent get burned by it.

    Despite his bravado Robinson is now beginning to look seriously holed below the water line and it would be very interesting to know who has been feeding Bryson his lines and who in his own party is going to finally force him to walk the plank.

    It will be even more interesting to see if the authorities half investigate the goings on and sweep it under the carpet or whether they go for him. Carpet is odds on.
    Parliamentary privilege is one thing Shaadi but "misfeasance in public office" is another.

    Quote. Mr Curistan's legal team claim parliamentary privilege does not extend to an allegation of a criminal offence and there are no issues around statute of limitations. unquote. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-34732996

    If Bryson can be believed then Robinson might have some explaining to do about his conspiracy with Cushnahan in recordings to ruin a man with wild and dangerous allegations of severe criminality.

    Assuming the tapes exist, then Robinson can't rightly hide behind Parliamentary privilege were he does'nt have to name ''sources'' to anyone. That loophole is closed if he's caught on tape as the origins of the slur.

    The legal firm said to hold the tapes is'nt likely to allow matters to be swept under. Wonder did they forward a copy of the tape with the complaint?

    Inglorious on the part of Robinson.
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    I advise caution.


    'Ruined lives'

    Mr Robinson said that the allegations of a cover-up "need to be investigated".

    "There are questions that have to be answered," he said.

    "Because at the bottom of all this, and I've met some of the individuals concerned, we're talking about young boys who were put into the care of the state and we are now being told that there were agencies of the state who were aware of it and did nothing.

    "That is the most serious allegation that can be made, particularly when you see just how much it has ruined the lives of so many people."

    The first minister said he had written to the prime minister about a full investigation into Kincora.

    The extent to which there is an avoidance of that kind of thorough investigation adds at least circumstantially to the case that there is something to hide.
    Peter Robinson, Northern Ireland First Minister

    "I hope to see him over the weekend at some events. Again, I will prompt him on the issue because I think it is one that is important, that the prime minister of our country gives a very clear steer that something has to be done."

    Mr Robinson said any investigation would require full access to information from intelligence agencies.

    "I think there has to be complete freedom on the part of those who want to give evidence to be able to do so.

    "I don't think anybody is asking them to divulge national secrets, but this is a national scandal that needs to be dealt with and I trust that whatever steps are taken to ensure that the truth comes out are taken."
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-28613042

    Why is Robinson being attacked at this point?

    Qui bono?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist View Post
    Why is Robinson being attacked at this point?

    Qui bono?
    There's ''tit for tat'' attacks happening continually in the North and Robinson is no stranger to chucking the dirt and using his position to direct political arrests.

    In this instance he is being brought to book because it is alleged he himself acted outside the law to ruin an innocent business man. That points to corruption and i doubt very much if it is in any way connected to his call for disclosure of sensitive information or an inquiry into Kincora.

    Robinson and his party remained silent on the issue for long when so many others were shouting loudest about it, probably due to the fact it was his political opponents doing the shouting about it. Robinson is saying nothing that has'nt already been said by others.

    You'll note at your link he clarifies that ''"I don't think anybody is asking them to divulge national secrets.'' and speaks of their being a ''prima facie'' case to answer.

    Well, upon oath we are sworn to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. There can be no allowance for ''State Secrets'' to remain as such were there is a ''National Scandal'' involving the abuse of the most vulnerable in society and the addition of insult to injury by way of a cover up.
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