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    Peter O'Loughlin stood as an"Identity Ireland" candidate for election in the Carlow Kilkenny By Election 2015 on an openly racist platform of deportation of immigrants and asylum seekers. It was only a matter of time, given the economic crisis, that we got our home grown attempt at a Golden Dawn outfit.

    O'Loughlin seems to have been given a free pass by the media, and by other candidates, as I can't find any record of his stance being criticised. His political outpourings amount to incitement to racial hatred.

    http://identityireland.org/about/

    He was supported by Michael McGrath, a longstanding racist activist based in Kilkenny, who produces Kilkenny Journal website.

    http://www.kilkennyjournal.ie/news

    https://www.facebook.com/KilkennyJournal

    PETER THANKS HIS VOTERS IN CARLOW & KILKENNY.
    Identity Ireland dipped their toe into the election pool for the very first time in their short history this weekend. Peter O' Loughlin the new party's co- founder, stood in the Carlow Kilkenny by-election and came home with 930 first preference votes.
    There was no major disappointment as this was always a trial run for Ireland's newest party only founded a couple of months and not yet officially launched.
    A lot of positives were also taken by the amount of 2nd and 3rd preferences he was given according to members at the count centre. It goes to show that a couple of thousand constituents here in Kilkenny and Carlow support Identity Ireland who were virtually unknown going into this election. With the right planning this vote could definitely be increased in next year's general election.
    Peter was invited into the constituency to stand for the new Identity Ireland party. He lives in Rochestown, Cork, and is from Carlow Town originally. . He's a 30-year-old primary teacher, musician and composer. He says philosophically that time is on his side, time to get elected and save Ireland from the miseries of mass immigration and multiculturalism.
    McGrath describes O'Loughlin as a "co-founder" of Identity Ireland which was started a few months ago.

    A meeting of II in Dublin was closed by the Gardai after heckling by Anti Racism Ireland Network members.

    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/iri...n-meeting.html
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    There was a party back in the 40s/50s called something like Ailtéiri na hAseiri ( sorry it's just off the top of my head) - had about 10 members. Mainly anti Semitic I think. It is mentioned in Hugo Hamiltons' book The Speckled People. His dad was involved for a bit much to his mum's disapproval.

    It is awful how these nuts - and racists as far afield as the USA and Canada - have tried to appropriate old Celtic symbols like the Celtic Cross and the Cross of Bríd. Thankfully, nearly all the Gaeilgeoirí I meet seem to be very liberal and open types.

    Ironies abound, for example the racist graffiti in Dublin lately included a cross within a circle. This symbol was first used by the British Movement ( BM). Needless to say the old BM skinheads would beat the crap out of any Irish people who strayed into their manor!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donal Og View Post
    There was a party back in the 40s/50s called something like Ailtéiri na hAseiri ( sorry it's just off the top of my head) - had about 10 members. Mainly anti Semitic I think. It is mentioned in Hugo Hamiltons' book The Speckled People. His dad was involved for a bit much to his mum's disapproval.

    It is awful how these nuts - and racists as far afield as the USA and Canada - have tried to appropriate old Celtic symbols like the Celtic Cross and the Cross of Bríd. Thankfully, nearly all the Gaeilgeoirí I meet seem to be very liberal and open types.

    Ironies abound, for example the racist graffiti in Dublin lately included a cross within a circle. This symbol was first used by the British Movement ( BM). Needless to say the old BM skinheads would beat the crap out of any Irish people who strayed into their manor!
    There's a thread on Ailtirí na hAiséirghe, they were a 40s outfit, fascism was all the rage internationally back in the 30s and 40s. Ernest Blyhte the CNG Minister who took the shilling off the pensioners was up to his neck in founding it and forming its political ideology.
    http://www.politicalworld.org/showth...d#.VWSfzlLW44U



    No democrat was that chap.

    In 1930 he wondered aloud whether "the gods of democracy have not feet of clay...the franchise in the hands of an ignorant and foolish populace is a menace to the country".[
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Blythe


    Ailtirí na hAiséirghe.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ailtir%...Ais%C3%A9irghe

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    Michael McGrath constantly posts various racist and homophobic content on his site and on facebook. There's no point challenging what he posts as he deletes it but it's frightening how much of a social media reach he has. The Kilkenny Journal used to be a reputable publication many years ago, this is why I think so many people have "liked" the page.

    McGrath has a colorful history, he fancies himself a druid;
    Ireland’s druids needed Garda protection during their winter solstice celebrations after a series of death threats against their leader from a rival. Archdruid Con Connor led a small band of followers outside Newgrange to mark one of the highpoints in the Druid calendar flanked by a Garda squad car. Rival druid leader Michael McGrath, who calls himself the archdruid of Tara has told his supporters to shoot rival Con Connor “on sight”....

    ....Right-wing McGrath who once described Hitler as a “genius”, admitted using websites to call for Connors execution. Last week McGrath used the white supremacist website Stormfront to call on his followers to murder Connor and one of his druids. He said, “between these couple of commie queers, I could commit murder. These are the only two scum that I am interested in. Everybody but everybody knows I hate queers. Shoot him on sight if you see him”.

    The self-styled archdruid of Tara was previously convicted for putting up hate-filled notices about a Garda officer in Kilkenny. McGrath stood for election in 1985 calling for “all non-white doctors” to be kicked out of Kilkenny. He also called for all gay men to be automatically jailed for ten years to stop the spread of AIDS. McGrath also tried to organise a new racist party on a fascist website after the murder of Kilkenny postman Alan Cunniffe.
    Continues: http://www.druidschool.com/site/1030100/page/891943

    He is also a longstanding Nazi.

    He was "Chief Lieutenant" of the (now defunct?) Irish National Socialist Party.

    Here is the text of one of their press releases on one of McGraths favorite topics, gay people. This was read into the record of the Seanad by David Norris in 1988:
    “National Socialist Party: Smash AIDS Blitzkrieg”:
    In Ireland, AIDS is being spread amongst all normal people by the Gay AIDS spreaders and the Junkies. The Government is afraid to tell you the truth. Thousands in Ireland are infected — hundreds of AIDS deaths have been covered up and the number dying will double every six months. Thanks to Queers, Junkies and Negroes visiting here, all of you are now at risk from the AIDS Black Death, right down to the pregnant women ... and a baby can be born with AIDS!!! Horrific. AIDS is as deadly as nuclear radiation. Help us in the National Socialist Party to break the conspiracy of silence among the knee-jerk liberals in Government. Join us. Act Now. Only we will tell you the truth. Only we will save you and your family from this Scourge of God.
    Our “Smash AIDS Blitzkrieg” proposes:


    1. Enforce the Law — ten years for homosexuals;
    2. Enforce stringent AIDS-testing on all immigrants;
    3. Intern all junkies, pushers etc., as Enemies of the People;
    4. Daily testing of the Blood Bank for the AIDS virus;
    5. Suspect Discos, Gay Bars, clubs, etc., to be burned down;
    6. Execution of deliberate AIDS spreaders.



    We were (and are) the first to commence a smash AIDS blitz. We will shortly issue a Guide on AIDS — the Real truth, not politicians' lies! We will tell you how to protect yourself, family, friends. For this, the National Socialist Party requires volunteers, funds, help!



    Contact immediately — most urgent — SAE to:


    Michael J. McGrath,
    Chief Lieutenant,
    National Socialist Party,
    18 Dominic Street,
    KilkennyCity.
    http://debates.oireachtas.ie/seanad/.../00009.asp#N83


    McGrath is also a wannabe photographer, O'Loughlin was happy to stand and pose for him, as well as give him numerous quotes for McGrath's online hate rag.

    (Ormonde photography is McGrath)
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    Cass, should the title read "Identity Ireland" rather than Irish Identity?
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    Peter O Loughlin , bit of a Trojan horse? Nice try with the macho stubble though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    Cass, should the title read "Identity Ireland" rather than Irish Identity?

    Thank you. Just as lame, but more accurate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    Michael McGrath constantly posts various racist and homophobic content on his site and on facebook. There's no point challenging what he posts as he deletes it but it's frightening how much of a social media reach he has. The Kilkenny Journal used to be a reputable publication many years ago, this is why I think so many people have "liked" the page.

    McGrath has a colorful history, he fancies himself a druid;


    Continues: http://www.druidschool.com/site/1030100/page/891943

    He is also a longstanding Nazi.

    He was "Chief Lieutenant" of the (now defunct?) Irish National Socialist Party.

    Here is the text of one of their press releases on one of McGraths favorite topics, gay people. This was read into the record of the Seanad by David Norris in 1988:


    http://debates.oireachtas.ie/seanad/.../00009.asp#N83


    McGrath is also a wannabe photographer, O'Loughlin was happy to stand and pose for him, as well as give him numerous quotes for McGrath's online hate rag.

    (Ormonde photography is McGrath)
    This is totally inaccurate. David Norris is in fact a friend of Michael McGrath since it was discovered that this was a counterfeit note thrown in his door back in 1988. They email each other regularly after McGrath supported Norris for President. Michael McGrath has several gay friends in his close circle, in fact he buried his best friend , the well-known gay activist Pearse Fennelly in Kilkenny in recent months. His lifelong friend that he went to school with was Donal Barry the Kilkenny photographer who died of AIDS. Several gay men drank, partied and even slept in McGrath's house and have done so for years. There was the occasion back in 2001 when an American gay man slit McGrath's throat, but his life was saved by the gardai.
    As for the rest of the rubbish here it's all written by McGrath's deadly enemy the so-called "Archdruid of the Dark Moon Grove" Con Connor together with another nut job called Dr. Jim Dwyer who had been in McGrath's close circle but deserted him after falling in love with Connor.

    McGrath has so many black and Asian pals today in Kilkenny that the usual racist charges easily fall flat as well in view of this. He is known to oppose welfare tourism and mass immigration but in favour of immigrants already living and working in Ireland.

    McGrath states that he is neither a Nazi nor a Fascist and that no evidence of this exists, that there is not a single photograph or witness of him being involved in anything like that but that it's all propaganda by political and personal enemies who hate him. And this is true. There is not a scintilla of any such evidence against McGrath. There was some article in some communist magazine way back, some claimed interview with McGrath that he says he never gave.

    The SWP also picked on him and spread leaflets about him during an election he contested back in 1994, but there was no evidence, and citizens actually beat the SWP/ANL out of Kilkenny while McGrath claimed that the SWP are "extreme communists led by ugly women such as Cllr. Brid Smith" , again a personal enemy of his because , he says, his brother Noel rejected her once in Dublin.

    McGrath thus claims that he is a victim of the Left and of spiteful people in Dublin and Kilkenny and states that he loves democracy and fair play but is opposed to communism, extreme socialism along with their espousal of mass immigration that is economically damaging to the country. He says he has no objection to immigrants who can look after themselves but totally opposes welfare tourism which is now hurting our economy badly.
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    Michael McGrath started as a journalist with the original Kilkenny Journal in 1964 after he left school in the CBS , Kilkenny, with seven honours. He was an Executive Officer then for a while in the Department of Local Government ( now Environment), Custom House, Dublin, but left the Civil Service to train as a professional photographer with Oliver, Photographer, High Street studio, Kilkenny. Photographer Oliver Dunphy is still alive, his daughter Maria has taken over the studio . Oliver will confirm that as McGrath and he remain firm friends and fellow photographers over a half a century now. The lies about McGrath here are really ugly! But he does have a lot of hatred and personal spite against him in Kilkenny, particularly from incumbent politicians and their henchmen. He is in fact a fine professional photographer to this day, having his photos published nationally.
    McGrath's dad was Ambulance Controller at St. Luke's Hospital, Kilkenny, he comes from a long standing respected Kilkenny family.
    McGrath then joined the Kilkenny office of the Munster Express as both journalist and Press Photographer. He also worked for the Kilkenny Standard. He is totally independent of all political parties and a member of none. From reading the Kilkenny Journal online that he publishes it would appear that he opposes them all, though all candidates were given good space and coverage by McGrath in the recent by-election.

    He has fallen out with the Green party and their local councillor Malcolm Noonan and he makes no apologies for that. Right now he opposes G.I. Joe Malone of Fianna Fail who is to be made mayor of Kilkenny by a mayoral pact on Monday June 22nd next. They have become bitter enemies as well. McGrath opposes all mayoral pacts in the Kilkenny Journal and wants a much more suitable mayor for his native city.

    But he attracts more and more enemies by the day!

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    This is simply not on. Identity Ireland is NOT a racist party, open or otherwise. As Peter O'Loughlin states himself the party is anti-mass-immigration and opposes welfare tourism.
    But Peter O'Loughlin fought the Carlow-Kilkenny by-election on principally an anti-EU platform, that is not mentioned here at all. He also campaigned to leave the Euro and return to our own currency. He campaigned that he wanted a return of our fisheries and for the revival of the Irish sugar industry in Carlow as well as the promotion of the projected Abbey Creative Quarter for the old brewery site in Kilkenny.

    Your article is a left-wing smear job from start to finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehopper View Post
    This is simply not on. Identity Ireland is NOT a racist party, open or otherwise. As Peter O'Loughlin states himself the party is anti-mass-immigration and opposes welfare tourism.
    But Peter O'Loughlin fought the Carlow-Kilkenny by-election on principally an anti-EU platform, that is not mentioned here at all. He also campaigned to leave the Euro and return to our own currency. He campaigned that he wanted a return of our fisheries and for the revival of the Irish sugar industry in Carlow as well as the promotion of the projected Abbey Creative Quarter for the old brewery site in Kilkenny.

    Your article is a left-wing smear job from start to finish.

    Yes, O'Loughlin is a right wing nationalist, who promotes anti EU sentiment on the basis of that stance.

    We recognise the importance of our history and culture in creating the Irish identity, which serves as a solid foundation for our society. Therefore we are against policies which encourage multiculturalism and ghettoization as these can lead to conflict and division. As such we oppose mass immigration and believe in natural controlled immigration as practiced by most nations worldwide.
    Apart from being plainly racist, this is also nonsensical - if our society is created by history and culture, then it will constantly change and develop, not stay stuck in some imaginary ethnically pure stasis.

    If against both separate ('ghetto' ) and mixed (multicultural) development, what exactly does O'Loughlin want? Fairly plainly, some kind of all white, native born state with no inward migration.

    What is "natural controlled immigration" by the way ?

    McGrath I have judged solely by the vile racist outpourings on his Face Book page and website.
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    Do the right thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehopper View Post
    This is simply not on. Identity Ireland is NOT a racist party, open or otherwise. As Peter O'Loughlin states himself the party is anti-mass-immigration and opposes welfare tourism.
    But Peter O'Loughlin fought the Carlow-Kilkenny by-election on principally an anti-EU platform, that is not mentioned here at all. He also campaigned to leave the Euro and return to our own currency. He campaigned that he wanted a return of our fisheries and for the revival of the Irish sugar industry in Carlow as well as the promotion of the projected Abbey Creative Quarter for the old brewery site in Kilkenny.

    Your article is a left-wing smear job from start to finish.
    But we never ever developed a fishing industry ... and the currency we had before we became a Eurozone country was linked intimately to Sterling. And who do we 'take back' our country from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Yes, O'Loughlin is a right wing nationalist, who promotes anti EU sentiment on the basis of that stance.



    Apart from being plainly racist, this is also nonsensical - if our society is created by history and culture, then it will constantly change and develop, not stay stuck in some imaginary ethnically pure stasis.

    If against both separate ('ghetto' ) and mixed (multicultural) development, what exactly does O'Loughlin want? Fairly plainly, some kind of all white, native born state with no inward migration.

    What is "natural controlled immigration" by the way ?
    There is nothing in what O'Loughlin states thast "is plainly racist" except in your biased imagination, sir.
    You are an unadulterated Trotskyist who should at least declare that to your reraders if you wish to be regarded as an honest man.
    It's cowards who attack genteel people like Peter O'Loughlin who are obviuously unable to defend themselves against attack with lethal weapons, cowards that you speak for!
    Why do you want so much immigration, what drives you, what is your purpose of wanting over a million immigrants into Ireland, what is the economic sense of it all, will it not collapse our frail economy once again - especially in the face of a hard Brexit that is now on the way?
    Do you ever stop virtue signalling for a moment to consider the realities at all?

    McGrath I have judged solely by the vile racist outpourings on his Face Book page and website.
    Quite obviously there is no point in logically trying to discuss this with you any further, it would be a waste of both our times.

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    I have stubble like thousands of others, so I suppose we're all "macho" too?

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