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    Default Re: Sinn Féin Ard Fheis 2015

    Cycling two abreast is much safer. It means you take up about the same space as a car so you dont get idiot drivers trying to overtake when there is not enough space (ending up with the cyclist getting shoved off the road into a ditch)

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    Quote Originally Posted by morticia View Post
    I'm with you on this one, I think. The cycle ways are badly needed. One is 10 times more likely to die in a collision on a pedal bike than in a car, and the mortality rate is soaring owing to that social demographic David McWilliams calls the "MAMILs" (Middle aged men in Lycra), all of whom seem to see it as a complete religious duty to cycle narrow hilly windy roads at top speed, sometimes two abreast. And of course, if a motorist hits them (coming round a bend on the wrong side of the road at top speed on a Sunday morning; I've witnessed this as a pedestrian), it's the motorist's "fault". And the number without lights is something else. At least if they WERE on cycle ways most of the time, they'd be less easy to hit, whatever the speed. Or illumination. Not that all collisions are the cyclists fault, nor are all motorists blameless. But in any altercation between a cyclist and a ton of fast moving metal, doesn't take prizes to guess who's worse off. And exponential increases in traffic volumes on our roads thanks to rising employment ain't helping; those stuck in jams in a hurry are less likely to see that bike....
    There has been a big increase in on-road sports cycling at speed on racing bikes. It is possible that this has led to a change in the type of accidents

    Best things to do on a bike is own the road - the middle of the lane that is. It's when cycles are penned in to gutters and crushed by hgvs that bad things happen.

    Bring urban max speed down to 17 k for all users and we would all be a lot safer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    If there were proper cycle ways there would be far less accidents. People cycling is a good thing, for the environment and for their health. I think there's some aul fellas in cars who are jealous
    Sure but this is Riposte's main concern, so much so that he would utilise his own speech at his party's Ard Fheis, an annual event, to make a song and dance about it?

    Seems a bit mad to me. Nobody would argue against more cycle lanes, but writing speeches on the same seems either parochial, mad or insanely trivial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    There has been a big increase in on-road sports cycling at speed on racing bikes. It is possible that this has led to a change in the type of accidents

    Best things to do on a bike is own the road - the middle of the lane that is. It's when cycles are penned in to gutters and crushed by hgvs that bad things happen.

    Bring urban max speed down to 17 k for all users and we would all be a lot safer.
    It's already 30Km in Dublin.

    How low can you go?

    I'm not a driver but it mustn't be easy to drive below 30KM around a whole city all the time.

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    Two abreast doing 40mph coming down a windy road on a blind corner on the wrong side of the road ain't very safe, sorry. The bikes were tilted at such an angle that I thought they'd come off and hit the walkers on the pavement on the other side of the road. Including me. I'd generally agree otherwise, but not on the road I'm thinking of.

    The other problem with two abreast is the idiot frustrated motorist behind them, who overtakes on a blind corner after being stuck behind them for 15 minutes.

    There are some hilly roads in this city from which cyclists, HGVs and buses should be totally banned. They're just too narrow. Either that or the council should CPO some of the adjoining land and widen the road.

    Problem is, I think some of the sport cyclists like them that way; adrenalin junkie equivalent of a black diamond ski run...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    The International Solidarity section is really weak, imo. Solidarity with Argentina but no mention of Greece?

    And has no one in Sinn Fein ever heard of the Ukraine? We seem to have come a long way from the days when Republicans were happy to down tools and head off to Spain to fight fascism. I'm not suggesting that anyone should do the latter ... but at least take a position.

    And for a party that prides which claims national sovereignty as a core tenet the absence of any discussion on the EU is shocking.
    Many are happy to be winning for a change and are happy to coast to the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apjp View Post
    Seems pretty trivial given the more urgent problems facing people: Hunger, poverty, inequality, homelessness, water charges, low wages, finding a reliable job, collective bargaining rights, the housing crisis itself with evictions in the thousands.

    I know parties cater for all sorts but this seems like a Walter Mitty concern. You can't make people wear helmets, and helmets ain't exactly dear.
    I was addressing a motion on the Clár ....... all the other matters you refer to were also discussed .... and everybody agreed with everything .. all very boring. Obviously you've never been to an Ard Feis......... a political party is required to have policies on all these issues ..... they spent 2 hours discussing the 8th Amendment and LGBT issues .... naturally I went for lunch so I could avoid the Group Think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riposte View Post
    I was addressing a motion on the Clár ....... all the other matters you refer to were also discussed .... and everybody agreed with everything .. all very boring. Obviously you never been at an Ard Feis......... a political party is required to have policies on all these issues ..... they spent 2 hours discussing the 8th Amendment and LGBT issues .... naturally I went for lunch so I could avoid the Group Think.
    And you certainly put it up to the cyclists.

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    "We are the Cyclists"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    The International Solidarity section is really weak, imo. Solidarity with Argentina but no mention of Greece?
    What the **** are you talking about? the Greek Foreign Minister was at the Ard Feis as an invited guest.. as was the Cuban ambassador and the Palestian ambassador. Climb up out of that micro-left hole you are in........ and look around at the big wide world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    And you certainly put it up to the cyclists.

    They won't forget you.
    CF ....... common sense ..... is not as common as the term implies.
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    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
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    The Socialist Party were out like a flash attacking this that and the other yesterday.

    They really must be a countergang at this stage.

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    It will be interesting to see how much of the current rampant disunity disappears once the election is over and the coalition horse trading begins.

    I don't know whether the stronger pull will be between all on the left, or between those without connections to the Troubles, regardless of left right status. The allure of "respectability". Sigh.
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