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    Breaking News reports that the new National Childrens' Hospital is "under consideration" - (planning application made?) for the Mater site, and will be one of the tallest buildings in Dublin.

    Best practice for childrens' hospitals would surely include access to sun, grass and trees for children who are having a long hospital stay?

    The saga of the hospital is mired with the hands of all kinds of vested interests and short-sightedness.



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    Quote Originally Posted by C Flower View Post
    Breaking News reports that the new National Childrens' Hospital is "under consideration" - (planning application made?) for the Mater site, and will be one of the tallest buildings in Dublin.

    Best practice for childrens' hospitals would surely include access to sun, grass and trees for children who are having a long hospital stay?

    The saga of the hospital is mired with the hands of all kinds of vested interests and short-sightedness.



    Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/n...#ixzz0hUXXVpmW

    The hospital is on schedule to meet a revised 2014 deadline.


    That comment says it all. revised deadline indeed. What revision of thei deadline will be made in 2014? An establishment of this size would need enormous parking facilities for both staff and visitors. In the meantime there will be drilling, banging and dust for years. Very good environment for the ill.

    There are some huge sites just behind the Ballymun flats which would serve for building a brand new hospital with acres of parking but there's probably no vested interest.

    Sunshine, green areas and less carbon monoxide would be a better deal for curing sick children.

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    RTE radio just announced that Reilly will be making an announcement about the Childrens hospital today

    Which Dublin TD's will get it for their constituency seems to be the only question at this point
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    RTE radio just announced that Reilly will be making an announcement about the Childrens hospital today

    Which Dublin TD's will get it for their constituency seems to be the only question at this point
    Reilly says he has a proposal and will present it to Kenny and Gilmore within the next 10 days. After that it will go to Cabinet for discussion
    "The land Coillte Teo is now selling for development was given to them by the State in 1988 to ensure that our woodlands were run commercially, not to enable them to sell the family silver to service bank loans".
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    Reilly says he has a proposal and will present it to Kenny and Gilmore within the next 10 days. After that it will go to Cabinet for discussion
    Just to make sure it's going to the right ministers constituency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    Just to make sure it's going to the right ministers constituency.
    Leo (next Health Minister) and Joan (Labour deppity Leader) getting it, says the SBP

    SBP says that Blanchardstown will get the nod for the new children's hospital
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    Poor aul Jimmy can't get a quiet day

    MINISTER FOR Health James Reilly is on a collision course with medical specialists over the expected selection of Connolly Hospital Blanchardstown as the location for the new national children’s hospital.

    Dr Reilly said at the weekend he would bring the long-awaited decision on the hospital to the Taoiseach and Tánaiste in the next 10 days and a Cabinet decision was likely to follow shortly after.

    However, consultants working in Dublin’s existing three children’s hospitals have warned Dr Reilly, in a letter seen by The Irish Times, against locating a new hospital away from adult and maternity facilities.

    Separately, the master of the Rotunda maternity hospital, Dr Sam Coulter-Smith, expressed concern last week that the decision on the project was becoming a political rather than a clinical one.
    Blanchardstown is seen as the favourite to win not only because it can offer to build the project on a greenfield site with fewer planning difficulties but also because it is located in the constituency of Ministers Joan Burton and Leo Varadkar.

    Another greenfield site, at Belcamp in north Dublin, which is in Dr Reilly’s constituency, has also featured strongly in speculation.
    The letter, which was written on behalf of consultants at the three hospitals, says the new project will have to be on an adult campus “capable of delivering care at a high level across the maximum of specialties possible”.

    Meanwhile, in Galway at the weekend, when asked if the project would still be completed by the original 2016 timeframe, Dr Reilly replied that “hope springs eternal”. Asked whether he would be promoting a particular location he said: “The methodology around the choice of this will be robust and will be open for all to be examined, and that will be seen.”
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...325017421.html
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    Connolly Hospital, says the Herald. Also play Spot the real James Reilly



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    Still no decision.
    Gilmore digging into the background according to the Indo today.
    No trust left in Reilly, obviously.
    TANAISTE Eamon Gilmore is carrying out his own research on children's hospital locations in a sign of a breakdown of trust in Health Minister James Reilly.

    The behind-the-scenes moves illustrate just how poor the working relationship is between Dr Reilly and the Labour Party.

    As a result, Mr Gilmore's advisers are talking with the various bidders and compiling their own file on where to locate the new national facility, the Irish Independent has learned.
    http://www.independent.ie/national-n...n-3270040.html

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