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Thread: ISIS, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, Al Shabab etc. etc. - Where did they come from, where are they going ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    ISIS being thrashed in Mosul. 100,000 civilians still in the Old City: we can have no idea how many civilian deaths.
    Indeed. What little news is allowed out about the suffering of civilians makes it clear that what is being done to the people of Mosul is one of the great 21st century atrocities, far worse than the more publicized suffering of Aleppo.

    A very prolonged thrashing that has gone both ways. That ISIS has managed to hang on in Mosul for so long, with every hand against them, is one of the great military feats, whatever one thinks of those bastards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Marxist Historian View Post
    Indeed. What little news is allowed out about the suffering of civilians makes it clear that what is being done to the people of Mosul is one of the great 21st century atrocities, far worse than the more publicized suffering of Aleppo.

    A very prolonged thrashing that has gone both ways. That ISIS has managed to hang on in Mosul for so long, with every hand against them, is one of the great military feats, whatever one thinks of those bastards.

    -AMH-
    Well, not really. They had in theory a strong position - you were among those claiming they had massive support from the local population - and they were dug in in a dense urban area, which they had controlled long enough to fortify, build tunnels, booby trap etc. And they were using the local population as 'human shields'. It looks to me like an ignominious collapse. They blew up the Great Mosque in a fit of sulks. A suicide bomber blew up a meeting of ISIS leaders yesterday. They now only have a few hundred men left in 1 k square.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-bombers.html

    How many civilians do you think have been killed, and by whom ? What is your source for your comparison with Aleppo ?
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
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    Fascinating article here:

    The Anarchists vs. the Islamic State

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-state-w466069
    "If you go far enough to either extreme of the political spectrum, Communist or fascist, you'll find hard-eyed men with guns who believe that anybody who doesn't think as they do should be incarcerated or exterminated. " - Jim Garrison, Former DA, New Orleans.

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