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    That's a powerful speech from Iglesias.
    What news of the deals on forming a government?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    Contd.

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    The topics covered are on the nail and worth more examination.

    Podemos has introduced the term of “cast” replacing the Marxist term of bourgeoisie, or that of dominant class. The same applies to the concept of working class and the scientific definition of exploitation. Instead these concepts are replaced by a blur of considerations regarding corruption and unfair distribution
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Binn Beal View Post
    That's a powerful speech from Iglesias.
    What news of the deals on forming a government?
    More gossip at the Spanish election thread http://www.politicalworld.org/showth...5#.Vn0cORWLTIU
    but learn Spanish if you're really curious
    The main Spanish left paper by looks (it went online only some time ago) http://www.publico.es/ google translate does the headlines ok-ish but hard to get the meaning of most of it . has the latest statements from PODEMOS and the old left IU (and regional parties like Catalan CUP etc) along with lots of confusing opinion and analysis from various viewpoints
    Last edited by GregTimo; 25-12-2015 at 10:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
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    http://pceml.info/actual/
    Do not rejoice in his defeat, you men. For though the world has stood up and stopped the bastard, the (female dog) that bore him is in heat again. Bertolt Brecht

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    Involved analysis of the general election by Íñigo Errejón (PODEMOS general secretary) which is still beyond me on a 2nd skim entitled ;
    'Into the Breach: strategic notes after general elections'
    -I expect it covers their big turnaround in Catalonia and the even more amazing success in the Basque Country which was well astonishing to me(they came 1st without the need for a broader front taking a huge slice of the nat left and PSOE votes by looks )
    . Whether it lasts is another question altogether http://blogs.publico.es/dominiopubli...nes-generales/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%8D...o_Errej%C3%B3n
    http://resultados-elecciones.rtve.es...so/pais-vasco/
    Last edited by GregTimo; 12-01-2016 at 04:20 PM. Reason: additional info

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    Gains for the Left

    SPAIN'S LEFT-WING PARTIES MAY WIN MAJORITY OF SEATS: EXIT POLL
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    Gains for the Left
    "Its's all about immigration"...

    not.
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    Podemos Pablo Iglesias's 'middle left' slate has won the internal elections decisively is the gossip from a French site (associated with the Left Front 'Independents' Ensemble) http://www.regards.fr/web/article/le...pablo-iglesias

    Pre-Congress analysis from an Irish Podemos member who gave a briefing at a Joan Collins/I4C meeting last year . There's another on the site which I find somewhat hectoring favoring the 'anticapitalitas' who came third, but Eoghan's sticks to explaining the difference between the 'Pablositas'/middle left and Errejonistas (young Social Democrats?) https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/02/p...establishment/
    Last edited by GregTimo; 13-02-2017 at 06:12 AM.

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    A major split has finally occurred with former No2 Errejon (and his apparently considerable admirers representing a sort of populist social democratic right) going his separate way
    Left populist friendly analysis in French https://lvsl.fr/podemos-devant-labime-de-la-defaite
    And another which would favour the Iglesias side (coincidentally he is credited with the Yellow Vests article in Spanish Publico I shared on that thread) Errejon is (by implication) condemned by association as a Macroniste, but I think it is of course complicated and a lot to do with ego sadly
    http://www.regards.fr/monde/article/...stes-unitaires
    There hasnt been a collapse in the polls though thankfully (I get the impression of much confusion though) . Podemos has for a long time operated with wide coalitions anyway . The major poll drop happened before this (back in 2017) is what seems significant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinio...neral_election
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    And today's Irish Times analysis is also inconclusive but seemingly sharp enough https://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...hday-1.3798309

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    Podemos might be needed to make up the numbers


    Spain's ruling Socialists are on course to be the biggest party in the third election in four years, but have fallen short of a majority.

    PM Pedro Sánchez's party is set to win under 29% and would need the support of left-wing Podemos and possibly Catalan nationalists to form a government.

    For the first time since military rule ended in the 1970s, a far-right party is set to enter parliament.


    https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-48081540
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    Well the result a relief anyhow . It had looked bad but a swing back left in the past few days saved the day it seems . The continued emergence of the extreme right Vox offset by a going debacle for the PP (which they split from being the story I've heard) . I'm doing some messy analysis elsewhere here while awaiting the usual sources . And just on Podemos+(UP) my take;
    And though a far cry from the hey day of 2015 it is a solid enough result for them (14%/42 seats) considering the defection of both social-democrat like (former no2 Errejon led who went Independent) and poser left wings(the opportunist former Podem leader who defected to the centre-left nats in Catalonia AFAIK). They live on to fight another day . Sanchez has said he is now open to an actual coalition with Podemos+ which will could fresh problems for the movement https://jacobinmag.com/2019/04/podem...s-psoe-sanchez

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