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    Default New TUV Councillor Jolene Bunting under fire for sectarian remarks

    New TUV councilor Jolene Bunting, their first ever in Belfast, is under pressure after sectarian remarks she previously made on her facebook account have emerged:

    The Loyalists Against Democracy group have brought them to light:











    Source: http://loyalistsagainstdemocracy.blo...ist-voice.html

    TUV leader Jim Allister doesn't seem to really care:

    https://audioboo.fm/boos/2197184-tra...unionist-voice

    And the woman herself is sorry, but not really sorry:

    Speaking to the Belfast Telegraph yesterday, Ms Bunting said that she didn't regret what she had stated but accepted that she wrote them in the wrong way.

    "I wrote them in the wrong. I've matured since then and I realise now that ranting on Facebook isn't going to change anything. The council chamber is where I will be voicing my concerns," she said.

    "I don't support foreign flags being flown in the streets of our city and I object to the changing of our street names. That's the mandate I was elected on by a community frustrated by the constant pandering to Sinn Fein/IRA."

    Ms Bunting was elected as the sixth and final councillor for the Court ward with 839 first preference votes.

    "I do want to apologise for the innocent people in the Court ward who I offended with by using the word Catholic when I meant republicans," she said.

    "At the time I was young and not a member of the TUV and I know that since then I have matured in my knowledge and understanding."

    Ms Bunting also hit out at popular social media group Loyalists Against Democracy (LAD), who first circulated the comments.

    "I know that there is a largely student element to those working for LAD and I would think that Queen's University would be keeping their students a bit busier than trawling through Facebook to dig up dirt and slander people."

    TUV leader Jim Allister described the incident as an "unfair fishing exercise".
    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-30306391.html

    Traditional Unionist Voice indeed.

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    Default Re: New TUV Councillor Jolene Bunting under fire for sectarian remarks

    FFS, feeling ill.
    "The floggings will continue until morale improves "

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    Default Re: New TUV Councillor Jolene Bunting under fire for sectarian remarks

    Traditional Sectarian Voice.

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    Lol. She's just a little ( lot ) thick and wacist. Nothing that you wouldn't see coming from a respectable commentator couched in clever language.

    Freedom of speech for morons, lets people know what they're dealing with.

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    ''Scraping the bottom of the barrel'' says Jim Allistar..
    http://www.u.tv/News/TUV-silent-over...8-245c777a2285

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    Default Re: New TUV Councillor Jolene Bunting under fire for sectarian remarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Shaadi View Post
    Lol. She's just a little ( lot ) thick and wacist.
    Yeah ... but she's hot ... lol !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by riposte View Post
    Yeah ... but she's hot ... lol !!
    Shoulda gone to Specsavers....
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    Great, new rule, everything which happened more than 2 years ago can be ignored as ancient history.

    The TUV candidate here had a convicted and utterly unrepentant loyalist as one of his subscribers (proposers) but yet they refuse to even look at someone from Sinn Féin making their acceptance speech.

    LAD also turned up pics of another candidate dressed in paramilitary gear, armed and standing between UVF flags. Jim's excuse? Yeah, that was before he was a candidate and sure he was really young. (It was the previous year)
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    I consider this an appropriate apology

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    Quote Originally Posted by riposte View Post
    Yeah ... but she's hot ... lol !!
    Has hot taken on a different meaning with ye young ones? :P

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    The frightening thing about Ms. Bunting's opinions on so many things is that it is now the mainstream of British nationalism. This year, the rise of UKIP and the Scottish independence referendum debate has dramatically surfaced the rightward drift of British nationalist sentiment over the last 40 years. OK, I hear many of you saying that it was a pretty damn reactionary nationalism anyway, but the post-WWII social compact that lasted until Thatcher bought the loyalty of the UK's working class and that 'deal' was widely admired and seen as progressive internationally, mostly by social democrats. The NHS and the welfare state were the two things that Brits of all classes would say they were proud of, if asked, and for British working class people these institutions, the NHS in particular, became 'national totems' as much as the monarchy and the military are for the Britnats of today (and yesterday, and the day before...). You know, once upon a time the concept of a 'British Road to Socialism' had currency in the UK's left. Today, anybody who thinks that is either a fool or a nationalist knave. 'Tis pity there's so many of both those types in the current UK left.
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    The frightening thing about Ms. Bunting's opinions on so many things is that it is now the mainstream of British nationalism. This year, the rise of UKIP and the Scottish independence referendum debate has dramatically surfaced the rightward drift of British nationalist sentiment over the last 40 years.
    Is there a right element to Scottish nationalism ? Back in the day it meant "lets secede from the Tory State" almost as much as anything to do with nation.

    OK, I hear many of you saying that it was a pretty damn reactionary nationalism anyway, but the post-WWII social compact that lasted until Thatcher bought the loyalty of the UK's working class and that 'deal' was widely admired and seen as progressive internationally, mostly by social democrats.
    Thatcher was hated by the British working class. The Brighton bombing was the only IRA bombing in the UK that was openly celebrated in working class areas. People were only sorry she was missed.

    The NHS and the welfare state were the two things that Brits of all classes would say they were proud of, if asked,
    Not really: the upper class had BUPA and their private clinics, and kept to them even in the days when they were much inferior to the NHS.

    and for British working class people these institutions, the NHS in particular, became 'national totems'
    highly valued and appreciated, yes. Before then a lot of people could not get medical care.

    as much as the monarchy and the military are for the Britnats of today (and yesterday, and the day before...).
    Recently there has been a sentimental totemism about the NHS, that is true. Thatcher's cuts in the NHS were part of the reason she was hated.

    You know, once upon a time the concept of a 'British Road to Socialism.
    Today, anybody who thinks that is either a fool or a nationalist knave. 'Tis pity there's so many of both those types in the current UK left.
    Wasn't that a CPGB slogan, as in also the French, German, Spanish roads ? Basically, reform capitalism through elections. It didn't work, because elections were not respected and never will be, by those with real power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riposte View Post
    Yeah ... but she's hot ... lol !!
    Quote Originally Posted by Fraxinus View Post
    Has hot taken on a different meaning with ye young ones? :P
    What he means is ''Don't touch it!''

    Snooooooooooooooooooooooooop! Drop it like it's hot...


    And Stop! ''Hammer Time''...MC Hammer.... you can't touch this.... and stuff like that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower

    Is there a right element to Scottish nationalism ? Back in the day it meant "lets secede from the Tory State" almost as much as anything to do with nation.
    My comments were about British nationalism, not Scottish nationalism in its current manifestation. It's the independence referendum debate that I referenced and the tenor of the Britnats' participation in it so far that is exposing the increasingly extreme rightwing nature of today's British nationalism. Either my prosody or your parsing skills are not up to it, C. Some one of us will have to up their game.

    Scottish nationalism used to have it's own racial essentialist credo early on in the 20th century but the Scottish nationalist movement of today is much more inclusive, progressive and civic in its outlook. The independence movement that's come into existence over the last 2 years is a much bigger thing again. It's not just the Tories the Scottish polity wants to flee, it's the whole Westminster system and it's attendant hellspawn like Bliar and the Kippers.


    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower
    Thatcher was hated by the British working class. The Brighton bombing was the only IRA bombing in the UK that was openly celebrated in working class areas. People were only sorry she was missed.
    Morrissey's quote on that is deadly - only thing he could never forgive the IRA for. Thatcher ended the social wage and industrial Britain, and she and her successors have replaced it with workfare and pervasive fleg-branding of every goddamn consumer item you can think of. Some deal for the 'British' worker there eh? Never mind, says Rupert, lets blame the furriners for the car crash of a society that is contemporary Britain. The UK today has a political class whose understanding is so superficial that if someone mentioned the phrase 'theatre of cruelty' to either Clegg, Cameron, Farage or Milliband they'd think it was a controversial new policy paper from some corporate thinktank. And UKIP is this lot's preferred vessel for the electorate's anger. They're playing with semtex, nitrocellulose and TNT all at once, never mind fire. It'll not end well.

    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower
    Not really: the upper class had BUPA and their private clinics, and kept to them even in the days when they were much inferior to the NHS.
    I wasn't commenting on whether toffs used the NHS, what I was saying was that if British people either at home or abroad were asked what about Britain they were proud of, the NHS would be the one thing people of all classes would mention, as well as the welfare state. The toffs would have their fingers crossed of course, but they'd still utter that shibboleth if they knew what was good for 'em politically, especially before 1990.

    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower
    highly valued and appreciated, yes. Before then a lot of people could not get medical care.



    Recently there has been a sentimental totemism about the NHS, that is true. Thatcher's cuts in the NHS were part of the reason she was hated.
    The UK's working class felt royally shafted by the British system in the years after WWI. For much of the 1920s, it was doubtful if the British establishment and their state would survive. Daily life for most of the UK's population was a grim experience, with hunger, want and disease all around. That was a time of riots, industrial militancy, the General Strike, navy mutinies, martial law, economic depression, staggering mass unemployment and naked class war. The post-WWII society, with the national health, the social safety net and the expanding education system and the public housing boom, for working people it was heaven compared to the living hell of just a generation ago. No wonder the NHS was so loved, and the Milk Snatcher so hated.

    For about two generations the UK's proletariat felt included in a 'British commonweal'. If you're struggling to get by in today's Britain, such sentiments don't seem so viable anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower
    Wasn't that a CPGB slogan, as in also the French, German, Spanish roads ? Basically, reform capitalism through elections. It didn't work, because elections were not respected and never will be, by those with real power.
    Yes it is, and the CPGB's unionist position on Scottish independence is bizarre. They actually favour a nuke-waving nationalism steeped in empire over one that is now nothing of that sort? Maybe the comrades have been watching The Longest Day and the British War History Channel over much. The militarist nostalgia of both left and right over the sheugh. The British Disease.
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