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    Quote Originally Posted by barrym View Post
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    It is only three years since the Agency was telling us there was no housing shortage.
    ???? In 2014??? Referring to what year? These people live in a different universe.
    Conor Skehan of the Housing Agency and Noonan were saying there was no crisis and plenty of zoned land.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/esri-housin...ce=businessetc

    In the same year, Morgenroth at the ESRI pointed out that there was an acute shortage of housing in Dublin.

    People were being put out onto the streets from homes they had paid rent for for decades, and there was nowhere for them to go.
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    The FT had a long chew on the Irish housing crisis a few months back.

    https://www.ft.com/content/ba41c19e-...9-3fee5ffe5b5b
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    The FT had a long chew on the Irish housing crisis a few months back.

    https://www.ft.com/content/ba41c19e-...9-3fee5ffe5b5b
    A Marxist quoting from the FT.

    Quite honestly, Colly, what in the **** is the matter with you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist View Post
    A Marxist quoting from the FT.

    Quite honestly, Colly, what in the **** is the matter with you?
    It used to be Cactus. I must be going soft..

    Marx based much of Das Kapital on the work of bourgeois economists. We all after all are living in and observing the same world.
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    Another awful situation of a family, mother with cancer on chemo, living in a shared hotel room with her daughter (her carer) and grandchild.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...-35463646.html

    Coveney must be hoping he will be Taoiseach before his bluff onbringing an end to hotel room living is called.
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    The Help to Buy scheme's benefit already more than eaten up by the currently €6,000 a month plus house price increases.

    With a massive backlog of people who have been waiting to buy, and saving, and a still totally inadequate supply, a price bubble is inevitable.

    This is exactly what happened the last time.
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    There is no some way-too-late backtracking by Government over closing down Dublin's long term bedsits (making people homeless in the process). And while the perfectly livable bedsits with a couple of people sharing a bathroom have been closed, houseshares are being let with up to 15 people in one room in bunks in a shared house sharing one bathroom between 30 people.

    There is a long legacy of substandard lets in Dublin without adequate Fire inspection. Grrr to all of this, which is all completely compatible with FG's social and economic outlook.

    One thing that houseowners can do to help as individuals is to take a lodger under the tax free lodger scheme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    It used to be Cactus. I must be going soft..

    Marx based much of Das Kapital on the work of bourgeois economists. We all after all are living in and observing the same world.
    Fair point, and apologies for that outburst.
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    Homeless people in Ireland are from a much greater social spectrum than at any time in the last fifty years.

    But there are still as well as newly homeless households many individuals who might be seen as possible addicts or alcoholics.

    In fact, many of them are people who had a traumantic head injury before they became homeless and who have consequentially impaired ability to cope and who may show signs or symptoms easily mistaken for being drugged or drunk. According to this report 50 % of homeless people in Britain have minor or major brain injuries. The article concludes "don't get brain injured". Not much help for those who already are, and who may just need a small amount of extra support from service providers if they are to avoid homelessness and early death on the streets.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-s...ness-1.3051895
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    Dublin Council of Trade Unions

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    May Day march in Dublin to call for Government action on housing crisis
    Social activists will join trade unionists at the 2017 May Day March in Dublin which will focus on a call for Government action to solve the worsening housing crisis in Ireland. The march, that concludes at Liberty Hall, Dublin 1, will begin at the Garden of Remembrance, Parnell Square, Dublin, on Monday, 1st May, at 2.00 p.m.
    Pat Bolger, President of the Dublin Council of Trade Unions said: “This year the Dublin Council of Trade Unions are joining forces with the National Homeless and Housing Coalition to celebrate May Day. The annual May Day march in Dublin marks both the social advances won by working people and call for support for the struggles being waged today for a better society. Paramount among those struggles is the fight for decent housing for all.
    “The march will highlight the fact that housing is a right not a privilege and that public land should be used to build public housing and not for private profit.”
    Karan O Loughlin Campaigns & Equality Organiser with SIPTU said: “Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government, Simon Coveney has promised there will be no families in emergency accommodation in hotels by July 2017. We intend to hold him to his word. So far, there are few signs that enough homes to house those currently in emergency accommodation in hotels will be built.
    The current government proposals contained in its Rebuilding Ireland are all about subsidising private landlords, this is wrong and instead we need a large-scale public housing programme, on that will provide enough homes for the 100,000 individuals and families on housing waiting lists.
    Peter McVerry Trust added: “The Nevin Economic Research Institute has released detailed proposals for cost rental public housing. The Government needs to implement such a policy that would mean we can build mixed income public housing without private developers.”
    A press conference will be held in Buswells Hotel, Dublin 2 on Thursday at 11.00 a.m. to officially launch the Dublin May Day March. Among those who will address the press conference are leading housing campaigner, Fr. Peter McVerry, SIPTU National Campaigns and Equality Organiser, Karan O Loughlin and the Director of the Migrant Rights Centre Ireland, Edel McGinley
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    I see the christian people of Clontarf don't want the homeless on their doorstep.....

    OTOH one kitchen for 13 families?

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrym View Post
    I see the christian people of Clontarf don't want the homeless on their doorstep.....

    OTOH one kitchen for 13 families?
    What is this about ? One of Coveney's "Family Hubs". Given the speed at which these are being opened, it is questionable whether they have gone through the planning application process in all cases.
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    TASC has produced a paper on the housing crisis which points in my view correctly to large scale public house building as the only solution.
    This morning there is an RTE report about 1000 flats to be built and sold to a single landlord with the promise of 20 million a year rental profit/income (which?).

    The discussion of the TASC paper was marred with headline grabbers like "at the present rate of housing construction, it would take 40 years to house everyone currently on the Dublin housing list". This is an abstract concept that does not give us information about the scale of the housing problem. People have to be on the list to get rental subsidies in the private sector. So it doesn't mean they are currently unhoused or not getting state support. It is to some extent about who their landlord is. And from that statistic, we have no idea how many of them really need a home as they currently don't have one, or are living in overcrowded conditions (a big and increasing problem in Dublin).
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    The 1000 apartment "deal" is right up Veradkar's alley, a big vulture fund, flush with cash, builds a (crap?) (cheap?) building and sells it to "investors" in flats. Oh, there is talk of gyms, play areas, etc. Who will pay the ongoing maintenance?

    Maybe it is the move, like the rest of the world, to apartment dwelling for big connurbations? Good luck with that.

    Whatever happened to spatial strategy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrym View Post
    The 1000 apartment "deal" is right up Veradkar's alley, a big vulture fund, flush with cash, builds a (crap?) (cheap?) building and sells it to "investors" in flats. Oh, there is talk of gyms, play areas, etc. Who will pay the ongoing maintenance?

    Maybe it is the move, like the rest of the world, to apartment dwelling for big connurbations? Good luck with that.

    Whatever happened to spatial strategy?
    I missed that story, but yes, that is FG. Housing is a commodity made to make profit.

    So that means apartments in big cities. Dublin can punch its weight along with other world cities, whereas "beyond the Pale" is part of a tiny island that can compete with nowhere. In modern globalised capitalism the only spatial strategy that would 'work' would be to build Cork up into a real city. There is an argument on that going on right now, over City /County borders.

    But the apartments in big cities only work for the companies that own them and the companies that hire the people who rent them.

    An alternative is to have a spatial plan, to invest in infrastructure for a city in each region in Ireland and to build social housing. That would never be done by FG - FF used to do it to some extent, but don't really exist independently politically any more.

    Things are getting worse in housing every month, because there is a rolling, accumulating shortfall in housing production.

    http://www.echo.ie/news/article/priv...s-eoin-o-broin
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