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    Quote Originally Posted by Seán Ryan View Post
    There are no intelligent or caring legislators.
    A judge in Xania (Crete) caused uproar and consternation not so long ago when a single mother (3 children) decided to fight the eviction notice she got from the bank. She had lost her job, was in arrears with the mortgage and the bank decided to put the booth in instead of talking. The judge ruled that the bank had firstly loaned the money irresponsibly by not taking into account the possibilty of the woman losing her job in these bad economic times and having no back-up, had been greedy when setting the interest on the loan, had overvalued the house by 70% and showed all the signs of what a bank should not be. He went over all the payments made, the contract, "real value" of the house, suffering and anxiety caused, and ordered the bank to hand over the deeds. In his judgement he stated that the bank had received more than enough for the house and it would be immoral to allow them to keep on charging or evict the woman...
    Same judge set the homeless mother caught in Iraklio, "stealing" food for her baby, free and ripped strips of the supermarket manager for taking her to court instead of giving her the support she needs. He will decide today (I think) on the "legality" of the many squatters in Rethymno who are refusing to comply with eviction orders. I think the squatters are in good hands. The judge is not a popular man in certain circles, but then again, with others he is very popular...

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    RTE is screening a programme this evening at 8.30 on what happens to tenants when their landlords go bust. Eviction, in many cases, without their deposits being returned as they are "unsecured creditors." I posted last year on a man now homeless in Dublin who had been evicted from his flat in Limerick by Nama. He had been up to date with his rent, but could not raise a deposit to get a new tenancy.

    Lack of ability to raise a month's deposit is a recurring reason for homelessness.
    So writing off debts is not without consequences then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    So writing off debts is not without consequences then?
    Nobody ever said it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    RTE is screening a programme this evening at 8.30 on what happens to tenants when their landlords go bust. Eviction, in many cases, without their deposits being returned as they are "unsecured creditors." I posted last year on a man now homeless in Dublin who had been evicted from his flat in Limerick by Nama. He had been up to date with his rent, but could not raise a deposit to get a new tenancy.

    Lack of ability to raise a month's deposit is a recurring reason for homelessness.
    Deposits are ridiculous in this day and age. When I moved into where I am I had to pay a deposit of one months rent in advance even though it was a live in landlord. Being on a low wage it was a struggle and I borrowed the money for the deposit from the credit union. It can happen easily that someone in a position akin to the one you outlined above becomes evicted quickly. Common sense should dictate that with so much NAMA housing lying idle that we could solve the housing problem in one swoop...
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    Another death, predicatable.

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    Yes. See the rent thread. A family that can barely afford interest only on a tracker won't be able to afford a private sector rental in the same area. Then you run into commuting cost issues for any family members still in work.

    I live in hope that the buy to let landlords will be sufficient to keep the repossessions brigade busy for now.
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    The man called Piotr was interviewed on the PK show this morning. He is 32, and very upset about his friends death. After media coverage of their situation, living with no money in public toilets, they were moved to a tourist hostel in Galway, but had lost their support systems that were in Ennis and had no food apart from breakfast. They returned to Ennis to find that they were prevented by security from sleeping in the toilets (separate blocks because Josef snored). Also, people were giving them money and drink and they both had a drink problem. Josef was 52. Neither were able to get access to programmes to change from their alcoholism. Neither entitled to benefits.

    Still no word on why the Polish man jumped from the DCC offices last week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morticia View Post
    Yes. See the rent thread. A family that can barely afford interest only on a tracker won't be able to afford a private sector rental in the same area. Then you run into commuting cost issues for any family members still in work.

    I live in hope that the buy to let landlords will be sufficient to keep the repossessions brigade busy for now.
    We have to be able to better than have half the population living hand to mouth and stressed out of their minds about their futures and I'm sure that we could.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    We have to be able to better than have half the population living hand to mouth and stressed out of their minds about their futures and I'm sure that we could.
    Not under the current troika-ocracy. We need serious QE and devaluation and we aren't about to get it at the moment.
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    Fortunately, we have a government who will eliminate homelessness

    We are committed to ending long term homelessness and the need to sleep rough.
    To address the issue of existing homelessness we will review and update the existing
    Homeless Strategy, including a specific focus on youth homelessness, and take into
    account the current demands on existing housing and health services with a view to
    assessing how to best provide additional services.
    In line with our Comprehensive Spending Review, we will alleviate the problem of long
    term homelessness by introducing a ‘housing first’ approach to accommodating homeless
    people. In this way we will be able to offer homeless people suitable, long term housing
    in the first instance and radically reduce the use of hostel accommodation and the
    associated costs for the Exchequer
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    Fortunately, we have a government who will eliminate homelessness



    http://michaelpidgeon.com/manifestos...-%20FG-Lab.pdf

    This policy has been a disaster as it overlooks to very obvious facts - one that some people are homeless because they have problems other than housing, and need supported housing. This existed, but because of the "housing first" policy has been closed down. Secondly, there is a constant flow of people becoming homeless, and the policy does not recognise that.

    Basically it was another developer-friendly scam to get more houses bought, while scrapping existing support services.
    Sickening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    Fortunately, we have a government who will eliminate homelessness



    http://michaelpidgeon.com/manifestos...-%20FG-Lab.pdf

    They might as well be committed to porcine aviation for all the good they can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    The man called Piotr was interviewed on the PK show this morning. He is 32, and very upset about his friends death. After media coverage of their situation, living with no money in public toilets, they were moved to a tourist hostel in Galway, but had lost their support systems that were in Ennis and had no food apart from breakfast. They returned to Ennis to find that they were prevented by security from sleeping in the toilets (separate blocks because Josef snored). Also, people were giving them money and drink and they both had a drink problem. Josef was 52. Neither were able to get access to programmes to change from their alcoholism. Neither entitled to benefits.

    Still no word on why the Polish man jumped from the DCC offices last week.
    And so starts the vicious circle

    This is death by austerity, just like the kid who died at the hands of the lack of facilities in the HSE
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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffybiscuits View Post
    And so starts the vicious circle

    This is death by austerity, just like the kid who died at the hands of the lack of facilities in the HSE
    Any word on why the man jumped ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Any word on why the man jumped ?
    Didnt hear much on the topic.

    Rumours I heard it was a suicide...

    Nothing about it on google...
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