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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub View Post
    Two points:

    1. As has often been stated, there were no steps of the GPO from which Pearse, Clarke or anyone else could have read the Proclamation

    2. There's a logic to Matthews' claim of it being Clarke that actually read the Proclamation, aside from his being the first name among the signatories. The rising was staged by the IRB, of which Clarke was then the President; according to the IRB's constitution, its Supreme Council was the government of the Irish Republic until such time as that Republic was actually established and its (the IRB's) President was therefore the President of the Irish Republic. Pearse is later referred to as "Commanding in Chief the Forces of the Irish Republic and President of the Provisional Government" (see http://www.adams.ie/11838/EASTER-WEE...ntous-occasion) but notably NOT referred to as the President of the Republic which had been proclaimed the day before.
    Glad to have Clarke's role to some extent confirmed. I will now adjust my mental image of the event to exclude any steps at the GPO.
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    Heather Humphries is "open to corporate sponsorship" of 1916 events.

    Roll on the greasy till.
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    Diarmuid Ferriter on Primetime- no programme to advise on.

    Why does the advisory committee not suggest a programme ???

    Apparently there will be a plan announced on the 12th of this month.

    Then public consultation.

    Time is short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Diarmuid Ferriter on Primetime- no programme to advise on.

    Why does the advisory committee not suggest a programme ???

    Apparently there will be a plan announced on the 12th of this month.

    Then public consultation.

    Time is short.
    There's no official enthusiasm for 1916 commerations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyJoe View Post
    There's no official enthusiasm for 1916 commerations.
    Perhaps she'll get Irish Water to sponsor it
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Perhaps she'll get Irish Water to sponsor it
    Now you're talking. Logos on all the official umbrellas.....

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    Tonight's launch by Kenny in the GPO was enlivened by noisy protests outside. He was heckled by a woman inside who shamed him over the IMF sell out.

    So things have got off to a #vibrant start

    https://twitter.com/ireland2016
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    Enda called everything under the sun...

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    The Government's efforts are fortunately so unambiguously insulting, it makes it easy to see that what 1916 needs is following through, not commemorating.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/he...sing-1.1999460
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    Shocking. I suppose it really shows the FG & Lab & parts of the civil service's attitudes to Irish nationalism, independence, culture and indeed the seminal event of 20th century Irish history.

    An Independent celebration must be set up asap. Something that will actually celebrate the events and discuss and interpret them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogiol View Post
    Shocking. I suppose it really shows the FG & Lab & parts of the civil service's attitudes to Irish nationalism, independence, culture and indeed the seminal event of 20th century Irish history.

    An Independent celebration must be set up asap. Something that will actually celebrate the events and discuss and interpret them...
    We should do something here, too online. Anyone who has them, send ideas to me, please, by pm.
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    I wouldn't worry. SF will either be in the Govt or leading the opposition by then. I would have full confidence in their ability to commemorate 1916 properly.....
    "The floggings will continue until morale improves "

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    Government hire a marketing executive to run commemorations. Diarmuid Ferriter slightly critical

    Prof Diarmaid Ferriter of University College Dublin, who is one of the 11 academics appointed two years ago to the 2016 advisory committee, told The Irish Times that the video is “completely inappropriate” and “very corporate”. He fears that it may reflect the Government’s overall approach – an approach, he says, also reflected in the appointment of a marketing executive to head the project.

    “We had warned against commercialisation and commodification, and a Gathering Mk II, but this is what this all smacks of,” Ferriter says. “Take the video, which we didn’t even see in the briefing we got – just two hours before the launch on Wednesday night. It’s embarrassing, unhistorical sh*t.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/irela...medium=twitter
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    Ferriter is very much the Tim Pat Coogan in waiting!!

    Legend.

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    The video Ferriter spoke about was played on TWIP

    Aodhan O'Riordan said it has been decommissioned
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