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    Loyalist collusion[edit]

    Special Patrol Group[edit]

    See also: Special Patrol Group (RUC)

    Elements of the RUC are alleged to have colluded with loyalist paramilitaries throughout the 30-year conflict. The Special Patrol Group was formed in the late 1960s as the Police Reserve Force. The name was changed to avoid confusion with the newly formed part-time Police Reserve in 1970,.[1] and was renamed "Divisional Mobile Support Unit" (DMSU) in 1980 after two of its members were convicted of terrorist offences including kidnap and murder.[1] The two, John Weir and Billy McCaughey, implicated their colleagues in a range of crimes including giving weapons, information and transport to loyalist paramilitaries as well as carrying out shooting and bombing attacks of their own.[23]

    The Stevens Inquiry[edit]

    Main article: Stevens Inquiries

    On 18 April 2003 as part of the third report into collusion between Loyalist paramilitaries, RUC, and British Army, Sir John Stevens published an Overview and Recommendations document (Stevens 3).[24] Stevens' intention was to make recommendations which arose from serious shortcomings he had identified in all three Enquiries.[25] In his autobiography, Stevens was at pains to point out the outstanding loyalty and shared dedication to justice that he experienced from many RUC officers. He mentions many names including Detective Superintendent Maurice Neilly, who died in the 1994 Chinook air crash.[26]

    The third Stevens Inquiry began in 1999, and referred to his previous reports when making his recommendations. Stevens' third inquiry focused in detail on only two of the murders in which collusion is alleged; the murder of Brian Adam Lambert in 1987 & the killing of Pat Finucane in 1989.

    Stevens used the following criteria as a definition of collusion while conducting his investigation:
    The failure to keep records or the existence of contradictory accounts which could limit the opportunity to rebut serious allegations.
    The absence of accountability which could allow acts or omissions by individuals to go undetected.
    The withholding of information which could impede the prevention of crime and the arrest of suspects.
    The unlawful involvement of agents in murder which could imply that the security forces sanction killings.[27]

    Police Ombudsman[edit]

    See also: Nuala O'Loan#Operation Ballast investigation into collusion

    In a report released on the 22 January 2007, the Police Ombudsman Nuala O'Loan stated Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) informers committed serious crimes, including murder, with the full knowledge of their handlers.[28] The report stated that Special Branch officers created false statements, blocked evidence searches and "baby-sat" suspects during interviews. Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) councillor and former Police Federation chairman Jimmy Spratt said if the report "had had one shred of credible evidence then we could have expected charges against former Police Officers. There are no charges, so the public should draw their own conclusion, the report is clearly based on little fact".[29] However, Northern Ireland Secretary of State Peter Hain said that he was "convinced that at least one prosecution will arise out of today's report
    Unionists brush all this under the carpet of course...
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    Breen, one of the men whose deaths was investigated in the Smithwick Tribunal, was part of the SPG. Can we merge the threads?
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    Fire ahead. Im only getting up to speed on the issue now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffybiscuits View Post
    Fire ahead. Im only getting up to speed on the issue now...
    Have a look at this article making news today, we see that collusion is not an illusion...

    Quote. The government is facing legal action from 32 families whose relatives were killed by a loyalist gang allegedly containing members of the RUC and UDR.

    They claim the authorities knew about the activities of the UVF gang based at a farm in Glenanne, south Armagh.

    The gang has been accused of carrying out 120 murders on both sides of the border during the early 1970s. unquote.

    Story here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-26991706
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    Trow have you read Sean McPhilemy's book "The Committee"?
    Lots of legal issues surrounding it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    Trow have you read Sean McPhilemy's book "The Committee"?
    Lots of legal issues surrounding it.
    You know, my cousin just gave me a copy but hav'nt got stuck into it yet.
    What's the legal issues do you know? Are they about what's contained in the book, if so i'll get right into it asap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trow View Post
    You know, my cousin just gave me a copy but hav'nt got stuck into it yet.
    What's the legal issues do you know? Are they about what's contained in the book, if so i'll get right into it asap.
    Yes the book is effectively banned this side of the Atlantic it seems, because of the persons named as being involved in the commission of political assassinations (needless to say we won't mention any names on here but you'll recognize them). The author was sued a number of times but he had some legal victories against accusations he made it all up. I just bought the book myself in a second hand shop and haven't got around to reading it yet either but it looks very interesting.


    EDIT: http://irishecho.com/2011/02/mcphile...r-committee-2/

    McPhilemy’s book, based on a1991 documentary for British Channel Four television, names 23 members and five associates of a central committee, which the author’s source alleges guided loyalist paramilitaries to their targets.

    Although the book has not been published in Ireland or in Britain, it has been swept up in a storm of controversial press and legal action. But even critical press has not stopped sales.

    That fact was not lost on the packed crowds who came to hear McPhilemy speak at Rocky Sullivan’s in Manhattan last week, where many queued with three or four copies of the book in hand for the author to sign.

    “Every word in that book is true, every single word of it – that the people who met to run that committee were primarily concerned to defeat IRA terrorism,” McPhilemy told a rapt audience.

    “But they were sectarian, they had no particular concern when entirely innocent young Catholics were murdered when they couldn’t find the people they were looking for.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trow View Post
    Have a look at this article making news today, we see that collusion is not an illusion...

    Quote. The government is facing legal action from 32 families whose relatives were killed by a loyalist gang allegedly containing members of the RUC and UDR.

    They claim the authorities knew about the activities of the UVF gang based at a farm in Glenanne, south Armagh.

    The gang has been accused of carrying out 120 murders on both sides of the border during the early 1970s. unquote.

    Story here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-26991706
    Whats interesting of note is that this is a civil case , even a test case. Should this proceed it would open thedoors perhaps for other victims to claim and sue the state if they can prove the state had prior knowledge. Police ombudsman in NI is supporting them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    Yes the book is effectively banned this side of the Atlantic it seems, because of the persons named as being involved in the commission of political assassinations (needless to say we won't mention any names on here). The author was sued a number of times but he had some legal victories against accusations he made it all up. I just bought the book myself in a second hand shop and haven't got around to reading it yet either but it looks very interesting.
    Just pulled another book from the shelf that was given to me recently titled Lethal Allies [British Collusion in Ireland] by Anne Cadwallader.
    Chapter 5 has a heading ''The murderous cycle continued'' [Jan -May 1976] and reveals an internal memo from an MI6 official to senior british civil servant and reads...
    Quote. Certainly the Catholic population [and indeed some protestants] believe that there must be a ''Mr. Big'' directing protestant murder gangs, particularly just before elections'' unquote. Focuses on the Glenanne gang.

    I'll get stuck into both books over Easter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffybiscuits View Post
    Whats interesting of note is that this is a civil case , even a test case. Should this proceed it would open thedoors perhaps for other victims to claim and sue the state if they can prove the state had prior knowledge. Police ombudsman in NI is supporting them.
    There's a lesser threshold in a civil case whereas the same evidence presented in a criminal court would fail to secure a conviction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trow View Post
    There's a lesser threshold in a civil case whereas the same evidence presented in a criminal court would fail to secure a conviction.
    When you say threshold does that mean there is less burden of proof?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffybiscuits View Post
    When you say threshold does that mean there is less burden of proof?
    Civil case = "Balance of probabilities"

    Criminal Case = "Beyond reasonable doubt"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    Civil case = "Balance of probabilities"

    Criminal Case = "Beyond reasonable doubt"
    Thanks SgD, was up to speed on criminal but never knew about Civil Case!!
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    The Family of a Woman shot dead by the UDA/UFF in South Belfast are to sue the British Government for alledged collusion in her murder.

    Quote. Teresa Clinton was killed in a sectarian UDA gun attack on her south Belfast home in April 1994.

    On the anniversary of her murder, lawyers representing her widower Jim confirmed High Court writs have been issued against the Ministry of Defence and the PSNI.

    Papers served on the defendants claim damages for misfeasance, negligence, breach of statutory duty and conspiracy to injury.

    Mrs Clinton, 34, was watching television when gunmen smashed a window at her house off the lower Ormeau Road and opened fire. Her children were in the house when she was killed.

    Although Mr Clinton was not present, it is believed he was the UDA gang's target. A report into the assassination of Belfast solicitor Pat Finucane is said to back this up.

    The legal action will centre on whether military intelligence knew and, if so, what was done to warn the family. Mr Clinton has said he would consent to an amnesty for those who pulled the trigger. unquote. http://www.u.tv/News/Family-sue-over...a-54b4e3e92374

    Note the last sentence in the above quote.

    Story also here, worth a read. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-27023215
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    Although Mr Clinton was not present, it is believed he was the UDA gang's target.

    The legal action will centre on whether military intelligence knew and, if so, what was done to warn the family. Mr Clinton has said he would consent to an amnesty for those who pulled the trigger.
    Fair play to you Mr. Jim Clinton.

    Researching, i note the execution of leading UDA/UFF Loyalist Joe Bratty which occurred 3 months after the murder of Teresa Clinton in 1994.

    Quote.. Joe Bratty (c. 1961 - 31 July 1994) was a Northern Irish loyalist activist and a leading member of the Ulster Defence Association's South Belfast Brigade. The head of UDA activity in the area during one of the organisations most active phases Bratty was suspected by security forces of playing a role in, or at least orchestrating, around 15 killings. unquote.

    The execution of South Belfast's UDA/UFF trigger unit.

    Quote... However, Bratty and Raymond Elder were killed by the IRA on 31 July 1994 in an act seen as one of a number of "revenge attacks" immediately prior to the IRA ceasefire. The pair had been drinking in a loyalist band hall unaware that two gunmen were waiting outside in a van, and both died at the scene of the attack. The gunmen were armed with AK-47 assault rifles. The van was pursued by a Royal Ulster Constabulary vehicle that was in the area but the chase stopped when the police vehicle was impeded by a crowd of republicans. Bratty was 33 years old at the time of his death. He left behind a widow and a son. His son was given honorary membership of the Paisley Imperial Blues flute band, the leading UDA-aligned flute band in Scotland, immediately following his father's death unquote. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Bratty

    If Bratty and co were responsible there's no prosecution possible. There certainly is no amnesty from execution.... postmortem.
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