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    Looks like the Terms of Reference for the Fennellly inquiry will be published tomorrow. Another irritant kicked into touch until next year.
    RTÉ News understands that the terms of reference for the Commission of Investigation into telephone recordings will be comprehensive.The Cabinet is due to discuss the issue tomorrow.
    It is understood that the views of the Oireachtas Justice Committee, which recently wrote to the Government, will be taken into account.
    It is understood that the terms will be flexible to take into account other recordings that have emerged or may emerge.This would indicate that recordings in prisons will be included, but the Cabinet will have to sign off on the terms tomorrow.
    It is believed that Mr Justice Nial Fennelly will report back within a year.
    The legislation also provides for interim reports.
    It is further understood that it will be decided by Mr Justice Fennelly if the commission will carry out its work in public or private.
    The Cabinet will discuss the issue in the morning and make a final decision on the matter.
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0407/607...da-recordings/

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyJoe View Post
    Looks like the Terms of Reference for the Fennellly inquiry will be published tomorrow. Another irritant kicked into touch until next year.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0407/607...da-recordings/
    Nifty. To touch and to some extent out of the hands of the Committees.

    We will have to do what we can to keep the spark of interest alive
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    Terms of Reference for the Fennellly inquiry published today.

    Published on Tuesday 8th April 2014Government Announces Terms of Reference for Commission of Investigation to be Conducted by Mr Justice Fennelly

    At its meeting today, the Government agreed on the terms of reference for the Commission of Investigation to be conducted by Mr Justice Fennelly.
    The main issues to be investigated are:
    - the operation of telephone recording systems, to record calls other than 999 calls to the Emergency Call Answering Service, at a large number of Garda Stations over many years,
    - the specific implications of the taping related to the Garda investigation into the death of Ms Sophie Toscan Du Plantier in County Cork in December 1996, and related matters,
    - how these matters were dealt with by the responsible authorities,
    - the sequence of events leading up to the retirement of the former Garda Commissioner in March 2014.

    These terms of reference incorporate the views of the Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality.
    The Order establishing the Commission of Investigation, including the terms of reference, will be laid before each House of the Oireachtas for approval.
    The Government also approved the membership and terms of reference for the new Cabinet Committee on Justice Reform.
    The Cabinet Committee’s terms of reference are:
    “To oversee the development of proposals for an independent police authority, and other associated reforms to the policing and justice system.”
    The membership of the Committee is the Taoiseach (Chair), the Tánaiste, the Minister for Justice and Equality and the Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources.
    The Attorney General will also attend meetings of the Cabinet Committee.
    Terms of Reference for Commission of Investigation
    to be Conducted by Mr. Justice Fennelly

    1. On the 8th day of April, 2014, by an Order of the Government made under Section 3 of the Commissions of Investigation Act, 2004, a Commission of Investigation has been established for the purpose of investigating issues of significant public concern relating to:
    - the operation of telephone recording systems, to record calls to and from Garda Stations other than 999 calls to the Emergency Call Answering Service, at a large number of Garda Stations over many years,
    - the Garda investigation into the death of Ms Sophie Toscan Du Plantier in County Cork in December 1996,
    - how these matters were dealt with by the responsible authorities,
    - the sequence of events leading up to the retirement of the former Garda Commissioner in March 2014.

    2. The Commission is directed to investigate and to make a report to the Taoiseach in accordance with the provisions of Section 32 of the Commissions of Investigation Act, 2004 (No. 23 of 2004) on the operation of Garda Síochána telephone recording systems and on the following matters in particular:
    (a) To identify all Garda Stations in which telephone recording systems, to record calls other than 999 calls to the Emergency Call Answering Service, were installed and/or operated by An Garda Síochána between 1st January 1980 and 27th November 2013 and to establish an inventory of those Garda Stations so identified to include:
    (i) the date of initial installation, where such installation occurred at a date between 1st January 1980 and 27th November 2013;
    (ii) to report whether any such installations were already in existence on the 1st January 1980;
    (iii) the duration for which telephone recording systems continued in operation in each such Garda Station;
    (iv) the date on which telephone recording systems were terminated or removed from each such Garda Station.

    (b) To establish the immediate circumstances surrounding the installation of telephone recording systems operated by An Garda Síochána at the said Garda Stations referred to at 2.(a) above and to establish what authorisation was sought or obtained by An Garda Síochána for such installation and, including the funding, installation, maintenance and / or upgrading of those telephone recording systems, to include the public procurement procedure followed in 1996 and further in relation to the installation of the NICE recorder system in 2008.
    (c) To establish how the said telephone recording systems operated by An Garda Síochána were managed and to establish what use (if any), was made by An Garda Síochána of any information collated by the said telephone recording systems.
    (d) To identify the organisation and structures in place for the installation, operation and management of the said telephone recording systems and in the storage, access, analysis and use of any information obtained from them.
    (e) To investigate and report on the level of knowledge of the existence, operation and use of the said telephone recording systems within An Garda Síochána.
    (f) To investigate and report on the level of knowledge of the existence, operation and use of the said telephone recording systems within the Office of the Minister for Justice and Equality, the Department of Justice and Equality, the Office of the Attorney General, the Chief State Solicitor’s Office, the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions, the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner and the Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission.
    (g) To establish whether the installation, operation and use of the said telephone recording systems was authorised by law.
    (h) To establish whether any telephone conversations between solicitors and their clients were recorded by the said telephone recording systems.
    (i) To establish whether any information obtained from the said telephone recording systems by An Garda Síochána was used by it either improperly or unlawfully and, in particular, whether any recordings as may have been made by An Garda Síochána of Solicitor / Client telephone conversations were used for any purpose whatsoever.
    (j) To establish where the recorded information obtained from the telephone recording systems operated by An Garda Síochána was stored since the creation of same and to establish how such information was accessed and analysed by An Garda Síochána.
    (k) To establish whether any of the recorded information has been destroyed.
    (l) To establish any instances during the relevant period where the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions made use of the data and information produced by the said telephone recording systems for any purpose.
    (m) In particular, to identify and review all recordings in the possession of An Garda Síochána emanating from the Garda telephone recording system at Bandon Garda Station or otherwise, which relate to the Garda investigation into the death of Sophie Toscan du Plantier at Schull, County Cork in December 1996 and to establish whether those recorded phone calls, and any other acts or events in the course of the said Garda investigation, disclose any evidence of unlawful or improper conduct by members of An Garda Síochána in connection with that investigation.
    (n) To investigate and report on the furnishing to the Minister of a letter dated 10th March 2014 sent by the former Garda Commissioner, Mr. Martin Callinan, to the Secretary General of the Department of Justice and Equality.
    (o) To investigate and report on the sequence of events leading up to the retirement of the former Garda Commissioner Mr. Martin Callinan on the 25th March 2014.
    (p) In the event that any matter arises from the Report of the Inspector of Prisons Judge Michael Reilly pursuant to section 31 of the Prisons Act 2007 into all the circumstances surrounding the recording of telephone conversations between prisoners and their solicitors, which appears to require further investigation in the public interest the Commission may investigate and report on same.
    (q) To report on any other matters of concern arising from its investigation of recordings to and from Garda Stations and to make any further recommendations as it sees fit.
    3. The Commission shall exercise discretion in relation to the scope and intensity of the investigation it considers necessary and appropriate, having regard to the general objective of the investigation. In particular, the Commission shall have the discretion to decide to limit its investigation to samples of recordings in the light of what is disclosed as the investigation progresses.
    4. The Government has appointed the Honourable Mr. Justice Nial Fennelly, Judge of the Supreme Court, to act as the Sole Member of the Commission of Investigation.

    5. The Commission of Investigation is directed to conduct the task assigned to it under these Terms of Reference and to report to the Government no later than the 31st December 2014, subject to section 6(6) of the Commissions of Investigation Act, 2004.


    http://www.merrionstreet.ie/index.php/2014/04/government-announces-terms-of-reference-for-commission-of-investigation-to-be-conducted-by-mr-justice-fennelly-2/?cat=3

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    The Du Plantier case should not be included as part of this inquiry.

    Its a separate issue which is still before the courts, so a lot will be sub-judice, also it has the potential to take over the inquiry and leave other matters aside (probably deliberate). It warrants an investigation of its own after Baily's court case.

    Saying that, this will probably just be another whitewash with one or two people hung out to dry (preferably "former members of...")

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    Quote Originally Posted by yi25 View Post
    The Du Plantier case should not be included as part of this inquiry.

    Its a separate issue which is still before the courts, so a lot will be sub-judice, also it has the potential to take over the inquiry and leave other matters aside (probably deliberate). It warrants an investigation of its own after Baily's court case.

    Saying that, this will probably just be another whitewash with one or two people hung out to dry (preferably "former members of...")
    It is with GSOC too - it seems extraordinary to lump it in with the national taping issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yi25 View Post
    The Du Plantier case should not be included as part of this inquiry.

    Its a separate issue which is still before the courts, so a lot will be sub-judice, also it has the potential to take over the inquiry and leave other matters aside (probably deliberate). It warrants an investigation of its own after Baily's court case.

    Saying that, this will probably just be another whitewash with one or two people hung out to dry (preferably "former members of...")
    Callinan's 'retirement' shouldn't have been included either. That's a purely political matter which should have had the Justice Committee chomping at the bit to call all the named participants in to find out what happened. It's a government controlled committee so of course that was never going to happen.

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    The Fennelly Commission full report has just been published - 700 pages - and according to RTE says that in no case did all those thousands of years of taping lead to improper use by Gardai.Fennelly thinks the Gardai should keep taping.http://www.taoiseach.gov.ie/eng/Fenn...ommission.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    The Fennelly Commission full report has just been published - 700 pages - and according to RTE says that in no case did all those thousands of years of taping lead to improper use by Gardai.Fennelly thinks the Gardai should keep taping.http://www.taoiseach.gov.ie/eng/Fenn...ommission.html
    You all know the whole top brass need to be sacked and the Justice system completely reformed.

    Instead of an outsider, we need a whistleblower to be put in charge of the whole operation.

    In about 500 years when FF and FG voters die off maybe there'll be justice reform.

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