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    Default Affordable Postgrad Options in the research sector.

    I thought there might be a few others on here who like me didn't think there was much opportunity in the way of postgrad learning. It turns out according to a few former lecturers of mine I chatted to during the week a number of Irish colleges are moving their affordable postgrad options into research. You can apply to the Research council for complete funding in your area anyways if you want to keep on full time, an option I am looking at, but one other option which should interest most Irish graduates is a loyalty fee scheme which DIT have come up with and which I hear might be happening in other colleges. Again like most things good it wasn't ever advertised and I only found out about it recently through chance. http://www.dit.ie/researchandenterpr...chschool/fees/

    The whole point of the the cheap part time fees is unlike taught courses students can pick and choose their hours, so it lets you keep on working full time. It's also handy if like I was, you might face a month or two each winter out of work, and so you can still get your social welfare while studying as it's part time. I am looking at maybe working abroad for six months then coming back to start in October or so as although I have a degree I haven't got my language certs yet so that restricts my masters choice in EU countries and I don't want to put off a masters for another year.

    I thought others like saoirse, and anyone else might be interested in this loyalty fee thing which seems new, especially if they have a few research areas(I am looking at language revival policy in either NUIG if I get the funding or in DIT as they're very supportive regarding applying anytime of the year and also seem to be growing as regards policy analysis in many different areas). It seems from what I'm finding out the institutions at least in my own college's case are ploughing the cheap fee funding into Research MAS which can be done in 18 months, and then PHDs matching undergrad fees but also offering these loyalty fees which is supposed to help the research sector grow and encourage people to get into academia as well as specialist areas like Science, language planning, economic and educational policy etc.

    With that in mind maybe a thread on Affordable Postgrad options is warranted so people can exchange info and let others know of things colleges do not always publicise. 1125 euro is DIT's MA fee and 1500 their PHD fee. It sounds like a lot but if you are working full time most of the year I would say it is doable, and you don't have the poverty trap taught students with no funding fall into reliant on borrowing or in some cases even underdeclaring or charity to scrape by.
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    This looks like good news for research and researchers. Might be a bit more problematic for science as funding for reagents, consumables and equipment would be required as well, but maybe they have that covered, or have plans to do so?
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    DIT are very smart regarding stretching resources. Also there's a very easygoing non arsewhole culture there. Teachers who get touchy about students don't tend to last long and move onto the more elite colleges very quickly(you know the types, refused you a ref. and emailed it to everyone over you drinking coffee or eating a sandwich in their class-that happened in my case and I got a flood of ref offers from half my old lecturers then! said official arsewhole has since moved onto one of the big two officer class colleges that hoard all the funding but actually lack creativity and common sense regarding fees, attendance dissertation options if you're in certain taught courses even-all of which only benefit the smaller guys which is a weird knock on effect of favouring some and shunning others with the doughouts).

    I would say research is the one sector that can save the domestic economy from being taken over completely by MNC's. Maybe some sectors like science are compromised but most of it is doable within the state apparatus and adjusting to allow working people to participate by offering old students these special fees can only grow the sector too.
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    Can't help thinking that if the research community in diverse areas banded together, we'd possibly manage to effectively undercut some of the big consultancy firms. Hmmm...
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    The Dublin IT's should merge if you ask me. They'd seriously threaten the other institutions and could foster a good research culture too. Typically the IT's are also far more progressive in getting poorer and less advantaged people into college as well as having realistic points and points reduction schemes for those who cannot afford the grinds others can.

    A good course in Blanchardstown, Dun Laoighaire or Tallaght or even DIT may be 2-300 points lower than its equivalent in Trinity for example.

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    Very interesting - I hadn't even thought about research programs and the careers person in my college made no mention of it (typical).

    How exactly does a masters via research actually work? Do most colleges simply offer their taught masters via research (if that makes sense). Long term I have my eye on doing a masters on 19th century Ireland, probably in UCD - if I want to do a research masters in that area is it a case of applying to their school of history and saying you want to do your thesis on, for example, a particular part of the famine? Rather than picking a masters off a list as you do for a taught program. I'm completely ignorant about how this works, but on the face of it it sounds ideal for someone like me. Why the careers person made no mention of this option when I met her about affordable postgrad options is beyond me - she basically said you need 7/8k and sin é.

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    In the American system, typically, it is not possible to get a master's degree without a research thesis component unless this is replaced with an internship.

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