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    I can't find much in English about it, but here are some links which google translate makes comprehensible. It seems a bunch of them have been arrested and charged with a variety of offenses.

    http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionära_Fronten

    http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article17867517.ab


    I don't know much about the Revolutionary Front but it seems they are a far left socialist/anti fascist group who are not reluctant to get stuck in:




    (I think the people they are targeting in the video are fascists)

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    Thugs! Are they Jewish homes they're smashing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Binn Beal View Post
    Thugs! Are they Jewish homes they're smashing?
    No.

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    Anti Cap /Autonomists. One would suspect a heavy sprinkling of Mark Stone cop types.

    http://translate.google.com/translat...25A4ra_Fronten
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Anti Cap /Autonomists. One would suspect a heavy sprinkling of Mark Stone cop types.

    http://translate.google.com/translat...25A4ra_Fronten
    When people do not take it to the Nazis (Syriza and Communist Part in Greece for example) you complain. When people organise themselves to take it to the Nazis you diss them as probably being heavily infiltrated by cops (even though you know absolutely nothing about them).

    There seems to be no winning. When will come the day when real Marxists, properly attuned to the CF version of Trotskyism, put the Nazis off the streets of Europe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    When people do not take it to the Nazis (Syriza and Communist Part in Greece for example) you complain. When people organise themselves to take it to the Nazis you diss them as probably being heavily infiltrated by cops (even though you know absolutely nothing about them).

    There seems to be no winning. When will come the day when real Marxists, properly attuned to the CF version of Trotskyism, put the Nazis off the streets of Europe?
    Perhaps when they don't do it with spraycans on Youtube ? What evidence do you have that this little groups in their hoodies have "taken out the Nazis" ? Perhaps when they at least attempt to build organisations in the working class and trade unions ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Perhaps when they don't do it with spraycans on Youtube ? What evidence do you have that this little groups in their hoodies have "taken out the Nazis" ? Perhaps when they at least attempt to build organisations in the working class and trade unions ?
    Sure. Like the Trotskyites all over Europe who managed to go through the entire second world war without firing a shot at a Nazi.

    I'll take the boys and girls in the hoodies any day rather than the "politically correct" analysis that is always aimed at undermining resistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Perhaps when they don't do it with spraycans on Youtube ? What evidence do you have that this little groups in their hoodies have "taken out the Nazis" ? Perhaps when they at least attempt to build organisations in the working class and trade unions ?
    Have you tried to look at what Revolutionära Fronten have done, besides a brief video? Their website (revfront.org) is currently down. (I don't know if this is connected to the raids) but from talking to some people and reading around online it seems that they do quite a bit in terms of defending workers, protesting etc and they have had many discussions and study groups and even invited the likes of Ruairi O'Bradaigh over to speak at their events.

    So why dismiss them as a "little group in their hoodies"? What do you think of AFA Ireland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    Have you tried to look at what Revolutionära Fronten have done, besides a brief video? Their website (revfront.org) is currently down. (I don't know if this is connected to the raids) but from talking to some people and reading around online it seems that they do quite a bit in terms of defending workers, protesting etc and they have had many discussions and study groups and even invited the likes of Ruairi O'Bradaigh over to speak at their events.
    I agree, a video and ten minutes reading online is not enough to know a group. I was going on the association with the anti-cap movement generally in Europe as it has appeared over the years often in a provocative role in the international events that have been used to tool up and train riot police. They may all be completely genuine people with no Mark Stones amongst them. I will try to find more to read.

    So why dismiss them as a "little group in their hoodies"? What do you think of AFA Ireland?
    I don't know too much about them: from what I've read they sound well motivated. In Ireland there have not been many overt fascist groups carrying out racist attacks. I think that groups that are mainly focused on a physical response, rather than a wider political solution, are placing a limit on their development that is likely to become a problem in one way or another - partly because of people being attracted because they like a fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    When people do not take it to the Nazis (Syriza and Communist Part in Greece for example) you complain. When people organise themselves to take it to the Nazis you diss them as probably being heavily infiltrated by cops (even though you know absolutely nothing about them).
    I was talking about this group, not a mass party with roots in the working class, like Syriza and the Communist Party. But I would agree that I don't know enough about this group: perhaps they have been trying to get wider involvement in defence against fascists.

    There seems to be no winning. When will come the day when real Marxists, properly attuned to the CF version of Trotskyism, put the Nazis off the streets of Europe?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    Sure. Like the Trotskyites all over Europe who managed to go through the entire second world war without firing a shot at a Nazi.
    I'll take the boys and girls in the hoodies any day rather than the "politically correct" analysis that is always aimed at undermining resistance.
    I'm thoroughly in favour of people organising to defend themselves, and getting support from left and workers organisations, whether they are people under attack from racists, or left movements under attack. Where I have seen this done effectively it was done by the people under attack themselves, with support from other organisations. I think that the actions of Trotskyists who took an abstentionist stance to WW2 were wrong. As you know, that was not Trotsky's position.
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    Default Re: Revolutionära Fronten the target of extensive police raids and arrests

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=38f_1368974961


    The same group, smashing up an apartment.

    This seems to be a different anti-fascist youth group in Sweden with a discussion on strategy, tactics and the political response, or lack of it, from left parties.

    http://revolutionsweden.wordpress.co...in-salem-2007/
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    Some were released last night. Their website has apparently been down for months.

    They have a Face Book page -
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Revol...81394458605362

    Report here from yesterday's Aftonbladet

    "Far Left Under Arrest"

    We are working intensively in the investigation and work in multiple locations, says Towe Hägg, spokesperson at the Stockholm police told Aftonbladet .

    Several police departments are cooperating on the law which was conducted under the name Operation Eskil early this morning .

    In connection with the law arrested several persons.

    In Stockholm , the police to the two addresses. A large number of policemen from the National Task Force and the Security Service , SAPO , went early this morning in two residential buildings on the different addresses .

    A while later they came out with two men , as alleged Aftonbladet has connections to the Revolutionary Front.

    But the police are secretive about what the investigation file .

    - We are working intensively in the investigation and work in multiple locations, says Towe Hägg spokesperson at Stockholm police early this morning .

    According Eskilstuna courier , police in Örebro made ​​numerous seizures of spears, fire bombs and weapons ready for street fighting.

    - A very comprehensive crackdown. Weapons that are now off the streets , said Sörmlandsleden Police Communications Frederick Wallen told the newspaper.
    Assault and unlawful threats

    According to police, those arrested on suspicion of aggravated assault that took place in central Stockholm on 14 September this year. But even with two counts of aggravated assault , criminal damage and assault committed in Västerås 29 September 2012.

    - In Västmanland we brought in five people for questioning. Three people are arrested on suspicion of assault , vandalism and two counts of aggravated assault , says Johanna von Wowern , spokesperson at Västmanland Police .

    According to police concerns that an event that occurred in Kolsva in Västerås on 29 September 2012.

    The preliminary investigation of the rough beating in Stockholm led by Prosecutor Carl Mellberg .

    - What they belong to groups is subordinate to me, I want to examine them for the alleged crimes , he says to Aftonbladet.

    Five people have been arrested and suspected of aggravated assault that took place on September 14.

    One person was arrested early this morning, but neither Mellberg want to talk about how many people have been arrested in total. According to documents from the court is the person arrested an 18- year old man from Örebro.

    - There are a number of people , he said to TT.
    battered innocent

    In a video on the net, with the left extreme of the Revolutionary Front as the sender , the protests against neo-Nazi Swedes Party rally on 14 September in central Stockholm.

    The film shows how the masked people hitting and kicking a man lying on the sidewalk. According Eskilstuna Courier filed Revolutionary front as if the battered man was the extreme right , which according to the police not at all true .

    - He just seems to have ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time , said Stockholm police investigator Bengt Carlsson told the newspaper in mid-October.

    The police raid also prevented future attacks , according to themselves.

    - The fittings include already provided a basis for launching a new investigation into preparation for aggravated arson , says Sörmlandsleden police spokesman Frederick Wallen to SVT Sörmlandsleden .
    http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article17867517.ab

    Said to be similar politically to Red Action, and to involve themselves in other campaigns, not only anti-fascist action.

    Also said to have been taking some education steps in the organisation to deal with police - arrests, interrogation, infiltration.

    Red Action - politically very interesting, quite a big focus on Ireland.
    http://www.redactionarchive.org/p/hi...f-present.html
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    Default Re: Revolutionära Fronten the target of extensive police raids and arrests

    Equally interesting, Spanish police are cracking down on drug dealers in the Costa del Sol many of whom have Irish connections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Binn Beal View Post
    Equally interesting, Spanish police are cracking down on drug dealers in the Costa del Sol many of whom have Irish connections.
    It is. But surely off topic on this thread ?
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    Any more updates on what is happening?


    I see they took the time to give a shoutout to the 32CSM on their facebook in light of claims the Gardaí were heavy handed during a raid.

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