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    Default Brendan Curran Quits Sinn Féin

    The Democrat can exclusively reveal that the Newry Town councillor has handed in his resignation.
    Curran has been a high profile representative of Sinn Féin since he helped found the Newry branch more than three decades ago. His election in 1985 saw him become the party's first councillor within the district for 75 years and he went on to also become its first council chairperson. Today he is the district's longest standing elected representative.
    http://www.newrydemocrat.com/article...ts-from-party/

    He has left because of a combination of the careerists and yes men ("the destructive effects of a small elitist clique") who will soon dominate the party and Sinn Féins moves away from the working class towards more middle class centric politics. (apparently)

    This is surely a blow to Sinn Féin in Armagh
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    “While I will no longer remain as a Sinn Fein councillor, I fully support the Sinn Fein leadership and I will continue to represent the people who elected me in a non-party affiliated designation."
    Looks like a petty little local squabble to me.
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    Default Re: Brendan Curran Quits Sinn Féin

    Been watching Sinn Fein closely for a long time now and it seems clear that those who wield power within the party are preparing to do a PD/Green/Labour sellout if there's a sniff of a possibility of coalition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riposte View Post
    Looks like a petty little local squabble to me.
    If squabbles like this replicate themselves all over the country, with people quitting for the same reason, then obviously there is a systemic problem. (I know for a fact, through personal experience that there is).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MediaBite View Post
    Been watching Sinn Fein closely for a long time now and it seems clear that those who wield power within the party are preparing to do a PD/Green/Labour sellout if there's a sniff of a possibility of coalition.
    Of course there's a sniff of power and the 33/1 available about a FG/SF coalition should be hoovered up, what a chance for a grand off a €30 bet! But if you think SF are as vacuous and lacking in long term electoral nous as the others you're miles out. They're ruthlessly ambitious and the current rapprochement with FG on some issues moves them into FG voter transfer territory having already exhausted the FF/Lab pool of as much support as they could easily gain in the short term.

    There's a certain no nonsense just do it attitude that is common to FG and SF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaadi View Post
    Of course there's a sniff of power and the 33/1 available about a FG/SF coalition should be hoovered up, what a chance for a grand off a €30 bet! But if you think SF are as vacuous and lacking in long term electoral nous as the others you're miles out. They're ruthlessly ambitious and the current rapprochement with FG on some issues moves them into FG voter transfer territory having already exhausted the FF/Lab pool of as much support as they could easily gain in the short term.

    There's a certain no nonsense just do it attitude that is common to FG and SF.
    Jazus Shaadi .... you're as bad as meself .... lol!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MediaBite View Post
    Been watching Sinn Fein closely for a long time now and it seems clear that those who wield power within the party are preparing to do a PD/Green/Labour sellout if there's a sniff of a possibility of coalition.
    I am betting on FG/SF govt as it's highly likely that SF will sell their souls. A whiff of power and trappings would tempt them despite all their fine talking like Gilmore did before.

    All talking/words wouldn't translate into same action like Gilmore and Labour party did in their election campaigning.

    If i were a bookie man, i would wager 100e bet on FG/SF in govt to achieve an overall majority like FG have now with Lab.

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    Default Re: Brendan Curran Quits Sinn Féin

    SF/FF maybe but I doubt we will see a coalition with FG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riposte View Post
    Jazus Shaadi .... you're as bad as meself .... lol!!
    There's a SF electoral monster coming over the hill and people still think they're little boys and girls that are going to be pushed around by the big boys in FF and FG, when the reality is that SF are used to playing senior hurling with AK47s.

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    Default Re: Brendan Curran Quits Sinn Féin

    In one way it will be fun to see SF in government... Martin Ferris as minister for justice anyone? The shock might kill off the SINDO

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    SF have in common with FF in some ways but not so with FG.

    With Labour gone in next election, FG are targeting SF more than FF as axis of FG/FF seems unthinkable. However anything is possible in politics re next coalition as you know.

    If FG figures goes down say 19% or 20% in next GE 2016, they wouldn't be able form a coalition. It would be a matter of permutations re 166 seats re FF and SF or FF with new party RA or FF with INDS?

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    Default Re: Brendan Curran Quits Sinn Féin

    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    In one way it will be fun to see SF in government... Martin Ferris as minister for justice anyone? The shock might kill off the SINDO


    They're in a perfect position, with Adams as leader they can then watch FG and FF squirm as they try to pretend to negotiate with Adams. Slaying the gunman bogey before FF and FG end up going in together anyway. It won't take much more than 15% for SF to make any other combination bar FF and FG practically impossible to implement without including themselves.


    Odds to form the next Govt.

    FF/FG 11/10f, FG/LAB 5/2, FF/SF 7/1, FG minority 16/1, FG majority 33/1, FG/SF 33/1, FG/LAB/SF 100/1 etc..

    http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politi...grp_ids=591647

    Seat totals after the next GE.. 5/6 under or over -> FG 48.5, FF 37.5, Others 30,5, SF 26.5, Labour 13.5, Greens 1.5.

    That's a fairly miserable 85 seats combined for FF and FG combined, but just enough to give them a nice stable majority.

    http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politi...rp_ids=1176658

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    Quote Originally Posted by disability student View Post
    SF have in common with FF in some ways but not so with FG.

    With Labour gone in next election, FG are targeting SF more than FF as axis of FG/FF seems unthinkable. However anything is possible in politics re next coalition as you know.

    If FG figures goes down say 19% or 20% in next GE 2016, they wouldn't be able form a coalition. It would be a matter of permutations re 166 seats re FF and SF or FF with new party RA or FF with INDS?
    It's going to be a 158 seat Dail next time, 80 seats will be needed to form a bare majority, although 79 would do if they gave the Ceann Comhairle position to the opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaadi View Post
    It's going to be a 158 seat Dail next time, 80 seats will be needed to form a bare majority, although 79 would do if they gave the Ceann Comhairle position to the opposition.
    Thanks Shaadi re no of seats.

    Unrealistic odds for FG/Lab as labour may get 10 seats or lower. They won't get the transfer votes this time around as last election was a 'one off' unprecedented transfers.

    FG /Lab have a long way to go with two successive budgets before next GE. Think Ind's will hold all the cards as they will negotiate a deal either with FG or FF.

    More in terms of probabilities, 3 party coalition except for FG/FF.

    Loss of 8 seats .. would it mean for future govts...... endless coalition as days of overall govt majority effectively over???
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    Quote Originally Posted by disability student View Post
    Thanks Shaadi re no of seats.

    Unrealistic odds for FG/Lab as labour may get 10 seats or lower. They won't get the transfer votes this time around as last election was a 'one off' unprecedented transfers.

    FG /Lab have a long way to go with two successive budgets before next GE. Think Ind's will hold all Endlthe cards as they will negotiate a deal either with FG or FF.

    More in terms of probabilities, 3 party coalition except for FG/FF.

    Loss of 8 seats .. would it mean for future govts...... endless coalition as days of overall govt majority effectively over???
    Endless Coalitions is right and multiple possible permutations. That'll suit the electorate just fine because they don't trust any single party anymore.

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