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    Former Taoiseach Bertie Ahern was assaulted on the street Saturday night while out celebrating with friends.

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish...tacked-2711790
    http://www.independent.ie/incoming/s...-29744140.html

    Ray Connolly took a swing at him with his crutch.

    Mr Connolly told reporters that he was sitting at the bar having a pint when Bertie and his friends came in.

    But Mr Connolly snapped and pounced when he heard Mr Ahern say: “That was in the good old days,” before bursting out laughing.
    I am in two minds about this, whaddya think yourself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by musashi View Post
    Former Taoiseach Bertie Ahern was assaulted on the street last night.

    http://www.independent.ie/incoming/s...-29744140.html

    Some fella had a go at him with a crutch.
    I am in two minds about this, whaddya think yourself?
    I think he should stay out of pubs.

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    Or maybe reinstate his garda security?
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    Thousands are leaving Ireland's shores due in large part to this little fart's lousy handling of our economy over three terms of state office. He neither apologises for his part in this nor appears to have any genuine regrets of the damage done. Worse, he seems to consider himself entitled to lord it up, strutting about in public shirking off any criticism aimed at him.

    If he has genuine fears for his personal safety, or his future in Ireland in general, let him take to the departure gates like many of his fellow countrymen and women.

    There's few places he couldn't afford to live in relative comfort and security with the incredible pension entitlements alone. Factor in his dodgy money, digouts, and other investments, and he's on the hog's back.

    But to expect the ordinary Irishman to swallow it whole when he walks into a regular pub and sit schtum while he sups on several state-funded pints of Smithwicks is asking a wee bit too much.

    Shatter's right: if he's frightened, then let him fork out for a personal security agent himself.

    Or go away.

    Far away.

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    In a way, it's sad looking at what happens to corrupt politicians like Ahern and Haughey when their paymasters or alleged paymasters, who are the really awful ones, have it so easy and don't have to worry about "the public".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mowl View Post
    Thousands are leaving Ireland's shores due in large part to this little fart's lousy handling of our economy over three terms of state office. He neither apologises for his part in this nor appears to have any genuine regrets of the damage done. Worse, he seems to consider himself entitled to lord it up, strutting about in public shirking off any criticism aimed at him.

    If he has genuine fears for his personal safety, or his future in Ireland in general, let him take to the departure gates like many of his fellow countrymen and women.

    There's few places he couldn't afford to live in relative comfort and security with the incredible pension entitlements alone. Factor in his dodgy money, digouts, and other investments, and he's on the hog's back.

    But to expect the ordinary Irishman to swallow it whole when he walks into a regular pub and sit schtum while he sups on several state-funded pints of Smithwicks is asking a wee bit too much.

    Shatter's right: if he's frightened, then let him fork out for a personal security agent himself.

    Or go away.

    Far away.
    Good post eloquently put.
    But what about a citizen's rights, surely a person has a right to enter an establishment with the reasonable expectation that his physical safety shall be maintained.
    Is this sort of assault acceptable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceannaire View Post
    In a way, it's sad looking at what happens to corrupt politicians like Ahern and Haughey when their paymasters or alleged paymasters, who are the really awful ones, have it so easy and don't have to worry about "the public".
    Sad? What's sad?
    Seems to me Bertie has it pretty good (aside from this recent incident) he hasn't faced any sanction for his misdemeanors, of which there were many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by musashi View Post
    Good post eloquently put.
    But what about a citizen's rights, surely a person has a right to enter an establishment with the reasonable expectation that his physical safety shall be maintained.
    Is this sort of assault acceptable?
    Acceptable? No, of course not.

    Understandable? Yes, absolutely.

    If he wishes to harp on about his citizen's rights now that he's out of office, then there has to be an equal and balanced right for the downtrodden and pressured Irish citizen to voice their opinions regarding same when meeting the man out in public.

    If one were to apply the same line of thought and entitlement to, say, convicted rapist Larry Murphy or the defrocked pedophile Tony Walsh, then that's where Aughrim is lost.

    Ahern's an idiot if he expects everyone everywhere to welcome him with a toast and a hug.

    If he has fears - hire a security person.

    At least he'd be employing someone.

    That's a positive in his favour - in a skewed sort of way.

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    If he had to emigrate he would have plenty of company.
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
    — Jean-Paul Sartre

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    Quote Originally Posted by musashi View Post
    Good post eloquently put.
    But what about a citizen's rights, surely a person has a right to enter an establishment with the reasonable expectation that his physical safety shall be maintained.
    Is this sort of assault acceptable?
    He might be safer behind bars, where he ought to be.

    If we want to talk about what is and is not acceptable behavior lets talk about what Bertie and his pals did to the country and the people. Not shed crocodile tears over him nearly getting hit with a crutch.


    What was your opinion of Bush getting a shoe thrown at him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    What was your opinion of Bush getting a shoe thrown at him?
    A: that the perpetrator missed.

    B: that it wasn't a truck full of shoes moving at very high speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    What was your opinion of Bush getting a shoe thrown at him?
    The guy should've practiced beforehand.
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    The sad part is that there are people dumb enough to feel sorry for him, sympathy for sharks being the sign of a mark. That he felt safe enough to go out drinking in public is an indictment of the public at large. Funnily enough the very ones most likely to assault him are most likely the ones who were happy to ignore and vote for his chicanery and recklessness in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mowl View Post

    Shatter's right: if he's frightened, then let him fork out for a personal security agent himself.
    I know a place he can live with maximum security.

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    Apparently the crutch came out of it the worse for wear. Aluminium against a brass neck is no contest.

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