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    Or perhaps that should be Palestinian/Israeli movement ...

    It is a hugely important initiative in my opinion and represents the only real way froward.

    Founding statement of the Popular Movement for One Democratic State on the Land of Historical Palestine.


    The catastrophe of the Palestinian people has continued for over a century. This catastrophe began with the Balfour Declaration, issued on November 2, 1917 by the British Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Baron Walter Rothschild, a leader of British Jewry for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland. The Balfour Declaration was followed by the imposed British Mandate for Palestine of 16 September 1922, which denied the Palestinian people their natural right to self-determination and the establishment of their independent state on their national land.

    This catastrophe was aggravated by the disaster of the Nakba of 1948, which resulted in the seizure by Israel of most of the Palestinian territory, the displacement of almost 750 thousand Palestinians, and the establishment of the State of Israel on Palestinian territory. This disaster was then followed by the Israeli aggression of 1967, which resulted in the occupation of the remaining Palestinian territories (the West Bank of Jordan and the Gaza Strip and the Sliver of Hamma) and the displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians from the newly occupied territories. This was accompanied by attempts to obliterate the national Palestinian personality, which represents a depth of civilization and a historical connection of the Palestinian people with their national home.

    International and regional efforts and initiatives followed one another from the early 1930s onwards with the view to finding a just solution to the Palestine Question and to putting an end to the Palestinian-Israeli and Arab-Israeli conflicts. These efforts, however, ended up in failure, due to Zionist intransigence and racialist mind-set, such as do not accept the other, deny the presence of the victim and correlatively hide criminalities committed by Israel. In the shadow of the Oslo Agreement, Israel waged a frenzied settlement campaign to change the fait accompli on the ground and to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. In doing so Israel went to extremes in denying the presence of the Palestinian people and dedicated its own understanding of the territory occupied in 1967 as a disputed territory, not as an occupied territory.

    With the launch of the contemporary Palestinian revolution at January 1, 1965 and the assumption of the leadership of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) by the Palestinian resistance in the year 1968/1969, the Palestinian resistance considered the one democratic state (ODS) on the land of historical (mandatory) Palestine to be a just solution for the Palestine Question. This solution was, however, quickly followed by a transitional solution (i.e. return of the refugees, self-determination, independent state with Jerusalem as its capital), which was then effectively reduced to what was is known as the two-state solution and was in effect predicated on the recognition of the Israeli occupation of the part of Palestine, the part it had occupied in 1948.

    The resumption of the one democratic state solution comes today in the shadow of the occlusion of the political horizon, the failure of all attempts at a fragmented settlement of the Palestine Question, the continuing Israeli seizure of land and “judaization” of Palestinian territories, the denial of the legitimate national rights of the Palestinian people and the reduction of the Palestinian presence into unviable, disconnected and isolated bantustans, thereby making the establishment of an independent and sovereign Palestinian state impossible, rendering the interim self-government arrangements of the Oslo accords into a permanent status.

    Thus, we are experiencing all-embracing and deep crises and a closure of the political horizon under an occupation that costs Israel little, additional to the de facto annexation by Israel of most of Palestinian land, consolidating a single state and a fascist and racist system based on racial discrimination in law (that is, apartheid). Additionally, we now face a new Israeli condition demanding that we recognize the State of Israel as a “Jewish” state in its Zionist interpretation, even without a definition of its borders, implying the writing-off the right of return for 1948 Palestine refugees and opening the way for displacement of our people living in the Palestinian territories occupied by Israel in 1948. All of these enable Israel propel the conflict into a dangerous stage, which forewarns of a bloody explosion and ethnic cleansing, thereby bringing about yet another stage of the kind of human tragedy in which the Palestinian people have been living since the disaster of 1948.

    Faced with this gloomy and bitter situation, establishing a one democratic state on the land of historical (mandatory) Palestine, a democratic state for all its inhabitants, based on a democratic constitution, the values of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which guarantee freedom, democracy and equality of rights without discrimination based on race, religion, gender, colour, language or political or non-political opinion, national or social origin, wealth, place of birth or any other status – establishing this state is, indeed, a just and feasible solution for the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

    Our initiative comes as a continuation of the efforts by the groups that preceded us in conferences and activities held and pursued in different places throughout the world suggesting the establishment of the one democratic state as a solution, with the Munich Declaration as a common denominator.

    Our commitment to the choice of a one democratic state on the land of historical Palestine is based on the following:

    The Palestinian people is one people embracing all of its components: in the territories occupied by Israel in 1948, in the territories occupied by Israel in 1967 and in the refugee camps built in the 1967 occupied territories and in the diaspora. Despite their subjection to different systems and laws, the Palestinian people maintained their unity and their national identity. The Palestinian people living in apartheid Israel are not integrated in Israeli society. After 60 years of attempts to impose upon them co-existence and after subjecting them to ethnic cleansing, they still uphold onto their national identity. At the same time, all Palestinians living in the territories occupied in 1948 and in the 1967 Israeli occupies West Bank and the Gaza Strip resist Israel’s occupation policies, particularly Israeli settlement policies, seizure of land and apartheid measures and policies impinging upon all walks of Palestinian life and implemented by the Israeli occupation forces. Likewise, Palestinian refugees in refugee camps in the diaspora and in foreign countries continue to uphold onto their national affiliation and Palestinian identity, rejecting all plans for resettlement and refusing alternative homelands to their own national home.

    There are universal values to which civilized nations aspire. These represent freedom, justice, equality, democracy and the acceptance of the other, regarding cultural, racial and religious differences as an enrichment for the society, rather than as a cause for racial discrimination. Therefore, all Palestinian strategies of resistance ought to be guided by these values, namely, human rights values, and by the standards of international law and predicate the struggle on this basis.

    Palestine is the place where the religions were revealed. It is not possible for the followers of any one religion to expel the followers of other religions or to attempt to make one of the religions the standard of the political system in Palestine. All systems or strategies of resistance should be based on respect for all religions, including respective religious symbols, places of worship and sacred places as well as encourage religious tolerance and coexistence among the followers of different religions.

    The fundamentals of social justice and equal opportunities for all citizens of the one democratic state, embracing all its ethnic and religious components, fair redistribution of public resources and respect for women and gender equality for women and men in all walks of life are to be cornerstones of this state.

    Jerusalem is the capital of the one democratic state.

    Solution of the refugee problem implementing United Nations General Assembly resolution No. 194 of 1948, by which every Palestinian in the world will have the right to return to Palestine; to recover his/her properties and real estate or receive fair compensation in the event he/she not want to return; to receive fair compensation for the suffering that they have incurred as a result of their displacement from their homeland; and by which every Palestinian internally displaced person (muhajjarun) inside Israel be able return to their villages and properties out of which were expelled in 1948.

    Recovery the rights of 1948 Palestine refugees and Palestinian internally displaced persons does not entail expelling any Jewish family from Palestine, but on the contrary – aims at effecting a historical reconciliation among all inhabitants of Palestine, embracing all their components. We further fully realize that all the other solutions suggested (such as the two-state solution or the confederal solution) do not provide a just solution to the refugee problem, such as guarantees their right of return to the residence from which they were expelled. In fact, some of these solutions barter the establishment of a Palestinian state with the implementation of the return of the refugees to their abode.

    The establishment of one democratic state will be able to provide a solution to the conflict at chore, and address all the elements of the conflict in historical Palestine as well as build a regime based on justice, equality and democracy. A democratic state cannot be an aggressive state, will not be motivated by expansionist greed, and, hence, it will not be in conflict over borders with any neighboring state. Being established on the land of historical Palestine the one democratic state will be an indivisible part of the regional system, cooperating and in harmony with the rest of the regional states, rather than in contradiction or conflict with them.

    One would expect the Zionist movement to refuse this choice because the said movement is based on a racialist and apartheid basis, and on the non-recognition of the other. It is a movement based on colonization, occupation and settlement, predicated on force and suppression.

    The principle of acquisition of territory by force is totally and absolutely rejected. It cannot constitute a basis for an acquired right, individually or collectively. The Zionist colonial settlement in Palestine is, therefore, an illegal settlement and cannot at all be accepted as a fait accompli. Confronting this settlement will be central to the resistance program of this Popular Movement. Further more, the establishment of a one democratic state does not entail marginalizing combating the policies and designs of the Israeli occupation, the cause of the daily suffering of the Palestinian people, highlighted by settlements and land grabs, the “judaization” of Jerusalem and other aggressive actions. In fact, resistance to Israeli occupation settlement policies and the policies and measures of Israeli apartheid is central to the combative program of our Popular Movement.

    In order to achieve a just solution to the Palestinian–Israeli conflict we, the signatories here-under, have decided to declare the launch of “the Popular Movement for One Democratic State on the Land of Historical Palestine” and strive to reach all our people, wherever they live including the general public in Israel, particularly those who have an interest in this choice. The Popular Movement will try to gain the backing and support of all the forces committed to freedom, justice, equality and democracy in our attempts to develop policies and procedures adequate to resisting and putting an end to the Israeli racist system of apartheid and occupation. The success of this choice will, therefore, represent a civilized model for the achievement of peace, co-existence and democracy as well as for solution of conflicts among peoples.
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    This looks excellent. Hopefully they can take the leadership of Palestine away from the semi-quisling Fatah on one hand and the Islamists on the other. On the Israeli side, they should look for the support of all Israelis of vision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    Or perhaps that should be Palestinian/Israeli movement ...

    It is a hugely important initiative in my opinion and represents the only real way froward.

    Founding statement of the Popular Movement for One Democratic State on the Land of Historical Palestine.

    Some background:

    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/orig...-solution.html
    Interesting. Anyone know anything about their background ? If there are no Israelis involved, that would want to change sooner rather than later if it is to develop.


    Jarai said that he and a group of Palestinians met on May 15 and signed a founding declaration that they plan to reprint in Arabic, Hebrew and English and possibly in Russian to encourage all people to join their popular movement. When asked how he responds to Israelis who are ideological Zionists, and want a state as Jewish as France is French and Britain is British, Jarai said: “We want a state for its citizens and we refuse to negate any group based on ethnicity, race or religion.” Jarai said that a group supporting his movement already exists in Jaffa and Haifa in Israel. A conference held last year in Haifa was host ro more than 300 supporters of the one state idea, he said.
    Jarai conceded that his group’s idea is not unique or new. He notes that his group is in touch with an overseas group called One Democratic State. He also is very respectful of Palestinian professor Sari Nusseibeh, whose attempts at speaking on the issue of one state resulted in physical abuse from students at Birzeit University in the 1980s. “We respect Sari and he is a good friend and an inspiration, but when he talked about his idea he was ahead of his time.”
    The former prisoner, who is fluent in Hebrew, insists that he wants the movement to be popular and non-elitist. ”We want to print tens of thousands of copies of our platform and distribute them very widely,” he said in a telephone interview from his Ramallah home. “We also want to establish a radio station that can communicate in both Hebrew and Arabic and maybe in the future we can also set up a satellite station.”


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    Two state illusion. New York Times today:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/15/op...anted=all&_r=0
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    I read somewhere someone describe the decades of two state negotiations as being akin to two people having a discussion on how they will share a slice of pizza while all the while one of them is eating it.
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    I fear that the chances of Israel surrendering any territory, let alone its whole existence is fanciful. Israel exists because it is a Jewish homeland. Without its Jewish and US backers it wouldn't be there.

    The author of this document has no traction (as they say) with either the Palestinian or Israeli people.


    We will only see progress in peace talks when the US, as Israel's sponsor, engages seriously. This may begin when Iran has nuclear weapons or following a change of direction in US attitudes (like the stand-down over Syria). Sadly Nethanyahu and the Zionists will continue eating more and more pizza with the US and Europe passing the chilli sauce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Binn Beal View Post
    I fear that the chances of Israel surrendering any territory, let alone its whole existence is fanciful. Israel exists because it is a Jewish homeland. Without its Jewish and US backers it wouldn't be there.

    The author of this document has no traction (as they say) with either the Palestinian or Israeli people.


    We will only see progress in peace talks when the US, as Israel's sponsor, engages seriously. This may begin when Iran has nuclear weapons or following a change of direction in US attitudes (like the stand-down over Syria). Sadly Nethanyahu and the Zionists will continue eating more and more pizza with the US and Europe passing the chilli sauce.
    Yes, it was Amadinejad/Iran's line for a long time that the solution in Palestine/Israel was a single secular state.

    That is the opposite of what the US want as their whole strategy in the Middle East rests on maintaining sectarian fault lines.

    As well not wanting a single democratic secular state for Palestine, they would fear a domino effect of other states wanting to go back to the same.

    But it seems by far the best solution for everyone, all round, if they could get it.
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    I would note that a one state solution (of sorts) is increasingly being pushed by the Israeli right.

    Their one state would exclude Gaza (to maintain a Jewish majority) and the state would maintain it's Jewish identity. I can't imagine it encompasses the right of return for Palestinians.

    None of this would be acceptable to the Palestinians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    I would note that a one state solution (of sorts) is increasingly being pushed by the Israeli right.

    Their one state would exclude Gaza (to maintain a Jewish majority) and the state would maintain it's Jewish identity. I can't imagine it encompasses the right of return for Palestinians.

    None of this would be acceptable to the Palestinians.
    So it would neither be one state, nor a solution.
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    There will be a single unitary state alright, Eretz Israel, it is the be all and end all of Israeli intentions. A defeated West Bank Palestinian population with the non-compliant Palestinians excluded/killed/exiled, increasingly monitored by new levels of Orwellian technology/security will be absorbed into a permanently expanded security zone, with a pseudo-unitary state solution being the end goal.

    The current position of the internal Palestinian population in Israel proper will be the template for the control of the new Palestinian population in the conquered territories of Eretz Israel..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Binn Beal View Post
    I fear that the chances of Israel surrendering any territory, let alone its whole existence is fanciful. Israel exists because it is a Jewish homeland. Without its Jewish and US backers it wouldn't be there.

    The author of this document has no traction (as they say) with either the Palestinian or Israeli people.


    We will only see progress in peace talks when the US, as Israel's sponsor, engages seriously. This may begin when Iran has nuclear weapons or following a change of direction in US attitudes (like the stand-down over Syria). Sadly Nethanyahu and the Zionists will continue eating more and more pizza with the US and Europe passing the chilli sauce.
    Well, the problem is that the extent of settlement has rendered a two state solution impossible at this stage. So where do you go? The no state solution is not tenable in the long run.

    The big questions is really "What is the future of the Zionist project?" It has been in existence for over half a century and has failed to convince even a majority of the Jewish population of the world that they should go and live in this homeland. There are nearly as many Jews living in the USA and they generally feel entirely American and very much at home in the USA and under no particular threat. This population is increasingly becoming estranged from the State of Israel as it becomes increasingly identified with racism, oppression, apartheid policies etc.
    American Jews are also becoming increasingly assimilated (if that is the right word) through marrying non-Jews etc.

    So there is a demographics problem for the Zionists. Where will the Jews they need to keep the Palestinians outnumbered come from? Russia provided a temporary reprieve but that is exhausted. Will there be further ethnic cleansing to solve this problem?

    At the same time the youth of Israel are becoming increasingly disenchanted. I have seen a survey of high school students that indicated a majority would choose to live abroad if they could.

    Of course, the state of Israel could struggle along for decades but thinking Jewish people have to be considering "What is the long term prognosis for the project? Has it been successful in any way? i.e What has it achieved?"

    It could also collapse very quickly as the apartheid regime in South Africa did. Particularly if their is a growing international campaign of boycott, disinvestment, etc.

    There is no reason while a single secular state could not remain a homeland for the Jewish people in the sense of providing (for those interested) a placed linked to their past and where the Jewish community would comprise a very large segment of the overall population (it is miniscule in other countries ... even the USA) which would assist in preserving their culture, traditions, etc. It does not necessarily have to be a Jewish State. The argument that the state of Israel currently provides some safe haven for Jews is a nonsense. Israel is probably the most unsafe and unsecure place in the world for a Jewish person to live. Also, Zionism is probably the main motivation of antisemitism in the world today. Thinking Jews also have to consider this.

    The authors of the document are not asking anyone to "surrender territory" but to share the place on a secular, democratic basis. It seems to me to be the only way forward.
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    The catastrophe of the Palestinian people has continued for over a century. This catastrophe began with the Balfour Declaration, issued on November 2, 1917 by the British Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Baron Walter Rothschild, a leader of British Jewry for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland. The Balfour Declaration was followed by the imposed British Mandate for Palestine of 16 September 1922, which denied the Palestinian people their natural right to self-determination and the establishment of their independent state on their national land.

    This catastrophe was aggravated by the disaster of the Nakba of 1948, which resulted in the seizure by Israel of most of the Palestinian territory, the displacement of almost 750 thousand Palestinians, and the establishment of the State of Israel on Palestinian territory. This disaster was then followed by the Israeli aggression of 1967, which resulted in the occupation of the remaining Palestinian territories (the West Bank of Jordan and the Gaza Strip and the Sliver of Hamma) and the displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians from the newly occupied territories. This was accompanied by attempts to obliterate the national Palestinian personality, which represents a depth of civilization and a historical connection of the Palestinian people with their national home.

    International and regional efforts and initiatives followed one another from the early 1930s onwards with the view to finding a just solution to the Palestine Question and to putting an end to the Palestinian-Israeli and Arab-Israeli conflicts. These efforts, however, ended up in failure, due to Zionist intransigence and racialist mind-set, such as do not accept the other, deny the presence of the victim and correlatively hide criminalities committed by Israel. In the shadow of the Oslo Agreement, Israel waged a frenzied settlement campaign to change the fait accompli on the ground and to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. In doing so Israel went to extremes in denying the presence of the Palestinian people and dedicated its own understanding of the territory occupied in 1967 as a disputed territory, not as an occupied territory.

    With the launch of the contemporary Palestinian revolution at January 1, 1965 and the assumption of the leadership of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) by the Palestinian resistance in the year 1968/1969, the Palestinian resistance considered the one democratic state (ODS) on the land of historical (mandatory) Palestine to be a just solution for the Palestine Question. This solution was, however, quickly followed by a transitional solution (i.e. return of the refugees, self-determination, independent state with Jerusalem as its capital), which was then effectively reduced to what was is known as the two-state solution and was in effect predicated on the recognition of the Israeli occupation of the part of Palestine, the part it had occupied in 1948.

    The resumption of the one democratic state solution comes today in the shadow of the occlusion of the political horizon, the failure of all attempts at a fragmented settlement of the Palestine Question, the continuing Israeli seizure of land and “judaization” of Palestinian territories, the denial of the legitimate national rights of the Palestinian people and the reduction of the Palestinian presence into unviable, disconnected and isolated bantustans, thereby making the establishment of an independent and sovereign Palestinian state impossible, rendering the interim self-government arrangements of the Oslo accords into a permanent status.

    Thus, we are experiencing all-embracing and deep crises and a closure of the political horizon under an occupation that costs Israel little, additional to the de facto annexation by Israel of most of Palestinian land, consolidating a single state and a fascist and racist system based on racial discrimination in law (that is, apartheid). Additionally, we now face a new Israeli condition demanding that we recognize the State of Israel as a “Jewish” state in its Zionist interpretation, even without a definition of its borders, implying the writing-off the right of return for 1948 Palestine refugees and opening the way for displacement of our people living in the Palestinian territories occupied by Israel in 1948. All of these enable Israel propel the conflict into a dangerous stage, which forewarns of a bloody explosion and ethnic cleansing, thereby bringing about yet another stage of the kind of human tragedy in which the Palestinian people have been living since the disaster of 1948.

    Faced with this gloomy and bitter situation, establishing a one democratic state on the land of historical (mandatory) Palestine, a democratic state for all its inhabitants, based on a democratic constitution, the values of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which guarantee freedom, democracy and equality of rights without discrimination based on race, religion, gender, colour, language or political or non-political opinion, national or social origin, wealth, place of birth or any other status – establishing this state is, indeed, a just and feasible solution for the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

    Our initiative comes as a continuation of the efforts by the groups that preceded us in conferences and activities held and pursued in different places throughout the world suggesting the establishment of the one democratic state as a solution, with the Munich Declaration as a common denominator.

    Our commitment to the choice of a one democratic state on the land of historical Palestine is based on the following:

    The Palestinian people is one people embracing all of its components: in the territories occupied by Israel in 1948, in the territories occupied by Israel in 1967 and in the refugee camps built in the 1967 occupied territories and in the diaspora. Despite their subjection to different systems and laws, the Palestinian people maintained their unity and their national identity. The Palestinian people living in apartheid Israel are not integrated in Israeli society. After 60 years of attempts to impose upon them co-existence and after subjecting them to ethnic cleansing, they still uphold onto their national identity. At the same time, all Palestinians living in the territories occupied in 1948 and in the 1967 Israeli occupies West Bank and the Gaza Strip resist Israel’s occupation policies, particularly Israeli settlement policies, seizure of land and apartheid measures and policies impinging upon all walks of Palestinian life and implemented by the Israeli occupation forces. Likewise, Palestinian refugees in refugee camps in the diaspora and in foreign countries continue to uphold onto their national affiliation and Palestinian identity, rejecting all plans for resettlement and refusing alternative homelands to their own national home.

    There are universal values to which civilized nations aspire. These represent freedom, justice, equality, democracy and the acceptance of the other, regarding cultural, racial and religious differences as an enrichment for the society, rather than as a cause for racial discrimination. Therefore, all Palestinian strategies of resistance ought to be guided by these values, namely, human rights values, and by the standards of international law and predicate the struggle on this basis.

    Palestine is the place where the religions were revealed. It is not possible for the followers of any one religion to expel the followers of other religions or to attempt to make one of the religions the standard of the political system in Palestine. All systems or strategies of resistance should be based on respect for all religions, including respective religious symbols, places of worship and sacred places as well as encourage religious tolerance and coexistence among the followers of different religions.

    The fundamentals of social justice and equal opportunities for all citizens of the one democratic state, embracing all its ethnic and religious components, fair redistribution of public resources and respect for women and gender equality for women and men in all walks of life are to be cornerstones of this state.

    Jerusalem is the capital of the one democratic state.

    Solution of the refugee problem implementing United Nations General Assembly resolution No. 194 of 1948, by which every Palestinian in the world will have the right to return to Palestine; to recover his/her properties and real estate or receive fair compensation in the event he/she not want to return; to receive fair compensation for the suffering that they have incurred as a result of their displacement from their homeland; and by which every Palestinian internally displaced person (muhajjarun) inside Israel be able return to their villages and properties out of which were expelled in 1948.

    Recovery the rights of 1948 Palestine refugees and Palestinian internally displaced persons does not entail expelling any Jewish family from Palestine, but on the contrary – aims at effecting a historical reconciliation among all inhabitants of Palestine, embracing all their components. We further fully realize that all the other solutions suggested (such as the two-state solution or the confederal solution) do not provide a just solution to the refugee problem, such as guarantees their right of return to the residence from which they were expelled. In fact, some of these solutions barter the establishment of a Palestinian state with the implementation of the return of the refugees to their abode.

    The establishment of one democratic state will be able to provide a solution to the conflict at chore, and address all the elements of the conflict in historical Palestine as well as build a regime based on justice, equality and democracy. A democratic state cannot be an aggressive state, will not be motivated by expansionist greed, and, hence, it will not be in conflict over borders with any neighboring state. Being established on the land of historical Palestine the one democratic state will be an indivisible part of the regional system, cooperating and in harmony with the rest of the regional states, rather than in contradiction or conflict with them.

    One would expect the Zionist movement to refuse this choice because the said movement is based on a racialist and apartheid basis, and on the non-recognition of the other. It is a movement based on colonization, occupation and settlement, predicated on force and suppression.

    The principle of acquisition of territory by force is totally and absolutely rejected. It cannot constitute a basis for an acquired right, individually or collectively. The Zionist colonial settlement in Palestine is, therefore, an illegal settlement and cannot at all be accepted as a fait accompli. Confronting this settlement will be central to the resistance program of this Popular Movement. Further more, the establishment of a one democratic state does not entail marginalizing combating the policies and designs of the Israeli occupation, the cause of the daily suffering of the Palestinian people, highlighted by settlements and land grabs, the “judaization” of Jerusalem and other aggressive actions. In fact, resistance to Israeli occupation settlement policies and the policies and measures of Israeli apartheid is central to the combative program of our Popular Movement.

    In order to achieve a just solution to the Palestinian–Israeli conflict we, the signatories here-under, have decided to declare the launch of “the Popular Movement for One Democratic State on the Land of Historical Palestine” and strive to reach all our people, wherever they live including the general public in Israel, particularly those who have an interest in this choice. The Popular Movement will try to gain the backing and support of all the forces committed to freedom, justice, equality and democracy in our attempts to develop policies and procedures adequate to resisting and putting an end to the Israeli racist system of apartheid and occupation. The success of this choice will, therefore, represent a civilized model for the achievement of peace, co-existence and democracy as well as for solution of conflicts among peoples.
    The above is so hostile to Israel that I doubt it is a genuine attempt at co-existence never mind reconciliation. Just another attempt to bamboozle people into supporting the annihilation of Israel. Any serious attempt at conflict solving does not start off by trying to demonise the other side.
    So to be blunt but polite about it........it is codswallop.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord}
    Some background:

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    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/orig...-solution.html[/url]
    and in the interests of balance I am sure no one will mind me posting some other sources of background information.

    http://www.standwithus.com/booklets/25Answers/

    http://www.standwithus.com/booklets/...partheidToday/

    http://www.standwithus.com/booklets/JRME_US/

    more here: http://jcpa.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

    Now I don't know what the solution to Israel/Palestine will be and I like to think I am just pro-people but the anti-Israel and hostility to Jews herd mentality on the political left in Ireland really sickens me.
    and I know that wont make me popular here but so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eamo View Post
    The above is so hostile to Israel that I doubt it is a genuine attempt at co-existence never mind reconciliation. Just another attempt to bamboozle people into supporting the annihilation of Israel. Any serious attempt at conflict solving does not start off by trying to demonise the other side.
    So to be blunt but polite about it........it is codswallop.



    and in the interests of balance I am sure no one will mind me posting some other sources of background information.

    http://www.standwithus.com/booklets/25Answers/

    http://www.standwithus.com/booklets/...partheidToday/

    http://www.standwithus.com/booklets/JRME_US/

    more here: http://jcpa.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

    Now I don't know what the solution to Israel/Palestine will be and I like to think I am just pro-people but the anti-Israel and hostility to Jews herd mentality on the political left in Ireland really sickens me.
    and I know that wont make me popular here but so be it.
    I like to think I'm pro-people too. I'm against anti-Jewish and anti-Arab attitudes. Surely you are not suggesting that everyone in favour of a single secular state is anti-semitic?
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
    — Jean-Paul Sartre

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    Quote Originally Posted by eamo View Post
    Now I don't know what the solution to Israel/Palestine will be and I like to think I am just pro-people but the anti-Israel and hostility to Jews herd mentality on the political left in Ireland really sickens me.
    Sad really.

    You have no solution to suggest but simply attack people working for a just one as being antisemetic. You share a mindest that only serves to maintain ongoing conflict.

    But back to the topic :

    useful article from the Washington Post some time back:

    A de facto one-state reality has emerged, with Israel effectively ruling virtually all of the former Palestine. Yet only Jews enjoy full rights in this functionally unitary political system. In contrast, Palestinian citizens of Israel endure more than 35 laws that explicitly privilege Jews as well as policies that deliberately marginalize them.
    Palestinian refugees have lived in exile for 62 years, their right to return to their homes denied, while Jews from anywhere can freely immigrate to Israel.
    The answer is for Israelis and Palestinians to formalize their de facto one-state reality but on principles of equal rights rather than ethnic privilege. A carefully crafted multiyear transition including mechanisms for reconciliation would be mandatory. Israel/Palestine should have a secular, bilingual government elected on the basis of one person, one vote as well as strong constitutional guarantees of equality and protection of minorities, bolstered by international guarantees. Immigration should follow nondiscriminatory criteria. Civil marriage between members of different ethnic or religious groups should be permitted. Citizens should be free to reside in any part of the country, and public symbols, education and holidays should reflect the population's diversity.
    The main obstacle to a single-state solution is the belief that Israel must be a Jewish state. Jim Crow laws and South African apartheid were similarly entrenched virtually until the eves of their demise. History suggests that no version of ethnic privilege can ultimately persist in a multiethnic society.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...090204665.html
    Do not rejoice in his defeat, you men. For though the world has stood up and stopped the bastard, the (female dog) that bore him is in heat again. Bertolt Brecht

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    Eamo: hostility to Jews herd mentality on the political left in Ireland really sickens me.
    I'm amazed at this comment Eamo. I have never heard, seen, read or observed any anti-Jewish attitude among Irish lefties in any party, current or extinct over many, many years of activism. You must have some examples to point out if it is at the point of sickening you.

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