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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    Marching by crowds, fine. Overthrow of a democratically elected government by a military coup? Fascism.
    They have suspended the constitution too
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    Live coverage from Al Jazeera there. Coup complete.
    http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/

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    http://www.thejournal.ie/egypt-army-...77335-Jul2013/

    Morsi gone, opposition have met and tight schedule for elections...
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    Tanks in the middle of Cairo and Morsi has been told to step down. It seems very likely the MB will fight, understandably, against a military coup.

    The crowds that have been protesting over the last weeks have ranged from pro Mubarak people to the far left. There is an unholy pro-secularist alliance, and Morsi although clear winner in the elections, does not represent the majority of the population.

    This is part of a much wider world crisis. The last 30 or more years of credit fuelled expansion is juddering into collapse and leaving a large middle class that has in most cases no perspective beyond an unachievable prosperous, uncorrupt and democratic capitalism. They have absolutely no solutions based in reality and no capacity to face down austerity. They are capable of utopian "occupations" one day, and ushering in a military coup the next.

    The only way they would be involved in achieving real change would be to ally themselves with the working class and its organisations and remake society from top to bottom on a non-profit basis. The left itself has to some extent been sucked along in the wake of the middle class, in the west, and has abandoned its identity and purpose, social transformation, in favour of endless one-off projects and electoral delusions.
    Last edited by C. Flower; 03-07-2013 at 08:26 PM.
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    Am I right in thinking it's all counter revolution till these guys are shot



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    Baradei speaking now....there will be elections after a period during which the Constitution will be amended. Hmm.

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    Move on, nothing to see here. The Yanks have been training Egypt officers for decades for good reason... to make sure nothing too exciting's gonna happen there, certainly no "much wider world crisis".
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    Amazing timing

    U S stock market closed early today and all day tomorrow
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    The crowds in Brazil were of similar character.

    Massive celebrations. Would not like to predict how long the happiness will last.

    In Ireland the Catholic population celebrated the British army going in.

    The Head of the Constitutional Court appointed interim President by the Armed Forces.

    Another US backed coup.

    The Left and radical youth organisations never accepted Morsi and the MB, and lacked the patience to work to build up support, and build organisations that could displace the MB without army involvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TotalMayhem View Post
    Move on, nothing to see here. The Yanks have been training Egypt officers for decades for good reason... to make sure nothing too exciting's gonna happen there, certainly no "much wider world crisis".
    Sorry, but, where is there "No crisis" ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. FIVE View Post
    Am I right in thinking it's all counter revolution till these guys are shot


    Until there is something to replace them with, after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Until there is something to replace them with, after that.
    Goldman Sachs must have someone in mind
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    Seemingly it is not a coup

    If it was a coup, the US could not legally give military aid
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    if it was a coup, the US could not legally give military aid
    The US and legally???

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    @EgyPresidency still tweeting.
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