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    Default Egypt - Revolution or Military Dictatorship ? -/Death Penalty for 722 announced

    Millions of Egyptians are on the streets again today in Cairo and Alexandria, in what has been reported to be the biggest demonstration ever held on the planet, against the Presidency of Morsi, of the Muslim Brotherhood.

    There is a smaller counter demonstration, pro Morsi, of millions, in Nasri City.

    Egyptians are struggling under an IMF programme, with an undeveloped and dysfunctional economy.

    The army has issued a statement giving Morsi 48 hours to step down.

    • The armed forces repeat their call for the people's demands to be met and give everyone 48 hours as a last chance to shoulder the burden of the historic moment that is happening in the nation, which will not forgive or tolerate any party that is lax in shouldering its responsibility.
    • The armed forces put everyone on notice that if the demands of the people are not realised in the given time period, it will be obliged by its patriotic and historic responsibilities and by its respect for the demands of the great Egyptian people to announce a road map for the future and the steps for overseeing its implementation, with participation of all patriotic and
    sincere parties and movements - including the youth, who set off the glorious revolution and continue to do so - without excluding anyone.


    Egyptian people have learned to take to the streets and use their weight of numbers to exert their choice, rather than rely on parliamentary elections. Morsi won the election, but with a minority of the vote, and has ignore repeatedly the message that he must respect the wider populations wishes.

    Egypt is at an impasse, its economy not functioning, incomes at starvation levels, with collapsed services and a huge amount of corruption, with which people are exasperated.

    The current establishment has no solutions and at this stage the opposition appears not to have definite alternative: the risk of a military junta is therefore high.
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    US Generals talking to Egyptian Generals today -

    http://money.msn.com/business-news/a...01&id=16658616
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    What precisely is the protestors' beef, or is it a mish-mash of general discontents, economic and suchlike?

    My first thought on this stuff was that democracy and the rule of law should be followed here, and army threats are not good.
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    There's an apparent coup underway against the democratically elected government.

    Surprised there isn't more on this here..
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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    There's an apparent coup underway against the democratically elected government.

    Surprised there isn't more on this here..
    Millions marching against a government, last time I checked that was also democratic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffybiscuits View Post
    Millions marching against a government, last time I checked that was also democratic?
    Last time I looked ...... that was NAZI Germany.
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    Mohamed Mustafa ElBaradei ........ roving ambassador ...... for the CIA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riposte View Post
    Last time I looked ...... that was NAZI Germany.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velvet_Revolution

    What about the 1916 rising? THe British let us vote didnt they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffybiscuits View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velvet_Revolution

    What about the 1916 rising? THe British let us vote didnt they?
    What are you talking about? ......... The Brits were foreign invaders ....... whose invading Egypt? ....... other than the CIA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riposte View Post
    What are you talking about? ......... The Brits were foreign invaders ....... whose invading Egypt? ....... other than the CIA.

    If people feel oppressed they will rise up. That is what happened in Ireland, any form of oppression whether it be imperialist, colonial or civil is fought against...Czech rep illustrates that
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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffybiscuits View Post
    Millions marching against a government, last time I checked that was also democratic?
    Marching by crowds, fine. Overthrow of a democratically elected government by a military coup? Fascism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    Marching by crowds, fine. Overthrow of a democratically elected government by a military coup? Fascism.
    Ah yeah Toxic ....... but the passion for Democracy is malleable around here ...... and it must be approved via the "correct" ...... "group think."
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    Quote Originally Posted by riposte View Post
    Ah yeah Toxic ....... but the passion for Democracy is malleable around here ...... and it must be approved via the "correct" ...... "group think."
    Group think? Like Republicanism?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by riposte View Post
    Mohamed Mustafa ElBaradei ........ roving ambassador ...... for the CIA.
    ElBaradei was flown in by the US in the middle of the spring 2010 events in Egypt, but could not get any support for his move to take the leadership then.
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    Newly available 30 page report on Egypt.


    US-EGYPT RELATIONS, AND MORE FROM CRS

    New and newly updated publications from the Congressional Research Service that Congress has withheld from online public access include the following.

    Egypt: Background and U.S. Relations, updated June 27, 2013


    Also, don't attack our embassy.
    U.S. Marines in Europe Getting Ready for Egyptian Chaos

    Some of the 500 Marines belonging to the Corps' Special-Purpose Marine Air-Ground Task Force Crisis Response Team have been moved from Moron, Spain to Sigonella, Italy to be closer to Egypt should things go very wrong there, Stars and Stripes reports this morning.

    "The reason we are here is to provide a scalable force to respond to unexpected crisis," Maj. Zane Crawford, the task force's operations officer, said in a USMC release in May. "We can rapidly deploy to support missions, such as embassy reinforcement, tactical recovery of aircraft, and personnel and noncombatant evacuation operations."

    Citing unnamed sources, CNN reported last week that the Marines have been told to be ready to be airborne in 60 minutes after deployment orders, but Army Col. Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman, wouldn't confirm, saying the military doesn't comment on specific readiness postures."

    The U.S. Embassy in Cairo has been closed since Sunday.
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