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    With thousands of Loyalist/Orange feet to take to the streets this evening there has been calls for a peaceful marching season. While G8 was held and the 6 Counties boasted as a model for peace sectarian tensions manifested itself with petrol bombs over the so called ''peace walls'' at interfaces across Belfast City.

    Tonight's annual parade billed as the ''Tour of the North'' will see restrictions in Belfast following a parades commission ruling. This has been met with anger from certain quarters namely the Orange Order with cries of "vindictive and draconian". Continuing... The Parades Commission are making a mockery of a shared future and by their continued legalising of selective apartheid they are dismantling the framework that was being constructed around a shared city. unquote.

    Ulster Unionist MLA's have joined in with a chorus of Quote... Mark Cosgrove, of the Ulster Unionist Party, said he is "extremely disappointed" that the commission has endorsed its determination.

    He said: "Considering most of my evidence was new this seems utterly bizarre.

    "The Ulster Unionist Party accepts that the Commissions job is not easy, but having given evidence for nearly four hours over two days and for the parade to be still subject to three separate restrictions only further enhances the negativity with which the Commission is regarded by many in the broad Unionist community." unquote.

    Quote.. Secretary of State Theresa Villiers said: "The whole world has seen the tremendous progress that Northern Ireland has made since the political settlement was reached 15 years ago, and Northern Ireland has shown the world that it is open for business.

    "It would be a terrible shame if that powerful message was lost as new images of riots or violence were beamed around the world over the next few weeks. unquote.

    Matt Baggot [PSNI Chief] once again is hoping for the best but preparing for the worst. I think this situation has the potential to explode eggs on many faces after the G8 lies.
    Much more detail here... http://www.u.tv/News/Tour-of-the-Nor...b-e2807aa27ddd

    The Orange Order is suggesting that their recent ''template'' has been ignored.. Quote. "However, the silence in response to the comprehensive template suggested by the Orange Institution is deafening. This is fuelling the increasing anger and frustration of the Unionist and Loyalist communities.

    "How many times do we all have to say sorry and how many times will our sincere attempts at pacifying a sensitive and volatile situation be thrown back in our faces?" unquote. Orange Order template story here.. http://www.u.tv/news/Order-issues-te...c-8cb9da8e31e9

    In words and pictures i give you the Marching Season.
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    Wonder have I missed their usual pilgrimage down to my neck of the woods... (Drogheda). They come down to the site of the Battle of the Boyne every year and also take water from the river in order to - guess what - pour it on the roads so they can march across it.

    When it's not infested with the sash folk the site of the Battle of the Boyne is really very nice and worth a visit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    Wonder have I missed their usual pilgrimage down to my neck of the woods... (Drogheda). They come down to the site of the Battle of the Boyne every year and also take water from the river in order to - guess what - pour it on the roads so they can march across it.
    Crossing Boyne Water. A kind of ritual they perform before parades. Some of the ''Myth'' surrounding the Battle of the Boyne is addressed here.. http://goireland.about.com/od/histor...battlemyth.htm

    As Derry City is this years ''UK City of Culture'' The Orange Order are sending their top 3 men for a ''flagship parade'' More detail here about that in ''Orange News''
    http://www.grandorangelodge.co.uk/ne...3#.UcRLyfk3vRw And here... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-22982835

    Derry as we know is well documented for it's involvement in the Williamite Wars. The Siege of Derry for example. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Derry

    Tonight, of all nights, [being the much more glorious Solstice ] there's a massive invasion of my small predominantly Nationalist/Republican South Derry town by 48 tribal bands. http://www.paradescommission.org/parades/?parade=43912

    Toying with numbers to minimise perception on inpact it is stated that there will be around 500 participants in the ''Tour of the North'' parade at this venue. That equates at around 10 members per band on average. More like 20-50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trow View Post
    Crossing Boyne Water. A kind of ritual they perform before parades. Some of the ''Myth'' surrounding the Battle of the Boyne is addressed here.. http://goireland.about.com/od/histor...battlemyth.htm

    As Derry City is this years ''UK City of Culture'' The Orange Order are sending their top 3 men for a ''flagship parade'' More detail here about that in ''Orange News''
    http://www.grandorangelodge.co.uk/ne...3#.UcRLyfk3vRw And here... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-22982835

    Derry as we know is well documented for it's involvement in the Williamite Wars. The Siege of Derry for example. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Derry

    Tonight, of all nights, [being the much more glorious Solstice ] there's a massive invasion of my small predominantly Nationalist/Republican South Derry town by 48 tribal bands. http://www.paradescommission.org/parades/?parade=43912

    Toying with numbers to minimise perception on inpact it is stated that there will be around 500 participants in the ''Tour of the North'' parade at this venue. That equates at around 10 members per band on average. More like 20-50.
    48 bands and 100 supporters in Kilrea? Jesus Christ.

    As usual, the parade will go just beyond the points which would allow cars to bypass the slime.

    Must leave now, don't want to miss out on my usual spot on Coleraine Street, it'll be packed to............no wat, it will be empty and everyone who lives there will be corralled in their homes, unable to hear themselves think.

    That's what you get when there are no protests.

    Time they all sodded off back to whatever stone they crawled out from under in Harpur's Hill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trow View Post
    Crossing Boyne Water. A kind of ritual they perform before parades. Some of the ''Myth'' surrounding the Battle of the Boyne is addressed here.. http://goireland.about.com/od/histor...battlemyth.htm

    As Derry City is this years ''UK City of Culture'' The Orange Order are sending their top 3 men for a ''flagship parade'' More detail here about that in ''Orange News''
    http://www.grandorangelodge.co.uk/ne...3#.UcRLyfk3vRw And here... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-22982835

    Derry as we know is well documented for it's involvement in the Williamite Wars. The Siege of Derry for example. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Derry

    Tonight, of all nights, [being the much more glorious Solstice ] there's a massive invasion of my small predominantly Nationalist/Republican South Derry town by 48 tribal bands. http://www.paradescommission.org/parades/?parade=43912

    Toying with numbers to minimise perception on inpact it is stated that there will be around 500 participants in the ''Tour of the North'' parade at this venue. That equates at around 10 members per band on average. More like 20-50.
    Quote Originally Posted by 5intheface View Post
    48 bands and 100 supporters in Kilrea? Jesus Christ.

    As usual, the parade will go just beyond the points which would allow cars to bypass the slime.

    Must leave now, don't want to miss out on my usual spot on Coleraine Street, it'll be packed to............no wat, it will be empty and everyone who lives there will be corralled in their homes, unable to hear themselves think.

    That's what you get when there are no protests.

    Time they all sodded off back to whatever stone they crawled out from under in Harpur's Hill.
    I just plough on about my business and in the past found myself walking right through their parade. Not my home town but agree with you when i say the parade is nothing less than a walkover.
    An event that occurs and was originated as an act of militant assembly and cry of no surrender originating from the days of Republican Hunger Strike in 1981.
    It's cat and mouse protest today. Some might even say it's ''Mickey Mouse stuff'' keeping Republican Flags flying on Coleraine Street.

    At the corner, were Danny Cassidy lived and on the street were he was gunned down, Republican flags fly most of the year round. Not unusual for the PSNI and others to remove them prior to parades. Not unusual in times i've stood there to hear Paramilitary bands strike up the tune ''Danny Boy'' as they passed his home.

    I think there are those in Coleraine Street and elsewhere who are afraid to put their heads up less they meet a similar fate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcHQ27S8VDI

    I recall two whole bands suddenly stopping playing music and miss drum beat as i suddenly emerged from a side street during one parade. I did'nt deliberately intend to step out on a UVF and UDA band from my own home town but it was a moment i can tell you. I moved here to get away from the likes of them. Been trying to kill me for years and i suddenly presented myself.

    I'm fortunate enough to live well off the marching route but it does'nt stop encounters with nasty PSNI and travelling tough guys in other places.
    I'm off now, time for some Solstice libation and freedom of cultural practice amongst the Rowan, Ash, Oak and Thorn, by the East flowing stream. All being well i'll conjure up a rain and maybe some thunder and lightening of a different kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trow View Post
    All being well i'll conjure up a rain and maybe some thunder and lightening of a different kind.
    It worked Trow, lashing now, all we need is a big bar of soap for the tramps.

    I wrote here before of one of these mini-twelfths which I wasn't aware of. I was living at the bottom of Coleraine Street at the time and in order to get the young fella from the golf course I had to head towards Coleraine, swing in at The Mullan, come back into Kilrea on the Garvagh road, out Blackrock to Drumagarner, over by Moneysallin and Lisnagrot and into the village that way. A round trip of 18 miles instead of one mile but on the way back, luckily enonugh they were finishing up and I was able to sneak up Maghera Street. The parade was just ending and there must have been about 15 people there to see the bands. 3 1/2 hours for the benefit of a handful of hardcore loons. Stopped and questioned several times en route, the overtime bill for cops and soldiers must have been huge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5intheface View Post
    It worked Trow, lashing now, all we need is a big bar of soap for the tramps.

    I wrote here before of one of these mini-twelfths which I wasn't aware of. I was living at the bottom of Coleraine Street at the time and in order to get the young fella from the golf course I had to head towards Coleraine, swing in at The Mullan, come back into Kilrea on the Garvagh road, out Blackrock to Drumagarner, over by Moneysallin and Lisnagrot and into the village that way. A round trip of 18 miles instead of one mile but on the way back, luckily enonugh they were finishing up and I was able to sneak up Maghera Street. The parade was just ending and there must have been about 15 people there to see the bands. 3 1/2 hours for the benefit of a handful of hardcore loons. Stopped and questioned several times en route, the overtime bill for cops and soldiers must have been huge.
    All over here now. One casualty, minor injuries to the face between a grown up parade supporter against Nationalist youth. Cops waded in once the hurly sticks were produced. Happened in the Diamond outside the ice cream shop.
    Did'nt rain hard enough. Quite a noise round town, i could hear it from the fields. As usual the PSNI took up position at every gap in the hedge rows or local short cut.
    I've learned about those motoring detours and you're right how the whole town gets disrupted. A guy can't even get a Chinese delivered until after 10pm.
    Elsewhere, there was minor trouble in Belfast but the night is a pup.
    Yeah, the cost will mount for the policing operation but i guess that has to be weighed against civil liberties. The big question is...''Who's?''
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    Two arrested in Belfast amidst breaches of parades commission rulings. A snippet of video and full details here.. http://www.u.tv/News/Arrests-follow-...e-0950509644c8

    Quote.. The pair, a 20-year-old man and a 16-year-old boy, were detained for disorderly behaviour and provocative conduct respectively following Friday's Tour of the North parade.

    Around 1,000 people and 15 loyalist bands took part in the event which began at 7pm on Friday.

    The bands played hymns past St Patrick's Catholic Church on Donegall Street and a small number of people took part in a coinciding protest.

    But bands are understood to have continued playing music while passing through the nationalist area, breaching a Parades Commission determination.

    Police say a small number of youths attempted to run through the bands as they made their way up Peter's Hill. unquote.
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    Slightly premature Indo story...note the url:
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...-29363748.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trow View Post
    Two arrested in Belfast amidst breaches of parades commission rulings. A snippet of video and full details here.. http://www.u.tv/News/Arrests-follow-...e-0950509644c8

    Quote.. The pair, a 20-year-old man and a 16-year-old boy, were detained for disorderly behaviour and provocative conduct respectively following Friday's Tour of the North parade.

    Around 1,000 people and 15 loyalist bands took part in the event which began at 7pm on Friday.

    The bands played hymns past St Patrick's Catholic Church on Donegall Street and a small number of people took part in a coinciding protest.

    But bands are understood to have continued playing music while passing through the nationalist area, breaching a Parades Commission determination.

    Police say a small number of youths attempted to run through the bands as they made their way up Peter's Hill. unquote.
    I see Gerry Kelly got stuck in...

    “Following the Tour of the North parade, in which there were numerous breaches of the Parades Commission determination by a number of bands, there was a confrontation at the Peters Hill end of Carrickhill where loyalists had attacked nationalist homes.

    During this time a 16 year old was arrested. Acting on behalf of his parents I approached the PSNI jeeps in which he was held and asked to talk to the senior officer. We were told that this would happen if we moved aside. We did so yet the landrovers sped off.

    I stopped the third PSNI landrover and demanded to speak to someone in charge. The driver moved the landrover into me forcing to hold on to a security grill on the vehicle when they drove off at speed taking me with them for a considerable distance."

    Gerry Kelly MLA


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    @ SDG, Yeah, heard about the Gerry incident last night.
    In todays news... Quote. Sinn Fein Culture Minister Carál Ní Chuilín has been injured in an incident involving a police Land Rover, after a contentious Orange march in Belfast.

    Sinn Fein said she was hit by the PSNI vehicle as she came to the aid of her party colleague Gerry Kelly. unquote. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-23008892

    The Ombudsman is investigating. So that's the marching season kicked off proper. Winston Irvine of the North and West Belfast bands forum [UVF front]is claiming Republicans attacked their parade. Not off to a great start are we?
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    There's talk....... Seems this tour of the North via Carrick Hill is set to become the new Ardoyne shop front. For the record, this kicked off with an attack on the annual Henry Joy Mc Cracken band parade in the area last year and noted on this forum. http://ardoynerepublican.blogspot.co...-attacked.html And in pictures.. http://www.demotix.com/news/1421301/...#media-1421250

    ''Peters Hill'' [mentioned in posts above] is the ''No mans land'' of West Belfast. A dodgy interface were you are most likely to get your head crushed by a breeze block on any day of the week as it funnels into the lower Shankill Road.

    Henry Joy is at rest in a small walled cemetery nearby. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Joy_McCracken You might recall the balcony appearance of senior UVF members at Clifton Street Orange Hall during the stone throwing incident previously.Here .. http://www.demotix.com/news/1421301/...#media-1421237 And... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-19465842
    No mention of a Henry Joy parade this year. Why's that i wonder? Wake me up in September. Can i go so far as to quote Sinn Fein President Gerry Adams when he said @ Good Friday Agreement... ''This Country is sick and it needs a cure.''

    I think it's time someone seperated the facts from myth and religion from politics. In my life i've never seen a sensible/responsible studio debate involving those involved on either side. There's always the ''third man'' counter party ad- libbed bullshit.

    To quote Gerry Kelly [Sinn Fein] as he commented last year and in reflection of his recent attempt to speak to someone in authority.. ''"The DUP have lectured people for 40 years about breaking the law."

    Mr Kelly said the difficulty was that spokespersons for the loyal orders did not seem to be available.

    "Are these loyalist parades or loyal order parades?" he asked.

    "At the core of this is direct talks without preconditions with the people affected. The people in Carrick Hill have to face 30 parades every summer." unquote.
    In the medical sense i think ''Dr.'' [] Gerry Adams nailed it with his prognosis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prognosis
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    Predictable...... The whole issue of Friday nights parade has now shifted to the rights and wrongs of Sinn Fein MLA Gerry Kelly and the ''Landrover incident.''

    At Stormont today Unionist MLA's raised the issue with Gregory Campbell [DUP] and Jim Allistar [TUV] placing the spotlight on Mr. Kelly. Quote.. Speaking at Stormont on Monday, the DUP's Gregory Campbell said the Assembly should look into the incident and accused Mr Kelly of "impeding" police. unquote. http://www.u.tv/News/Assembly-raise-...6-1f8d1b9e1e1f

    Quote. The TUV leader Jim Allister accused Mr Kelly of "loutish" behaviour. unquote. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-23032860

    As usual, the key issues affecting the residents gets swept under as tribal politicians go head hunting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    I see Gerry Kelly got stuck in...



    Gerry Kelly MLA


    I see someone is now ''cashing in'' on the incident.
    Footage of Sinn Féin MLA Gerry Kelly on the front of a police Land Rover caused a stir over the weekend, now the moment in dispute has been captured in miniature form.


    The model shows a figure on top of a PSNI land rover.
    The PSNI vehicle and Policing Board member have been shrunk to 1:76 size and now appear in the window of the Belfast Model Shop.

    Full details and picture of the toy here... http://www.u.tv/News/Gerry-Kellys-mi...1-d63b34ab3895
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    I mentioned earlier about an incident involving local Nationalist youth during a Loyalist parade in Kilrea.

    Quote. INVESTIGATIONS are continuing into an alleged attack on a loyalist band member who is reported to have been struck on the head with a hurling stick.

    Mid Ulster MLA Ian McCrea described it as a “completely unprovoked attack” and “commended Dunamoney Band for acting in a dignified manner and not retaliating to this disgraceful act.”

    But the PSNI say they are investigating an alleged assault on the person with the hurley bat during the parade in the Diamond area. unquote.
    http://www.midulstermail.co.uk/news/...rade-1-5218965

    There's two versions of events, one of the above is the Loyalist one.
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