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    It looks like the current situation in Venezuela is now unsustainable, and there will be regime change in the coming months.

    This will of course trigger a triumphal chorus from the usual sources about the folly of populism. etc.

    What I would like to see in the near future is a detailed and critical account of why things have not worked out better, but written from a sympathetic point of view.

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    Re Richardbouvet @121.
    Sweet tap-dancing Hey Zeus, what is the purpose of having a "sympathetic point of view"? What can be learned from that?
    Sounds more like you want a propaganda piece that risks putting even more people in jeopardy, from the failed policies of "let someone else pay".
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    I think you have shown your true colours there, Bobulescu.

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    Re RB @123
    Was not aware that I was trying hide any colors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    Re RB @123
    Was not aware that I was trying hide any colors.
    ah Count ..don't hit them too hard ... they want to understand what failed, the fault lines and how they cracked but don't want to see any celebrations of I told you so .. be nice!


    (..i wonder if they are looking for a boring academic piece on this..)

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    Destabilization attempts working......

    VENEZUELA IN CRISIS
    - FT's Lucy Hornby in Beijing and Andres Schipani in Medellín: "China is renegotiating billions of dollars of loans to Venezuela and has met with the country's political opposition, marking a shift in its approach to a nation it once viewed as a US counterweight in the Americas. ... Venezuela is facing one of the worst crises of its 200-year history, with a collapsing economy and political deadlock stoked by the oil price slump. China, which is Caracas's biggest creditor and has loaned the country $65bn since 2005, has already extended the repayment schedules for debts backed by oil sales.


    "Beijing has also sent unofficial envoys to hold talks with Venezuela's opposition, in the hope that if President Nicolás Maduro falls his successors will honour Chinese debts ... Its recognition of Mr Maduro's fragile position and the rising clout of the opposition, led by Henrique Capriles, is another sign that the diplomatic noose is tightening around Caracas's socialist government" http://goo.gl/MbkcjO



    FOOD RIOTS - NYT's Nicholas Casey: "With delivery trucks under constant attack, the nation's food is now transported under armed guard. Soldiers stand watch over bakeries. The police fire rubber bullets at desperate mobs storming grocery stores, pharmacies and butcher shops. A 4-year-old girl was shot to death as street gangs fought over food. ... Venezuela is convulsing from hunger.


    "Hundreds of people here in the city of Cumaná, home to one of the region's independence heroes, marched on a supermarket in recent days, screaming for food. They forced open a large metal gate and poured inside. They snatched water, flour, cornmeal, salt, sugar, potatoes, anything they could find, leaving behind only broken freezers and overturned shelves. And they showed that even in a country with the largest oil reserves in the world, it is possible for people to riot because there is not enough food." http://goo.gl/9lC3cQ
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    Close to becoming a Humanitarian Crisis.
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    Is the socialist revolution is now a socialist dictatorship?

    • Venezuela's government and the opposition party announced on Mondaythat they'll meet for talks — a move that could at least somewhat defuse a simmering political crisis. [Reuters / Diego Oré and Anggy Polanco]




    • Last week, the government suspended plans to issue a recall vote against President Nicolas Maduro — inspiring many to declare that Venezuela, having flirted with dictatorship for years, had finally tipped over the edge. [Washington Post / Francisco Toro]





    • The opposition had retaliated by laying out plans to put the president on trial. Specifically, it was planning to look into rumors that Maduro holds dual citizenship in Venezuela and Colombia — which would make him ineligible for the presidency under Venezuela's constitution. [AFP]




    • It's not clear whether Maduro's surprise meeting Monday with Pope Francis inspired him to reach out to the opposition. But the pope's involvement certainly shows how urgent the issue has gotten.[AP / Joshua Goodman]





    • Venezuela's governance crisis sits atop (and exacerbates) a growing humanitarian crisis. Not only is the price of oil dropping, but much of Venezuela's oil is going unmined or being destroyed. [WSJ / Anatoly Kurmanev]





    • The national oil company just finished a bond swap to shake off some of its debt. It didn't go as well as Venezuela hoped, but it at least means collapse is no longer totally imminent. [FT / Eric Platt and Jonathan Wheatley]





    • That's not enough to provide relief to the Venezuelans who've been dealing with food and medicine shortages for months — or who are being targeted by the Maduro government. [Human Rights Watch]




    • All in all — Donald Trump or no Donald Trump — compared with a country where democracy may actually be collapsing, US democracy looks pretty damn good. [Vox / German Lopez]
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    • Venezuela's economy is officially in a state of hyperinflation — only the 57th time that an economy has met the technical definition of hyperinflation (currency worth 50 percent less than the previous month for more than 30 consecutive days) in the more than 200 years the concept ahs existed. [Miami Herald / Jim Wyss]




    • The country's economic and fiscal collapse has been ongoing for months, but it got even more acute in November: The Venezuelan bolivar lost 55 percent of its value against the dollar in the past month alone. [BBC]





    • The government's response: a last-minute currency swap. As of Wednesday, 100-bolivar bills (the highest denomination, now worth about 3 US cents) are being removed from circulation and replaced with higher-denomination bills and coins. [WSJ / Anatoly Kurmanaev]





    • Venezuelans and observers have been calling for higher-denomination bills for months: It's much easier to buy things with a 20,000-bolivar note (the new highest denomination, worth $6) than to have vendors count your money by weighing your mass of 100-bolivar bills on the same scale they use to weigh your sliced cheese. [Washington Post / Francisco Toro]





    • But the extremely tight turnaround — Venezuelans had only 72 hours to replace their 100-bolivar bills — caused panic among rural residents who lacked bank access and Venezuelans who were hoping to hold on to their savings until they'd be worth something again. [Fusion / Manuel Rueda and Mariana Zuñiga]





    • President Nicolás Maduro doesn't appear to be gaining control over his country's economy. (Venezuela has been suspended from the regional trade group Mercosur — but a government minister crashed Mercosur talks anyway Wednesday and threw a "temper tantrum.") [AP]





    • But he's not giving up political power, either. His electoral commission continues to quash calls for a recall — and talks between Maduro and the opposition, facilitated by the Vatican, have broken down. [Reuters / Andrew Cawthorne]
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    Nine neighboring countries have called on Venezuela to set a date for elections..............



    Venezuela seized a GM plant. GM said the plant, which employs 2,600 workers in the industrial hub of Valencia, was taken over by authorities, who halted operations and seized assets. The country’s auto industry is in crisis due to the ongoing economic meltdown. Three people were killed in mass protests against president Nicolás Maduro on Wednesday.




    • Last month, Venezuela took a major step toward authoritarian rule when the country’s Supreme Court (populated by loyalists of President Nicolás Maduro) wrested power from its National Assembly, effectively dissolving any power held by Maduro’s opponents. [New York Times / Nicholas Casey, Patricia Torres]




    • Protests quickly followed, but as Abraham F. Lowenthal wrote for the New York Times, it was unclear what the opposition could accomplish without any government power: “The government’s assault on the National Assembly may help the opposition remobilize popular protest, but it is hard to know how long that will last and what it alone can produce.” [New York Times / Abraham F. Lowenthal]




    • Today, in a serious blow to the protests themselves, two people were killed and many were injured when violence erupted during “the mother of all marches,” a demonstration involving tens of thousands of Venezuelans across the country. [Guardian / Virginia Lopez, Jonathan Watts]




    • President Maduro deployed the Venezuelan army to back up police — resulting in the arrest of about 500 protesters, as well of reports of tear gassing and beatings. [Guardian / Virginia Lopez]




    • The two fatalities seem to have occurred when violence broke out between supporters of the government and the opposition. According to early reports, a teenager was shot in the head on his way to play soccer in Caracas. [ABC News Australia]








    • It’s a tragic development, but not an unpredictable one: Maduro’s government has cracked down on opposition expression and racked up human rights abuses. [Human Rights Watch]




    • But political dissatisfaction and crackdowns are riding atop much bigger currents of strife. Venezuela is an oil-rich country in the midst of a major recession. The Guardian’s Latin America correspondent Jonathan Watts described the country as having “the world’s fastest contracting economy, the second highest murder rate, inflation heading towards 1,000% and shortages of food and medicine that have pushed the poorest members of its 30 million population to the edge of a humanitarian abyss.” [Guardian / Jonathan Watts]




    • What happened to the socialist dream in Venezuela? In short, Hugo Chávez so aggressively overregulated the economy during his presidency that he bestowed Venezuela with both the “most punitively misconceived microeconomic policies” and “the world’s most mindlessly self-destructive macroeconomic policies.” [Vox / Francisco Toro]




    • It’s also important to understand that the socialist dream was propelled by leftist populism — and, as countries around the world seem to be learning the hard way over and over again these days, even well-intentioned populism can — and often does — lead to authoritarianism. [New York Times / Max Fisher, Amanda Taub​]
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    1. Venezuela announced it is quitting the Organization of American States, the hemisphere’s oldest regional alliance, amid growing criticism from member states of the country’s slide toward authoritarian rule. (Mariana Zuñiga and Nick Miroff)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    1. Venezuela announced it is quitting the Organization of American States, the hemisphere’s oldest regional alliance, amid growing criticism from member states of the country’s slide toward authoritarian rule. (Mariana Zuñiga and Nick Miroff)
    Is there any balanced or neutral reporting on Venezuela you could recommend ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Is there any balanced or neutral reporting on Venezuela you could recommend ?
    Venezuela is imploding, and that's what everyone is reporting, Sounds as if you're looking for some Trump style "Alternative Facts", and you're unable to find any yourself so you try to pass the buck to me. Not working........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    Venezuela is imploding, and that's what everyone is reporting, Sounds as if you're looking for some Trump style "Alternative Facts", and you're unable to find any yourself so you try to pass the buck to me. Not working........
    Sorry, but if I want to look for dozens of random and unassessed news reports on Venezuela, I can type "Venezuela" and hit return myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Sorry, but if I want to look for dozens of random and unassessed news reports on Venezuela, I can type "Venezuela" and hit return myself.
    What's an assessed news report?
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