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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. FIVE View Post
    Juvenile!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    That's the 2nd time you've referenced post # 2 without explanation. I've already said there is nothing there. First show me the link between Hallet and the US Government. Then show me the malevolent intent of both. The uncomfortable truth you are unable to stomach is that the US has attempted to mend fences with Venezuela, post Chavez, and has been rebuffed up until yesterday.

    Born in Kenya too I hear.
    Cut out the racism, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Cut out the racism, please.
    What's racist?
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    Here's some of the headlines Venezuela has been generating in the last 72 hours.

    Nice Try, Venezuela, But Your Censorship Backfired
    .......................But this time something feels fundamentally different. There's no Chávez. There's no independent media. And yet the world actually seems to be paying attention.

    There are two reasons for this. The first is the consistent failure by the regime of President Nicolás Maduro to paint a coherent, believable picture of what's really going on in Venezuela. The second is international concern about Venezuela's current media blackout and restrictions on the foreign press.....................

    .................As with any campfire ghost story, darkness has a way of making the very worst seem believable. By attempting to muffle domestic criticism, the regime in Caracas may well be exposing itself to something worse, on a much larger stage. Venezuela's gloomy media landscape is making it easier for the world to believe that Maduro's regime has a great deal to hide.
    http://transitions.foreignpolicy.com...ship_backfired


    Venezuela's Protests Shake the Regime Chávez Built


    Chavez Spewed Hate, but He Kept a Lid on Repression. That May Be Over Now.

    More protests as Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro calls for talks with US


    Venezuelans Are Rioting Against President Nicolás Maduro, And People Are ...

    Maduro
    : Kerry remarks give violence 'green light'

    Caracas (AFP) - President Nicolas Maduro said Saturday that remarks by US Secretary of State John Kerry on the unrest in Venezuela gave violent groups a "green light" to carry out attacks.

    Venezuela's Maduro wants talks with Obama

    Caracas, Venezuela (CNN) -- Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro called Friday on the United States to exchange ambassadors just days after expelling three American diplomats from the country.

    Maduro
    threatens to expel CNN for Venezuela coverage

    CARACAS Feb 20 (Reuters) - Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro threatened on Thursday to expel television network CNN from the country if it did not "rectify" the way it has covered deadly political protests.
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    do you have any reliable sources Count?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. FIVE View Post
    do you have any reliable sources Count?
    If you don't like mine, feel free to supply your own from the recent past (two weeks). If you can find any that meet with your approval.
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    This Is the App That's Fueling the Uprising in Venezuela


    Founded in Austin in 2011, Zello allows individuals to communicate to one another walkie-talkie style via a simple broadband connection. The app interface looks a like button on your phone. You press it to speak to people on a particular channel. The channels can be as small as two people or as big as hundreds of thousands. The largest in Venezuela is about 450,000, but only 600 can be active on a channel at one time, Moore said. The feel of the app is similar to the now defunct Nextel push-to-talk service, which was shut down last summer. Zello is free for individuals but companies can purchase a plan to allow more users on a single channel for $10 a month. Zello has been downloaded some 50 million times. In addition to playing a big role in the recent Ukraine protests, it was also extremely popular during last year’s unrest in Turkey.

    Moore never imagined that what he was making could become a politically destabilizing force. He knew only that he wanted to make a social network around the idea of Internet-based radio. “The human voice carries so much more information than typing. We knew that was the basis of something great. If you listen to these channels you realize that it’s a way for people to make friends. The surprise was that that it exploded in Turkey almost a year ago to become the number one app in Turkey around the issues that they had, and then in Venezuela.”

    But Zello, which has been downloaded more than 600,000 times in Venezuela in just a few days, has seen multiple uses, some of these extend beyond calling for marches and launching maneuvers to evade the authorities. They include organizing guarimbas, blockades of burning trash, to thwart National Guard and police movements. The erection of the guarimbas represents a clear escalation in protestor tactics away from simple peaceful marches and some report that the blockades have contributed to the casualty count, which officially hit 11 over the weekend. The use of guarimbasis controversial among the protestors and has been met with extremely harsh responses from troops as demonstrated in this video.
    http://www.defenseone.com/technology...itial-continue
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    Burning barricades seem to be the operational mode du jour.

    One wonders why heavy machinery has not been used against them.

    Still, they make for great photo ops.

    It is good to see all that US cash invested in destabilising is helping to address the mass unemployment crisis by providing a few tech jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. FIVE View Post
    do you have any reliable sources Count?
    They are reliable. They tell you exactly what the US government wants you to believe
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Cut out the racism, please.
    2nd time I've asked. What did I write that was racist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    2nd time I've asked. What did I write that was racist?
    Stirring up that old Teaparty birther nonsense. I'm surprised at you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    They are reliable. They tell you exactly what the US government wants you to believe
    Same to you as Dr. Five. Post a news source that is giving an alternative narrative, if you can find one.
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    Taking a lesson from Ukraine

    In Venezuela, Protest Ranks Grow Broader By WILLIAM NEUMAN

    Residents in Caracas and other cities piled furniture, tree limbs, chain-link fence, sewer grates and washing machines to block roads in a coordinated action against the government.

    WH chastises Venezuelan leader
    By Justin Sink
    "This is not about the United States," a spokesman said.
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    Rolando Tomasini at Al Jazeera English on President Nicholas Maduro’s lack of legitimacy in Venezuela.
    “The government's excessive repression methods over the past week have pushed the limits of its erstwhile popular support, provoking the masses to express their disaccord with President Nicolas Maduro. Residents from the poorest areas have adopted the same methods against the government's violence and repression, setting up barricades, blocking military access, fighting back against the guards and using social media to show the world that they, too, have had enough of the government's mismanagement,” Tomasini writes. “It is impossible to establish dialogue when you control and restrict channels of communication. Maduro refuses to take responsibility for the brutal violence taking place all over the country. Members of his party, cabinet and military forces have begun showing signs of declining support of Maduro as the situation continues to deteriorate.


    Rash Repression in Venezuela

    By FRANCISCO TORO

    Venezuelans take to the streets to defend the very right to protest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    Same to you as Dr. Five. Post a news source that is giving an alternative narrative, if you can find one.
    Perhaps you would like to post a "news source" rather than a series of disinformation pieces churned out off the same script.

    Here's something alternative -

    http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014.../vene-f25.html
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