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    And on the disinfo and allegedly crooked ex 'Chavistas' . https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/13507 (of course I cant know the exact truth myself)

    By the way there is a long known problem with corrupt police which I think was never solved(see the paragraph entitled 'The legacy of a rotten police force' -2009 article) https://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/4338

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    OK, I can see why Falcon is not the answer.

    However, the government MUST do something to improve the economy. If a meltdown is being caused by external or internal factors it is still a meltdown, and that means that Maduro must change course in some way.

    Is there any sign of him doing this? If not, where is it going to end?

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    The government has tried. Criticism has been implied on RNN of economic policy (price controls which dont work) and Venezuela Analysis reports , the latter sometimes talking of internal corruption in the government . Maduro has been criticised for trying to compromise with the opposition also (by likely going on ultra leftists) on the latter so again he is damned whatever which way you might say . The escalation of sanctions and the obvious determination of neo-liberalism in general to once and for all crush Chavism is likely causing stubborness in the PSUV . If Mexico (is allowed to) goes left in July then Trump will be diverted , so then might be more promising?
    Anyhow https://venezuelanalysis.com/ though it can be quirky is a US left solidarity effort in the main . Telesur is funded by the Venezuelan government in cooperation with it's few remaining allies and the 1st place to have news in English usually https://www.telesurtv.net/english/index.html

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    A report detailed “crimes against humanity” by Nicolás Maduro’s government. The Organization of American States’ report documents thousands of extra-judicial killings and arbitrary detentions in Venezuela under the strongman’s rule. It was presented to the International Criminal Court, which announced a preliminary investigation.
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    Here we go again. That is likely disinfo based on the long known corrupt police story (2009 https://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/4338 )
    and involves the sacked Attorney General getting back at the government . Ironically they are taking another long know reality (that of Colombia's history of death squads) and trying to impose it on Venezuela 07/17 https://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/13222 11/17 https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/13507

    And the latest rebuttal from yesterday https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/13850
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    No, you're wrong. The events referenced in the OAS report took place between 2010 and 2015. Your police corruption link was written in 2009.


    It may disappoint you to learn that the US was not involved in compiling the OAS report on Maduro........ Luis Almagro the OAS Sec Gen has a long history of advocating against human rights abuses.......



    http://www.oas.org/en/media_center/p...odigo=E-031/18



    http://www.oas.org/en/media_center/p...odigo=S-024/18
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    Alamgro was already discussed on this thread (I brought him up myself). He is another former leftie who sold his soul for an unknown price. I hope it was spectacular, as his name is long mud, even being attacked by former Uruguyan presidient 'Pepe' Mujica (akin to Michael D crosssed with Gerry Adams perhaps) . Anyone with a long time interest will not be that impressed

    Likely a deal has been done to protect Uruguay's complicated interests as a 'social liberal to social democrat' going on tax haven, as even Mujica has been silenced over the past year or so sadly, but at least he has not sunk to Almagro's depths , confining himself to implying Chavista's (inc Maduro) are crazy but likeable . A dissapointed academic on the Chavista semi opposition site laments https://www.aporrea.org/ideologia/a263502.html
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    Er, minor glitch in the empire's plans as some underlings get sulky? Bad irony aside, it is not that funny really . Trump may soon have to worry about a closer left populist in Mexico (or ruptions if AMLO is stopped? ) , and maybe even the former closest ally Colombia slipping away
    https://therealnews.com/stories/emba...a-from-the-oas

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    A real surprise find (as in the author, a guy maligned by hyper critics for whatever reasons) . It does fill in some blanks about what went wrong in Venezuela and Brasil https://rosaluxspba.org/en/tariqali/

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    News broke yesterday that Trump had asked aides about the possibility of invading Venezuela. When the aides said no, he continued with South American leaders.
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    The threat is real judging by reports all over, and again the alleged interference in Nicaragua which appears to be a grudge match rather than current reality . Anyhow the economic outlook is bleak. While the author is trying to be hopeful, the stats given are very worrying (70% drop in tax revenues, etc) which explains the hyper-inflation. The unorthodox strategies he refers to at the end were AFAIK the sacking of 10,000s of striking right wing oil workers in 2003 and the nationalisations in 2010 (700 companies now, more that I had realised) . Fundamentally at this time of globalist reality it is very hard for any moving towards socialism in one country strategy to work . The only real hope is that they clear up the remaining corruption damned quick
    https://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/13915

    And some good news involves relying on Chinese state capitalism to try to insure the survival of the state oil company PVDSA but 5 billion is just a drop in the ocean these days . https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/13918
    Chavez unfortunately let such opportunities slide before by tolerating out of control corruption in the army says gossip. It's not over til it's over, but a question would be is it too late? https://rosaluxspba.org/en/tariqali/

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