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    I'm linking an informative interview with Bernd Lucke, the Leader of the Alternative für Deutschland which aims at unseating Merkel in this years German elections. The party seeks to do away with the Euro. It attributes the measures taken in Cyprus to its positions which (they claim) have changed the dynamic in German politics. Much of the thinking is informed by what is in the longer term interests of Germany but also contains acccurate insights into how the Eurozone is currently functioning.

    We think that the euro currently splits the European Union into two parts ー a segment of an economically unsuccessful southern part, and a more northern, or more central, European part, which currently seems to benefit from the misery of the southern European countries, because all of the capital flows back from southern Europe to Germany, and the Netherlands, and other stable countries, where it helps us to do cheap investment, but which is at the expense of those southern European countries, and which certainly is the cause for envious sentiment and angry sentiment in the southern European countries, so that the political tensions within the European Union actually rise.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/bernd...-cyprus-2013-3
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    More on the same.

    The headline seems a bit misleading but worth a listen/read.

    German Anti-Euro Group Has Big-Name Backers


    http://www.npr.org/2013/03/30/175765...g-name-backers
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    Default New German Anti-Euro Party founded today.

    A new political party was founded today in Germany. "Alternativ für Deutschland" is a centre-right party with a clear policy to dump the Euro and bring back the Deutsche Mark.
    I suppose it was only a matter of time before Germans got fed up with the whole Euro problem.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22141618

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    "Center" right? Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim Buddha View Post
    A new political party was founded today in Germany. "Alternativ für Deutschland" is a centre-right party with a clear policy to dump the Euro and bring back the Deutsche Mark.
    I suppose it was only a matter of time before Germans got fed up with the whole Euro problem.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22141618
    They must be very foolish then, or want to boost the values of their savings, if they think a reappreciated Mark would keep Germany prosperous. Germany is profiting from an unfair advantage through its low wages(possibly the lowest in the eurozone, aside from what has happened to the Greeks) and underpriced exports as well as the fact their government is profiting from the misery around them whilst using bankrupt neighbours to bail out Deutsche and Depfa Banks. Such a party would be welcome. Break the euro up, and see who benefits-because there's something wrong with a centre right party that is not happy about full employment, and massive cash flows gained through kicking around its neighbours and paying people 2 euro an hour to produce super cheap goods which would in marks cost a fortune.

    Steinbrueck meanwhile on the euronews today hardly looked any different and imposing than Merkel. Europe is a sham, and Germany like anyone else, will eventually do what domestic pressure will force it to, either leave the euro or stop moaning about footing the bill behind its own integration agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    "Center" right? Seriously?
    It is what they call themselves, at any rate.There is a lot of disillusioned CDU people in their ranks. It seems that UKIP is their template.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apjp View Post

    Steinbrueck meanwhile on the euronews today hardly looked any different and imposing than Merkel. Europe is a sham, and Germany like anyone else, will eventually do what domestic pressure will force it to, either leave the euro or stop moaning about footing the bill behind its own integration agenda.
    Steinbrück was in Augsburg yesterday for the SPD Parteitag. He gave an 80-minute speech nailing his colours firmly to a classic SPD social democratic election programme. Given that the election is in 160 days, he had to differentiate himself from Merkel (and a lot of this has to do with lousy poll figures for Steinbrück) because Merkel is so far ahead in opinion polls, especially on the "choice for Bundeskanzler" question where she leads 3 to 1. It was a good day for him yesterday. He gave a strong speech with content which his party wanted to hear and a party appeared on the scene which, if it does anything at all, it will steal voted from the CDU.

    Here is more on Alternativ für Deutschland. Farage could have founded this lot himself.

    http://www.dbresearch.com/servlet/reweb2.ReWEB?addmenu=false&document=PROD0000000000 302571&rdShowArchivedDocus=true&rwnode=DBR_INTERNE T_EN-****$NAVIGATION&rwobj=ReDisplay.Start.class&rwsite =DBR_INTERNET_EN-****

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim Buddha View Post
    Steinbrück was in Augsburg yesterday for the SPD Parteitag. He gave an 80-minute speech
    80 minutes??? Gosh, the speaker's fee must have ben gigantic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TotalMayhem View Post
    80 minutes??? Gosh, the speaker's fee must have ben gigantic...

    Given the audience, I think he thought it wiser to forego it!

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    Default Re: New German Anti-Euro Party founded today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slim Buddha View Post
    A new political party was founded today in Germany. "Alternativ für Deutschland" is a centre-right party with a clear policy to dump the Euro and bring back the Deutsche Mark.
    I suppose it was only a matter of time before Germans got fed up with the whole Euro problem.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22141618
    Certainly a party with serious potential to damage the "Merkel" vote for re-election.
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    Do not rejoice in his defeat, you men. For though the world has stood up and stopped the bastard, the (female dog) that bore him is in heat again. Bertolt Brecht

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    I just merged the threads.
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    Good result for AFD. Terrible result for the frau Doctor and co

    Germany’s Social Democrats won state elections in Hamburg, handing Chancellor Angela Merkel a defeat that sent her party’s support in the nation’s biggest port to the lowest since World War II, according to exit polls.

    The Social Democrats took 46.5 percent in the city-state, less than in the last election four years ago, possibly forcing Mayor Olaf Scholz to seek a coalition partner for a second term, according to exit polls on ARD and ZDF national television. Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union slid to 16 percent from almost the 22 percent it won in 2011. The Greens, a potential ally for Scholz, were polling about 12 percent.

    Alternative for Germany, an anti-euro party headed by Hamburg economics professor Bernd Lucke, was within reach of winning its first seats in a western German state assembly. Exit polls showed the party with fractionally bigger support than the 5 percent needed to enter the assembly. The pro-business Free Democrats were at about 7 percent and the anti-capitalist Left at about 8 percent.
    http://washpost.bloomberg.com/Story?...MOL8AE38M6II6N
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    The CDs are going to be pulled apart from right and left.

    Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union slid to 16 percent from almost the 22 percent it won in 2011.
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