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    Another survey. Always hard to know if people felt safe to give their real view but for what it is worth, interesting -

    Fabbe: Beyond challenging the popular preconception that most refugees want to go to Europe, our research also produced some interesting findings about what we call “side taking” in the conflict. We cannot speak to the balance of support for different actors in the civil war at the national level, as the majority of our respondents are from Aleppo (see Fig. 1). If we were to have conducted this research in Lebanon or Jordan, we would have likely found very different results.
    Two interesting things emerge about perceptions of security and “side taking.” First, more of our respondents believe that ISIS is the primary threat to the future of Syria as a country ahead of the Assad regime (~62% vs. ~37%), but the reverse holds when we ask about personal threats (~52% Assad vs. ~43% ISIS). Second, we found surprising the significant number of respondents who reported that no party to the conflict represents their interests.
    This was an unusual poll question, but revealing -
    Perhaps most challenging for transitional justice is the desire for extremely harsh punishments for parties to the conflict of all affiliations.

    • 19.66 percent of respondents think that “those who fought with the regime” should be executed
    • Around 9 percent of respondents think that “members of the regime” should be executed
    • 37 percent of respondents think that “opposition fighters that have killed civilians” should be executed
    • 49.47 percent of respondents think that “those who fought with ISIS” should be executed
    • 11.7 percent of respondents think that “members of local militias not clearly affiliated with political goals” should be executed.

    For example, nearly 30 percent of respondents said that their neighborhoods were barrel bombed, and a little over 14 percent said people from their neighborhood were killed by these bombs. To give you a sense of the suffering people have endured, the following figures are illustrative:

    • 23 percent said people from their neighborhood were killed from shelling
    • 14 percent said people from their neighborhood were killed from rocket attack
    • 14 percent said people from their neighborhood were killed from suicide bombing
    • A smaller percentage (less than 1 percent) said people from their neighborhood were killed by insurgent fighting, sniper fire, torture or assassination
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    https://www.newsdeeply.com/syria/com...efugees-want-2
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    The same poll (see post above) also said that over 90% of the Aleppo refugees want Syria to stay as a unitary state - however the reality on the ground currently is territorial split. The Syrian state holds much of the West and the main cities - thus most of the population. There is a Kurdish territory ine the north linked to that in Iraq. The area next to the Israeli - occupied Golan Heights is held by a mix of jihadist groups who are assisted by the Israelis, contested by Hezbollah, who hold territory along the Lebanon border. Opposition-held areas are Idlib (jihadist dominated) , north west Syria, the South, the south --- north of Jordan and Saudi Arabia where US-run bases are, and the area subject of the DIA cable on the Deir el Ezzor oil rich / Euphrates route area is ISIS-held apart from the town itself. Big gains recently made by the Syrian state (Russian backed) and YPG/opposition (US backed) at the expense of ISIS territory. Russia and Syria accuse the US of protecting ISIS / letting them leave positions. The currently contested US base at al Tanf just inside the Iraqi border at the SE is shown. The US has established bases in Syria without government permission in the north close to the Turkish border, at the east close to Iraq and south, also close to Iraq (al-Tanf).

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    US shot down an Iranian drone in Syria yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    US shot down an Iranian drone in Syria yesterday.
    Just look at that map. What could possibly go wrong ?
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