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    I've just received word that Éirígí Chairperson, Brian Leeson, was arrested last night at his home. Éirígí are holding a protest this evening at Lucan Garda Barracks at 8pm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seán Ryan View Post
    I've just received word that Éirígí Chairperson, Brian Leeson, was arrested last night at his home. Éirígí are holding a protest this evening at Lucan Garda Barracks at 8pm.
    Cant see anything online, what was he arrested for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffybiscuits View Post
    Cant see anything online, what was he arrested for?
    No clue I'm afraid. This is pretty much news as it's happening. Without info on the matter, I'd be siding with Brian and Éirígí. Brian's another gentleman that I've grown to respect and like.

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    Probably just sectioned because the Branch thought it time to have a kick at Eirigi. He will be out in 24 without any charges. Or that's the way it used to go back in my day.
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    They could have a lot of potential, at least from the point of view of upsetting things and reigniting debate on Ireland's membership of the EU. SF were founded in 1905, and reaped the rewards in the end in terms of revolutionary support, leaving aside for a moment the civil war and the treaty. I wouldn't vote for a socialist party that wants us to be in a federal union, but a leftwing republican party would get my vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apjp View Post
    I wouldn't vote for a socialist party that wants us to be in a federal union, but a leftwing republican party would get my vote.
    I'm not sure they are that interested in elections. Been hanging around with the WSM too long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    I'm not sure they are that interested in elections. Been hanging around with the WSM too long.
    Local elections I think are what they participate in? Ah I don't know Sam. I have been for some time in between direct democracy and leftwing republicanism. I would agree that the economy needs to be restructured, and remodelled to survive, and more importantly to increase income equality for the 60%+ of inhabitants who are low earning workers-lower middle class. I kind of stumbled into my degree('Business and Languages') in 2009 at 17, as it was that or journalism both of which I was offered-I mostly chose the degree I am doing now as it came with a grant and offered me the chance to learn languages.

    When I was in the WP I felt I was being treated suspiciously because of the 50% of my degree which admittedly contains mostly 'business' subjects. I would just say that I wanted to do History and Languages in college, but didn't get the points, and at this stage with 6 months to go have still no interest in working for parasitically large multinational companies but it would be CV suicide to quit and I'd have to pay thousands of euro of my grant and fees back. And my experience in the WP, as well as the fact that I'm off to Prague in May, has left me unwilling to commit to any party.

    I do agree on leaving the EU and the euro, establishing a republic which guarantees equality, and on re-unification. I guess Eirigi and anyone else looking for serious change have a long road ahead of them, and there will be less and less young people here to support them. Whilst I don't do labelling(trots and all that old arguing about who said what in 1915) I am very suspicious of the ULA, a large proportion of whom don't seem to recognise Irish sovereignty as an important aspiration. I wouldn't really see myself as some utopianist flowerbag like one well known poster in the SWP, and I am not exactly a communist. I guess socialist republicanism is something i always had some sympathy for, but i do think people should be self governing to a good extent as well.
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    Any more news on Leeson's arrest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Any more news on Leeson's arrest?
    Nope. The gardaí are keeping quiet too...

    This came online a while ago: http://www.channel4.com/news/irish-r...rested-at-home

    I suppose we'll have to wait for a Paul Williams exclusive.

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    The anything but Independent is first out of the blocks with this piece of screed:

    Eirigi behind failed gun shop raid, gardai fear

    Unfeckinreal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seán Ryan View Post
    The anything but Independent is first out of the blocks with this piece of screed:

    Eirigi behind failed gun shop raid, gardai fear

    Unfeckinreal...
    Certainly.

    There is nothing about eírígí's political statements that would make one think they would see merit in a handful of people running about armed.

    There is a strain of Irish politics that reaches for guns before reaching for their brains. I sincerely hope that it has not found its way into eírígí.

    This type of person has other places to go than eírígí, which has spent years trying to develop an honest socialist republican programme. Their most recent statement that I have read was about abortion rights, on which they had clearly been having internal debate and in which they acknowledged there was a minority position who opposed abortion. Such political honesty and internal democracy is an exception on the Irish left.

    Impatience, and lack of confidence in the strength and potential of the mass of people, and an individualist outlook, is the basis for terrorism against the system.

    Over the hundred and more years it has been used, I can't think of any example of it leading to change of the system, and many occasions on which it has ended with injury, death or jail for completely innocent people, and the perpetrators.

    And if a party can't raise funds other than at gunpoint, then it is most unlikely it has the capacity to spend them in any constructive way.

    I hope that we get clearer news on this soon.
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    The front page of the Examiner names a Trinity student as having been arrested at the attempted raid and says she is an eírígí member.

    Can't find the report online.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    There is nothing about eírígí's political statements that would make one think they would see merit in a handful of people running about armed.
    First of all let me preface my remarks by saying that no evidence has been produced yet to associate eírígí with anything illegal.

    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Impatience, and lack of confidence in the strength and potential of the mass of people, and an individualist outlook, is the basis for terrorism against the system.
    Even if people associated with eírígí were attempting to procure weapons it does not imply that they were for the purpose of "terrorism".

    There has been no political group in Ireland in my memory (which goes back a long way) engaged in acts of terrorism although imperialism and reaction chose to put that label on trhose engaged in the national liberation struggle. I hope you are not echoing this.


    And if a party can't raise funds other than at gunpoint, then it is most unlikely it has the capacity to spend them in any constructive way.
    The Bolsheviks raised money in many ways and used it quite constructively.

    After returning to Tiflis, Stalin organized the robbing of a large delivery of money to the Imperial Bank on 26 June 1907. Stalin's gang ambushed the armed convoy in Yerevan Square with gunfire and homemade bombs. Around 40 people were killed, but all of Stalin's gang managed to escape alive with 250,000 roubles (about US$3.4 million in modern terms). Stalin and his family fled Tiflis two days later. A henchman delivered the money to Lenin in Finland, who then fled with it to Geneva. The Mensheviks, who had banned bank robberies (and did not get to share in the loot), were outraged.
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    Éirígí Statement:
    29/11/12

    éirígíThe socialist republican party, éirígí, has condemned the arrest and continued detention of the party’s national chairperson, Brian Leeson.

    Leeson was arrested by gardaí at his home late on Tuesday evening.

    In a statement strongly condemning Leeson’s arrest and detention, the party’s general secretary, Breandán Mac Cionnaith said, “Brian Leeson was arrested at his home by gardaí late on Tuesday evening.

    “Neither the party nor Brian’s family are aware of any reason why the gardaí should have chosen either to arrest or co continue to detain him.

    “However, it is clear that some sections of the press have engaged in ill-founded comment in relation to Brian’s arrest in terms that can only be described as highly sensationalist speculation. Such coverage is undoubtedly and quite obviously highly prejudicial.

    “Brian has played a central role in organising opposition to the austerity policies being implemented by the Fine Gael/Labour Coalition in Leinster House. With further austerity and anti-working class measures due to be announced within the next few weeks, we are of the view that this arrest and the accompanying coverage by some media outlets is designed to undermine opposition to this forthcoming budget and to attack our party.

    “We also believe that it is more than just mere coincidence that Brian’s arrest came just over a week after the party voted at our annual Ard Fheis to contest local government elections in the 26 Counties.

    “We fully believe that these things are most certainly not unconnected.”
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