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    Louise O'Keeffe won a person of year award last night. Took Enda Kenny 11 month's to meet her. Only after her own determination again and as of two weeks ago, his government, with their Mairia Cahill twitter avatars, still haven't acted on the ECtHR judgment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. FIVE View Post
    Louise O'Keeffe won a person of year award last night. Took Enda Kenny 11 month's to meet her. Only after her own determination again and as of two weeks ago, his government, with their Mairia Cahill twitter avatars, still haven't acted on the ECtHR judgment.
    I head that the Garda whistleblowers were up for it, too

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    Suspended sentence for child abuse


    A 31-YEAR-OLD Gorey man who pleaded guilty to two counts of engaging in sexual intercourse with his cousin has been given an 18-month suspended prison sentence.

    Michael Fitzgerald, of Ballyregan, Camolin, Gorey and also of 35B Garden City, Gorey, pleaded guilty before Judge Alice Doyle at Wexford Circuit Criminal Court to engaging in sexual intercourse with a minor at Buffers Alley G.A.A. Club, Ballinastraw Lower, Gorey between September 11, 2006, and August 29, 2007.


    But taking into account the fact that he has no previous convictions, has never come to the attention of gardai before or since, she would suspend the 18-month sentence.


    http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/c...-31317058.html
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    Excellent post here from Dr Vicky Conway on recent cases


    http://humanrights.ie/criminal-justi...ustice-system/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. FIVE View Post
    Excellent post here from Dr Vicky Conway on recent cases


    http://humanrights.ie/criminal-justi...ustice-system/
    Good blogpost, I hope it is widely read and circulated.

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    I am wondering why has there been no AGS investigation into whether the late Jimmy Savile might have committed any offences during his visits to Ireland?

    http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/bo...take-1.1868468

    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/dis...237584561.html


    It seems statistically unlikely that he wouldn't have, given his pattern of offending behaviour.

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    http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/c...-31374643.htmlMore of it

    A teacher raped by her boyfriend while she slept says she has received "no justice" after he was handed a suspended seven-year prison sentence.


    Niamh Nic Dhomhnaill, a former secondary school teacher from Dublin, said this suspended sentence sent out "the wrong message" to victims of rape and sexual violence.



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    Seems we are not unique


    A Canadian judge who asked an alleged rape victim why she could "not just keep your knees together" has resigned.

    The judge said in a statement, released through his lawyer, that he was guilty of victim-blaming throughout the trial.

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    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime...oner-1.3063570

    Hearing between the Police Authority and Noirin O'Sullivan, Garda Commissioner.

    The latter informed the former that in a number of cases the killing of women went into the stats as only an assault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffybiscuits View Post
    Im already aware of a thread on Anthony Lyons but just wanted to look at the over all picture in the Irish justice system in light of some recent cases. Recent cases have seen perpetrators of attacks being let go with suspended sentences, paying fines or partially both with the Lyons case being the most famous one. In one instance there was a case of an alleged rape victim being arrested for not testifying in court (this even made the headlines in the Guardian).

    Anthony Lyons was told to pay a €75k fine and then told he was only serving six months of a six year sentence as he was at low risk of offending. In November of this year gone by Eamon Harkin beat his girlfriend badly and only refrained from it during the ninety minute beating so he could have a glass of water. Harkin got 240 hours community service in lieu of a two year suspended sentence.

    The most shocking however comes from three cases which were presided over by a judge Martin Nolan and all three cases IMO the attacker gets a lenient sentence. The first involved a Graham Griffin was a 29 year old from Louth who attacked a 17 year old girl. Griffin told the gardai that he was under some sort of "magnetic force" and blamed the hormones . He was handed a suspended four year sentence. The second case involves a Thoms Finn who attacked his neighbour while her deah elderly father was inside his house. The victim lost conciousness and when on the ground Finn continued on kicking the victim and was later told that he could escape jail if he paid the victim €3000 compensation which was described as "a token of remorse". Lastly a Jane Ruffino told the media she felt down by the media after her attacker escaped jail when he was told to pay €5000 and this would mean he would get a suspended sentence.

    The above clearly shows that the justice system is letting down women and not only that the political system to boot but the former is not as noticeable as the latter. We have a male orientatied establishment that seems to take no notice of how women are treated and women can still be considered second class citizens in this country. We need to change the system and do a root and branch clear out of the judicial system . Nolans sentences are not satisfactory at all IMO, something that I, if I were a woman, would take issue with.



    Sources:



    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/b...lt-561171.html

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...reaking52.html

    http://www.independent.ie/national-n...0-3265350.html

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...er-213581.html


    http://www.independent.ie/national-n...k-3294545.html

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...rested-ireland
    Many thanks to Alison at IFN for her help on this
    sorry mate but unfair on women my knob!!!! did you even see that trial over burton in jobstown thats all men on trial but if you remember that day on the telly it was mostly women causin the trouble!!!!

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