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    Thumbs up People in Need

    I'm going to be blatant on this one, and if mods feel it's too much, do what you have to do

    Greece is in trouble, it's People are in Need. And something needs doing. With a few friends, we have now set up www.people-in-need.com, a fun, serious, interactive fund raising site for People in Need, the charity I work with and for. Although still a work in progress, the site was launched this morning.
    Heading into winter, we are in serious need of as much support as we can get.
    The intention of the site is to facilitate dialogue and discussion while highlighting the plight of the ordinary people suffering from the greed of the "powers that be" (Not necessarily in Greece only). Through dialogue we hope to create understanding, through understanding we hope to create cooperation.
    You will recognize a few contributors to the site, if you feel like contributing yourself with content, please do. If further info is required, send me a pm or contact the site admin, details are on the site.
    Please have a good look around, use the twitter and facebook buttons to spread the word, and, if at all possible, help us help those who can't help themselves.
    People in Need is recognized and backed by the Greek Orthodox Church (that's what the Greek text in the about section is all about )and we are currently raising funds for the shelters and food kitchens in the prefecture of Chania, Crete. Accounts will be published on a monthly basis in the "About" section.
    We are also in the process of setting up a facebook page, and "likes" would be very welcome for www.facebook.com/PeopleinNeedGreece
    You can follow us on twitter @Ephilant.

    Just a little hint, for all those poets amongst you (serious and otherswise), we do have a "Limericks" session where you can simply let rip (please keep it clean!)

    Thanks for looking!

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    Very interesting.

    Will definitely be in to that.

    Also interested in Mediabite's "Favour Exchange."

    Anything and everything that can keep people afloat and helping each other, basically.
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    There are five charities of that name already all promising much the same thing. Good luck with your effort all the same.

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    Could we organise a collection here to help out people in Greece? As in blankets and clothing and things like that?

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    As a poignant reminder as to why this initiative is so timely, we just received the news of a double suicide in Chania, the area of our attention.
    A 26 year old young man jumped to his death from the balcony of his flat, while outside the town a 70 year old farmer committed suicide by drinking pesticides.
    In both cases a note was left citing inability to pay for the most basic item in life, food!
    These two vicitms bring the confirmed suicides on Crete for this week to 9. According to the statistics, Crete is one of the most affluent areas in Greece. Knowing what I know, and seeing what I see on a daily basis, I can only imagine the nightmare it must be in the "poor" areas of the country.
    RIP

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    We can make a difference. This message was received over the weekend. I am posting both the original Greek message and the English translation. Hopefully we can get people everywhere to react positively. The town of Kalyves has a population of approximately 1500 souls. 130 of these are People in Need. Daily need. In the surrounding villages further inland the situation is worse, far worse. This is the human tragedy, caused by the economic policies of the past but mainly of the present. And if the powers that be get it there way, this will get far worse, soon.
    Ζούμε σε μια εποχή που ο άνθρωπος είχε τη δυνατότητα να λύσει όλα του τα προβλήματα. Παρόλα αυτά η παγκόσμια κοινότητα βρίσκεται σήμερα μπροστά σε τραγικά κοινωνικά και ατομικά αδιέξοδα, κρίση οικονομική, ηθική και πνευματική. Η χώρα μας την τελευταία τριετία μαστίζεται από μια πρωτοφανή οικο*νομική κρίση, που προκαλεί στους ανθρώπους αβεβαιότητα, ανασφάλεια και φόβο. Κρίση κοινω*νική και οικονομική που στο βάθος της είναι πνευματική. Ανθρώπινα δι*καιώματα που ήταν αυτονόητα καταργούνται καθημερινά, ανατρέπονται με βίαιο τρόπο λαϊκές κατακτήσεις, αμφισβητούνται αρχές και αξίες και επιβάλ*λονται ριζικές ανατροπές στην κοινωνία μας. Η χώρα μας καταδυναστεύεται και αισθανόμαστε ότι είμαστε υπό κατοχή και δέσμιοι των δανειστών μας. Οι ηγέτες μας δεν υπηρέτησαν τα πραγματικά συμφέροντα του λαού αλλά ενδιαφέρθηκαν για τη νομή της εξουσίας. Εμείς ως λαός λειτουργήσαμε ανεύθυνα, ζήσαμε πρόσφατα μια πλαστή καλοπέραση, επιδοθήκαμε στο εύκολο κέρδος, στη διεκδίκηση δικαιω*μάτων σε βάρος των συνανθρώπων μας και αδιαφορήσαμε για την κοινωνική συνοχή. Χωρίς να το αντιληφθούμε ζήσαμε μια τραγικότητα: ενδιαφερθήκαμε για το παρόν και χάσαμε το ουσιαστικό νόημα της ζωής. Παραδοθήκαμε στην κατανάλωση, ανεχθήκαμε τη διαφθορά, αδιαφορήσαμε για το αύριο που ετοιμάζαμε για τους νέους μας. Συνεχίζουμε να αναγνωρίζουμε τις ευθύνες μας. Η λύση αυτής της κρίσης που ταλανίζει τον τόπο μας, δεν πιστεύουμε ότι θα λυθεί μέσω δανείων, μνημονίων και διεθνών συμβουλών. Η πνευματική κρίση είναι γνωστό ότι γεννά και αναπαράγει άλλες κρίσεις. Επιβάλλεται, να προσπαθήσουμε να διασώσουμε τους ανθρώπους μέσα από τα ιδεώδη του ανθρωπισμού, της χριστιανικής πίστης και της παράδοσής μας.

    Η Εκκλησία, αν και έχει πρωταρχικό στόχο να οδηγήσει τον άνθρωπο στο Θεό, στην ιστορική της πορεία δεν έμεινε αδιάφορη απέναντι στα προβλήματα της κοινωνίας. Σε κάθε εποχή αγωνιζόταν για την ανόρθωση και την αξιοπρέπεια των ανθρώπων και συμπορευόταν με τα αιτήματα και τις ανάγκες τους. Η Εκκλησία υπάρχει πάντοτε και δρα μέσα στον κόσμο και για τον κόσμο. Μάχεται την αδικία και πολεμά την ανομία. Δεν είναι μόνο ιατρείο για τους πνευματικά ασθενείς, αλλά περιθάλπει τους πεινασμένους, τους ενδεείς, τους αδύναμους οικονομι*κά και φροντίζει τους ανήμπορους. Προσφέρει ελπίδα στους απελπισμένους και αγκαλιάζει όλη την κοινωνία. Θέλει να δώσει προοπτική στους νέους ανθρώπους και να τους αποσύρει από τις ποικίλες εξαρτήσεις. Αγωνίζεται να εξαλείψει τη φτώχεια, την ανασφάλεια, την ανεργία, την κάθε μορφής δουλεία και εξαθλίωση. Με λόγο προφητικό, σύγχρονο, νε*ανικό και απελευθερωτικό αντιστέκεται στα πονηρά συστήματα του κόσμου. Υποστηρίζει τις πνευματικές και ψυχικές αναζητήσεις. Είναι ο μοναδικός οργανισμός που στέκεται αδιάκοπα δίπλα στον άνθρωπο. Με πρακτικές που καλύπτουν τις υλικές ανάγκες των ανθρώπων χωρίς εθνικές, φυλετικές ή θρησκευτικές διακρίσεις προσπαθεί να λύσει τα προβλήματα. Κάθε ενορία επιτελεί έργο ανάλογο των αναγκών των ανθρώπων της. Προσφέρει φαγητό, φάρμακα, βοηθήματα και περίθαλψη. Καλλιεργεί την εθελοντική προσφορά και την οικονομική συνεισφορά, όπως η πρώτη εκκλησιαστική κοινότητα με τις «αγάπες». Είναι η μαρτυρία της έμπρακτης και ανιδιοτελούς αγάπης. Ο λαός μας πέρασε και άλλοτε και φτώ*χεια και εξαθλίωση, αλλά νίκησε γιατί είχε πνεύμα αγάπης. Με το ίδιο πνεύμα, σαν ένα σώμα, σαν μια οικογένεια συσπειρωμένοι αναζητώντας νόημα ζωής στην αγάπη, πιστεύουμε ότι θα βγούμε από τη σημερινή δύσκολη περίσταση. Ονειρευόμαστε να κάνουμε πράξη μια κοινωνία δικαίου, ευημερίας και αλληλεγγύης. Να μετουσιώσουμε την απελπισία, την απόγνωση, την ανασφάλεια, την αβεβαιότητα και τα προβλήματα, σε ελπίδα, σιγουριά, θάρρος, προοπτική, εργατικότητα, αλληλεγγύη και συνεργασία. Να γκρεμίσουμε τη σύγχρονη Βαβέλ και να ανακτήσουμε την επικοινωνία με το Θεό και τους συνανθρώπους μας. Να δημιουργήσουμε ένα κόσμο καινούργιο, να ανοικοδομήσουμε μια πραγματική «βασιλεία του Θεού».

    Στην ενορία μου υπάρχουν άνθρωποι, ντόπιοι και μετανάστες από διάφορες χώρες, που έχουν υλικές ανάγκες (τρόφιμα, ρούχα, φάρμακα, κλπ), και άλλοι που χρειάζονται ανθρώπινη συμπαράσταση για να επιβιώσουν (βοήθεια στην καθημερινή καθαριότητα, να τους δώσει κάποιος τα φάρμακά τους, ψυχολογική στήριξη). Μέχρι τώρα μεγάλο μέρος των αναγκών κάλυπτε η ενορία ή τους βοηθούσαν κάποια ιδρύματα ιδιωτικά ή δημόσια με τη χρηματοδότηση του κράτους. Το τελευταίο διάστημα με νέα μέτρα από το κράτος, τα κριτήρια για τη χρηματοδότηση έγιναν αυστηρότερα, περιόρισαν τους δικαιούχους και ουσιαστικά πέταξαν στην τύχη τους ανθρώπους που δεν μπορούν να επιβιώσουν χωρίς βοήθεια. Κάθε βοήθεια κάθε προσφορά σε είδη ή χρήματα, μπορεί να τους ανακουφίσει. Θα του χρωστούμε ευγνωμοσύνη και θα προσευχόμαστε για όλους όσο αναπνέομε.

    π. Μιχαήλ Βλαβογιλάκης, είμαι εφημέριος της ενορίας Καλυβών, διευθυντής του Κοινωφελούς Ιδρύματος «Αγία Σοφία» που φροντίζει για 130 ανθρώπους εμπερίστατους στην περιοχή του Αποκόρωνα.
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    We live in a time when man has the opportunity to solve all his problems. However, the world community is now faced with tragic social and personal obstacles, a crisis that is economic, moral and spiritual. Our country in the past three years has been plagued by an unprecedented economic crisis that has caused uncertainty, insecurity and fear in people: A crisis that is social and economic, but at its core deeply spiritual. Human rights which were taken for granted are abolished daily, secular achievements are violently overturned, principles and values are questioned, all of these causing radical upheavals in our society. Our country is oppressed, making us feel that we are under occupation and prisoners of our lenders. Our leaders did not serve the interests of the people but became solely interested in the possession of power. We as a people acted irresponsibly, recently experienced a false sense of well-being, indulged in easy profit, and claimed rights at the expense of our fellows while indifferent for social cohesion. Without realizing it we lived and witnessed a tragedy: interested in the present we lost the real meaning of life. We surrendered to consumption, tolerated corruption, unconcerned for the future that we were preparing for our children. We continue to recognize and acknowledge our responsibilities. We do not believe that this crisis that afflicts our country will be solved through loans, memorandums and international advisors. It is known that an intellectual crisis gives birth to and recreates other crises. It is very important to try to rescue the people through the ideals of humanism and of the Christian faith and tradition.

    Even though the Church has as its primary purpose to lead man to God, in her historic course has not been indifferent to the problems of society. Each time she fought for the recovery and the dignity of human beings and walked hand in hand with their demands and needs. The Church always exists and acts in the world for the world, fighting injustice and lawlessness. Acting not only as a healer for the mentally ill, but also harbouring the hungry, the needy, the economically disadvantaged, caring for the helpless, offering hope to the desperate and embracing society as a whole. The Church wants to give young people perspective and draw them away from the various dependencies. She strives to eliminate poverty, insecurity, unemployment, every form of slavery and degradation, with a speech that is prophetic, modern, youthful and liberating. The Church is the only organization that continually stands next to man with practices that meet the physical needs of people without ethnic, racial or religious discrimination. Each parish is doing work that is analogous to the needs of its people. Offering food, medicine, aid and care, the Church cultivates voluntary and economic contribution, in a manner similar to that of the first Christian communities. Our people have gone through poverty and misery before, but emerged victorious through the spirit of love. In the same spirit, as one body, as a family united in seeking meaningful life in love, that’s how we believe that we will come out from the present difficult situation. To transform hopelessness, despair, insecurity, and uncertainty, into hope, confidence, courage, vision, industriousness, solidarity and cooperation. To tear down the modern Babel and restore communication with God and our fellow human beings. To create a new world, to rebuild a true “Kingdom of God”.

    In my parish there are people, both locals and immigrants from different countries, that have physical needs (food, clothes, medicines, etc), and others who need human sympathy to survive (assistance to daily cleanliness, someone to give them their medicines, psychological support). Until now a large part of these needs were covered by the parish or through the help of private institutions or public institutions with financing from the state. Lately with the new measures introduced by the Greek state, the criteria for funding were made much more stringent and the numbers of recipients were restricted, essentially leaving people that cannot survive without help to fend for themselves. Any form of assistance whether in terms of items or money can help to relieve these people. We owe People in Need a debt of gratitude and will pray for all for as long as we breathe.

    Father Michael Vlavogilakis, I am the priest of the parish of Kalyves, director of the public institution “Agia Sofia” that is responsible for 130 people living in the area of Apokoronas.

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    Suicide, in a developed and still relatively rich country, because of lack of food is heartbreaking. It is almost certainly going to happen in Ireland, because there are sections of the population with no entitlement to benefits.

    Something is very wrong indeed with the way our society has gone.

    In the meantime, I would advise hungry people to ask for and take what they need, if the alternative is to starve, and not to be ashamed of it. Live to fight another day. But that isn't any kind of solution, and is only a stopgap, like emergency and charity food supplies.

    A big change in political priorities is needed.
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    A big change in political priorities is needed.
    That's for starters. I am just back from a fairly long "session" with one of the local olive farmers. He and his family have been olive farmers for generations, and their olive grove is the pride of the family. 1218 lovingly tended trees.
    Last year he ran into problems because EU imposed changes in the law stopped him from earning his "bread and butter" by selling local oil to local people, who would go up to the farm with any empty bottle(s) they could find and buy whatever amount of oil the needed. This was deemed to be against new Health & Safety laws, and fines were handed out. Leaving the man with a massive headache, because all he could now do was either sell to a wholesaler who simply wouldn't pay anything near enough to cover the cost, leave alone have a life, or, he could develop a brand, start bottling (in legal bottles of course) and hope to get a price sufficient to cover the cost of running the farm, earning a living and paying for the loans to set up the business. If there were any loans to be had, of course. For 9 months he has been running into brick walls, getting nowhere and nothing, and rapidly running out of money.
    It came to a head last Friday when a "business advisor" from the bank told him that the best thing he could do was chop the trees and sell them for firewood. At least that way,
    he could honour his previous commitments to the bank
    .
    The advisor was lucky to get away from the farm alive. But did send the farmer into a massive depression, which culminated in his wife and daughter calling for help because they suspected he would do something drastic. He would. He had just finished writing his suicide note when we arried, and was getting ready to walk into his grove for the last time and die amongsts the trees he tended to for the last 45 years or so.
    Our state employed, unpaid psychotherapist is now looking after him and his family, while we look into any and every possibility that would give this man a reason to live again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Suicide, in a developed and still relatively rich country, because of lack of food is heartbreaking. It is almost certainly going to happen in Ireland, because there are sections of the population with no entitlement to benefits.

    Something is very wrong indeed with the way our society has gone.

    In the meantime, I would advise hungry people to ask for and take what they need, if the alternative is to starve, and not to be ashamed of it. Live to fight another day. But that isn't any kind of solution, and is only a stopgap, like emergency and charity food supplies.

    A big change in political priorities is needed.
    Its going to happen and is happening based on anecdotal evidence. Looking at the countryside in Meath and Westmeath there is a huge increase allegedly of suicides and a lot of these in rural communities (farming being the highest I think). We need to battle the cuts coming down the line.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ephilant View Post
    That's for starters. I am just back from a fairly long "session" with one of the local olive farmers. He and his family have been olive farmers for generations, and their olive grove is the pride of the family. 1218 lovingly tended trees.
    Last year he ran into problems because EU imposed changes in the law stopped him from earning his "bread and butter" by selling local oil to local people, who would go up to the farm with any empty bottle(s) they could find and buy whatever amount of oil the needed. This was deemed to be against new Health & Safety laws, and fines were handed out. Leaving the man with a massive headache, because all he could now do was either sell to a wholesaler who simply wouldn't pay anything near enough to cover the cost, leave alone have a life, or, he could develop a brand, start bottling (in legal bottles of course) and hope to get a price sufficient to cover the cost of running the farm, earning a living and paying for the loans to set up the business. If there were any loans to be had, of course. For 9 months he has been running into brick walls, getting nowhere and nothing, and rapidly running out of money.
    It came to a head last Friday when a "business advisor" from the bank told him that the best thing he could do was chop the trees and sell them for firewood. At least that way,
    .
    The advisor was lucky to get away from the farm alive. But did send the farmer into a massive depression, which culminated in his wife and daughter calling for help because they suspected he would do something drastic. He would. He had just finished writing his suicide note when we arried, and was getting ready to walk into his grove for the last time and die amongsts the trees he tended to for the last 45 years or so.
    Our state employed, unpaid psychotherapist is now looking after him and his family, while we look into any and every possibility that would give this man a reason to live again.
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    Like the rest of the country, livid. I spoke to his daughter today, who tells me he is raging with anger. Telling him to cut down those trees was the drop that spilled the bucket. They might as well have told him to kill his wife and daughter.
    She thinks he is now capable of doing anything, and all it will take is the slightest provocation. Very much like the rest of us. It is not for nothing that the vote tomorrow is being held at midnight. The obvious intention is to get this through with as little disruption as possible.
    I think they might be miscalculating. These people are ready to blow, and when they do, God help anybody who stands in their way...

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