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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AhT8CHIbG8"]Welcome to Ireland Stat - Video Introduction - YouTube[/ame]


    he objective of Ireland Stat is to provide you with a whole-of-Government performance measurement system. It aims to show you what Ireland’s Government has achieved, what it did in order to deliver on those achievements, what it cost and how Ireland compares with other countries. In a nutshell it answers the question “How is Ireland doing?”
    http://www.irelandstat.gov.ie/About.aspx

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    Before anyone disses the effort, the concept has been widely praised in the US.

    Back in 99 current Md. Gov. and then Mayor of Baltimore, Martin O’Malley, introduced the concept for the city and again for the state when he became governor in 2007. It has been widely praised and adopted by lots of other jurisdictions. Remains to be seen of course how it is implemented in Ireland. I got the sense from the video that they were stepping gingerly.

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    LET ME BE THE FIRST!!

    Sorry Count, but in Ireland this sort of stuff is just designed to make eejits out of the population.
    The sad thing is it it is taken seriously.

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    Like Dailwatch, we can only wait and see.
    I dont know if we are going to see much released that would undermine the government.

    Ireland Stat's sponsors are Brendan Howlin, T.D., Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform and Brian Hayes, T.D., Minister of State at the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. The Steering Group includes senior representatives from the Central Statistics Office, the Institute of Public Administration, the Economic and Social Research Institute and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. It has been delivered to you by the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform.
    Nothing going to rock the boat there imo. The lengths already required to pry information out of this crowd are well..
    Hope don't end up with another merrionstreet

    Time will tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    Before anyone disses the effort, the concept has been widely praised in the US.

    Back in 99 current Md. Gov. and then Mayor of Baltimore, Martin O’Malley, introduced the concept for the city and again for the state when he became governor in 2007. It has been widely praised and adopted by lots of other jurisdictions. Remains to be seen of course how it is implemented in Ireland. I got the sense from the video that they were stepping gingerly.

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...effectiveness/
    Was there not a popular HBO series out a few years ago that was critical of Baltimore's obssession with the stat game.
    I actually drove around Baltimore during the summer to see some of the filming locations and was surprised at how bad it was. There was real poverty and groups of children standing on corners presumably selling drugs.
    Do the right thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie Lee View Post
    Was there not a popular HBO series out a few years ago that was critical of Baltimore's obssession with the stat game.
    I actually drove around Baltimore during the summer to see some of the filming locations and was surprised at how bad it was. There was real poverty and groups of children standing on corners presumably selling drugs.
    It’s absolutely true that Baltimore has serious drug and poverty problems, including 16,000 abandoned houses in a city of 650,000. Citystat was not designed to solve that problem, rather to make agencies more accountable by publishing weekly figures, and in that respect it is considered a success. That said I believe there was almost nowhere to go but up. Some US city bureaucracies would make some Irish government agencies look like superstars, but others would make them look like idiots. There is a wide spread when it comes to government competence in the US.
    As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the best information. Benjamin Disraeli
    Secrecy is for losers. For people who do not know how important the information really is.
    Daniel Patrick Moynihan - Secrecy: The American Experience (1998)

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