[quote=Sam Lord;287851]We're miles into silly territory with this.What does not make sense is your apparent belief that MI5 or MI6, for example, are in the business of assessing the battle readiness of the British armed forces. I can assure you they are not. That is the business of the British Army. Similarly I can assure you that the CIA does not have a section devoted to assessing the state of the American Armed forces and produces no reports in that regard. I can just imagine the reaction of the Pentagon if they tried.
Neither of us were there. But we do have eyewitness accounts. And you maintained that Collins never fired a shot. Many Generals don't ever fire a shot. But Collins didn't hesitate to fight when ambushed and that is a bit of an insight which overturns your implication that he wasn't a fighter.I'm not entirely convinced that you know very much about that day or the period in general for that matter.
So what? Some of the biggest chancers in Ireland made a point and some still do of attending mass daily. And this was near enough a century back.There is no historical dispute, to my knowledge, about the fact of him attending mass there daily.
No idea what you are on about?I know someone else who had a close connection with the Brompton Oratory. Her name started with H.
And if you think that the catholic church doesn't play both ends in any conflict with the sole purpose of being seen to be on the 'right' side at the end of it you don't know anything about that organisation.If you think the Catholic Church in Ireland was playing both ends in the Civil War then you have an even sketchier understanding of the period than I hitherto suspected.
If you are trying to imply they were foursquare behind one side or the other you'd be wrong. The Jesuits were the church's intelligence operation at that time and they were masters at it.