IPSOS MRBI Oct 17 2012 FG 31% FF 21% SF 20% : Lab 12% Ind 16% - 73% dissat with Gov

[Baron von Biffo]

Not just Reilly. All the sheep voting confidence in him too. Because their whip told them to

FG may have Shortall to thank for sparing them from a bigger hit from Reilly's bungling. Her maladroit handling of the whole affair deflected the spotlight off him and onto her martyrs pyre.

[C. Flower]

The frightening thing is that after all that has happened FF/FG/Labour still have the support of nearly 2/3 of the electorate.

"Always keep a-hold of nurse, for fear of finding something worse"

[Shaadi]

A FF/SF/LAB rainbow on the cards?

[Baron von Biffo]

A FF/SF/LAB rainbow on the cards?

3 rats in a bag would work together better.

[Shaadi]

3 rats in a bag would work together better.

The winner will be declared King Rat.

Actually three parties with approximately a 3/3/2 split seems a good deal for them all. Better for any of them than being FGs buttwipes, which is what FF as junior partners in a FG/FF coalition would be.

[antiestablishmentarian]

Why? After everything that's happened, mass unemployment, emigration, corruption, and contempt for.democracy and the electorate, why are 21% of people supporting FF again? There's no rational explanation, even though FG/Lab are the same :/ is it something in the water?

[Sidewinder]

There's no rational explanation

It's Ireland.

There's no rational explanation for anything that goes on in that asylum.

[Slim Buddha]

Hard to see if this figures mean anything.The creep upwards of Fianna Fail is strange but I suppose if Labour goes down somebody has to go up. No election will occur in the near future and these polls are pretty meaningless in themselves. But they will exercise the minds of the politicos and those engaged in what passes for politics in Ireland.

At the end of the day. Wolfgang Schäuble will have to approve the budget. And we can thank Fianna Fail for that.

[jmcc]

The margin of error on the survey is 3% but that didn't stop the Oirish Times indulging in a bit of SF bashing even if it had to hold its nose and promote FF.

The important results are not the party percentages but rather the dissatisfaction rating for the government, the percentage of independents and the undecided voters. The figures apparently exclude those who were undecided. This is the real shock - the percentage, according to Collins' article is one third of the survey and by extension the electorate. That's 33.3% - bigger than the rating of any political party.

Regards...jmcc

[Greengoddess]

The margin of error on the survey is 3% but that didn't stop the Oirish Times indulging in a bit of SF bashing even if it had to hold its nose and promote FF.

The important results are not the party percentages but rather the dissatisfaction rating for the government, the percentage of independents and the undecided voters. The figures apparently exclude those who were undecided. This is the real shock - the percentage, according to Collins' article is one third of the survey and by extension the electorate. That's 33.3% - bigger than the rating of any political party.

Regards...jmcc

I agree . But how do explain party support then for FG? Is it " we still support you even if you are doing a bad job" ? The support for FF is depressing in the extreme but understandable. In the bailout countries we see incumbents being in trouble everywhere and a return, in Spain for instance , to the recently outed Socialists. It is human desire to escape. You will soon see it in at least some of the Government TDS. Especially if they don't see action on the debt.

[Slim Buddha]

I agree . But how do explain party support then for FG? Is it " we still support you even if you are doing a bad job" ? The support for FF is depressing in the extreme but understandable. In the bailout countries we see incumbents being in trouble everywhere and a return, in Spain for instance , to the recently outed Socialists. It is human desire to escape. You will soon see it in at least some of the Government TDS. Especially if they don't see action on the debt.

It is incumbent on Labour in particular to remind the electorate of the specific crimes of FF and to repeat again and again why FF are unelectable. Voting FFmust be seen to be unacceptable behaviour and if this government does nothing else, it has to prevent the return of FF, particularly if it wont proscribe FF which would be the proper thing to do. After all, FF did commit economic treason and a solid case can be made for proscribing it.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

It's Ireland.

There's no rational explanation for anything that goes on in that asylum.

Believe it or not Sidey, i suspect what we are seeing is that weird little 15% -20% in the civil and public service beginning to comprehend that the Croke Park caper that protects them from the worst of the depression is going to go and now they are swivelling back to the other patronage party (Fianna Fail) who they think understands how the backscratch system works.

I'm convinced that the 15% to 17% bedrock Fianna Fail are the patronage system within the public and civil service and that figure moving substantially is a signal of the patronage crew looking for an new or old sugar daddy.

[Baron von Biffo]

Hard to see if this figures mean anything.The creep upwards of Fianna Fail is strange but I suppose if Labour goes down somebody has to go up.

Lab went up 2% in this poll.

[Slim Buddha]

Lab went up 2% in this poll.

Sorry, I wasn't looking when they went down to 10%. Ultimately, though, does any of this matter when Schäuble has effective power of veto on the Budget?

[Richardbouvet]

I think pollsters need to start giving FF voters special attention, Everytime a respondent says they are voting FF, they should be asked to give a reason. I would SO love to hear some of the answers.