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    ..........The Orchard before .................................................. .................... my proposal.......................................... .... ........... and what the greedy Council gave us.
    .................................................. .................................................. (Kilmainham Gaol in background)....................................... .................................................. ......................

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    Last edited by riposte; 12-10-2012 at 12:35 AM.
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    Sorry to hear your proposal didn't get accepted.
    Have you ever considered making a contribution to local councillors/TDs and officials in the area?
    In case this all goes pear-shaped, I'll bid you adieu

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    Quote Originally Posted by riposte View Post
    ..........The Orchard before .................................................. .................... my proposal.......................................... .... ........... and what the greedy Council gave us.
    .................................................. .................................................. (Kilmainham Gaol in background)....................................... .................................................. ......................

    Kilmainham Gaol being in the area that would have been a nice addition to it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by musashi View Post
    Sorry to hear your proposal didn't get accepted.
    Have you ever considered making a contribution to local councillors/TDs and officials in the area?
    In terms of ideas, or in a brown envelope ?
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
    — Jean-Paul Sartre

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    In terms of ideas, or in a brown envelope ?
    I tried both ...... without success...... lol !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by musashi View Post
    Sorry to hear your proposal didn't get accepted.
    Have you ever considered making a contribution to local councillors/TDs and officials in the area?
    The council took this derelict site under compulsory purchase at our request. ( Heritage group). The City Architect ( Jim Barrett) designed a heritage centre (a round tower) to be placed on the site.

    Then one day I was in the office (1997) when the local area manager told me it was up for sale. The Council sold our heritage site for € 1.7Million

    Councillor Vincent Jackson put a motion before the council (at my request) asking that the sale be blocked. It was supported by the other independents, Sinn Fein (4) Eric Byrne, John Gallagher Gay Mitchell, and Mary Mooney (Fianna fail.) Doncha O'Dulaing, The Heritage Officer opposed the motion saying "the site was of no historical significance." ( It so happens that Henry Joy McCracken passed this way,Robert Emmet passed this way on his way to be hanged and the executed 1916 Leaders all passed around this corner on their way to be executed having been court-martialed in Richmond Barracks)

    The site was Zoned Z for recreational and amenity purposes. ( The Council's prospectus for the property allowed for a 5 Storey Block of Mixed development and the Council subsequently gave planning permission for such a development despite it being at total variance with the zoning. Bord Pleanala reduced this to 4 stories ( God Bless them) but ignored the Z zoning requirement)

    In the Local Area Plan this corner was designated "The Gateway To Inchicore."

    The City Manager John Fitzgerald said that if the sale was blocked he would leave the site derelict for the next 10 years. However, he gave an under-taking that if the sale was allowed to go ahead he would guarantee that any development on the site would be sympathetic to the National Monuments around the site (namely Kilaminham Gaol and The RHK)


    I agreed to the motion being withdrawn on the basis of this under-taking.

    Once the councillors agreed to the sale ......... all promises were forgotten and greed took over. Two appeals to An Bord Pleanala demonstrated that they were no better....... and we wonder why there was a property bubble.

    Naturally, all of these guys are still drawing their inflated salaries protected by the Croke Park Agreement ...... even though they have no work to do as nobody has applied to build anything for the last five years.
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    John Fitzgerald Dublin City Manager 1996-2006

    JOHN Fitzgerald went from managing the capital city throughout the boom to spearheading Limerick's multimillion euro regeneration project.

    From a small farming background, he grew up in a Co Limerick village at the foot of the Galtee Mountains. After his Leaving Cert, he got a job in the Revenue Commissioners. He studied by night to qualify as an accountant. He later worked at Chadwick's Builders Providers in Dublin and Cork.

    Fitzgerald then moved to Cork Corporation, where he had his first taste of city management. He went on to Dublin Corporation as city treasurer. He rose to assistant city manager and subsequently manager of South Dublin County Council.

    He became city manager of Dublin City Council (DCC) in June 1996. The construction boom and the matching economic upsurge gave him an annual budget of €2bn to work with and a staff of 6,000.

    The city was being transformed by development, from tic-tac box apartments to grand projects and landmark buildings. Under his management, O'Connell Street was modernised into a sleek boulevard, slum blocks of council flats were rebuilt and the docklands and other formerly derelict areas of the city centre were transformed.
    http://www.independent.ie/business/i...d-2353403.html
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    Backstairs deals between officials in the council and a developer

    Dublin City Council should be the first to investigate allegations of wrongdoing between the council and developers of the historic 1916 site in Moore Street, Minister for Education Ruairí Quinn has told the Dáil.

    Sinn Féin deputy leader Mary Lou McDonald called for Government action following allegations of what she called "backstairs deals" between officials in the council and a developer, to the advantage of that builder.

    The allegations were made last night in a TG4 documentary, Iniúchadh Oidhreacht na Cásca, about the proposed development of the Moore Street area, where the leaders of the 1916 Rising met for the last time and signed the surrender.

    http://www.tg4.ie/en/tg4-player/tg4-...itle=Anamnocht

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...reaking25.html
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    He chairs the National Transport Authority and An Post and the Grangegorman Development Agency. He is on the board of the HSE.

    His name has been mooted as a possible candidate for Mayor of Dublin.
    ......
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