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    Quote Originally Posted by bernadette View Post
    That's the sad thing. We investigate and expose them, at great expense, and then we file it somewhere deep and dark. I don't know why we bother with the investigation at all at all.
    To be seen to be doing something. But since all sorts of criminality has been legitimised mainly by, it has to be said, Fianna Fail administrations since 1980, the enquiries are a great way to be seen to be doing something while actually doing nothing whatsoever. Apart from enriching lawyers. The papers will publish the Enquiry's "findings" and we move on the the next clusterphuq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim Buddha View Post
    To be seen to be doing something. But since all sorts of criminality has been legitimised mainly by, it has to be said, Fianna Fail administrations since 1980, the enquiries are a great way to be seen to be doing something while actually doing nothing whatsoever. Apart from enriching lawyers. The papers will publish the Enquiry's "findings" and we move on the the next clusterphuq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim Buddha View Post
    Heavy duty establishment figures like Jeffrey Archer and Jonathan Aitken have gone to prison in Great Britain. Any parallel exist in Ireland?? No, I thought not.
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    I see the 'nothing to see here' church merchants are out in force hoping somehow to convince everyone that the poor church is maligned while the rest of society is rumping kiddies by the new time.

    We're at about 3,000 priests removed from the priesthood globally in the catholic church and thats only the ones the church itself has defrocked. That doesn't count the others who died before being exposed, the ones hidden away in monasteries and 'treatment centres' and so on.

    The BBC, Scouts and other organisations have some way to go before they catch up with the industrial sized abuse harvester that is the Catholic Church.

    And there is no suggestion that the BBC ever tried to transfer Jimmy Saville to the Blue Peter studios.
    Think National. Act Local. Oh- and superstition is just the dark matter of human history.

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    A 15 year old girl committed suicide and named Saville and other BBC DJs as having "used" her. He was 44 at the time.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ic-legacy.html
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    Sky News just replayed a portion of an interview Saville did with Newstalk and they asked about the allegations.

    His response? Allegations, no no. That's all false

    The Mirror suggest digging him up

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    Sky News just replayed a portion of an interview Saville did with Newstalk and they asked about the allegations.

    His response? Allegations, no no. That's all false

    The Mirror suggest digging him up

    Strange I find myself wishing he were still alive so he could stand trial and be crucified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    Sky News just replayed a portion of an interview Saville did with Newstalk and they asked about the allegations.

    His response? Allegations, no no. That's all false

    The Mirror suggest digging him up
    The Newstalk interview is here http://www.newstalk.ie/2012/featured...alk-interview/
    "The land Coillte Teo is now selling for development was given to them by the State in 1988 to ensure that our woodlands were run commercially, not to enable them to sell the family silver to service bank loans".
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    All over the Brit papers tomorrow





    "The land Coillte Teo is now selling for development was given to them by the State in 1988 to ensure that our woodlands were run commercially, not to enable them to sell the family silver to service bank loans".
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    The great Chris Morris was defintely on to him back in 94.
    http://soundcloud.com/ultraculture/c...-jimmy-saviles
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    Excellent piece in the Telegraph on Savile, Jersey and how it is only the tip of an iceberg.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...e-iceberg.html
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    Peter Rippon the Newsnight editor has gone. From Guido Fawkes

    http://order-order.com/2012/10/22/ri...ous-statement/

    Its not enough, needs to go a lot higher I think but its a start.

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    Over on other sites they are discussing Saville links to the Army ....

    They may crush the flowers, and trample every living thing but they cant stop the spring..

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    I don't want to go to far off topic but I was shocked when I came across this 1998 article in the Independent and was wondering did any prosecutions ever arise?

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    In Dublin senior officers from the Sexual Assault and Domestic Violence unit based at Harcourt Square are still conducting a major investigation into an organised child sex ring involving girls as young as 12.

    One alleged ringleader is presently before the courts, but gardai have now widened their investigations in their efforts to crack a significant paedophile network for the first time. Further arrests are expected. Some vulnerable children, many of them homeless or in care, have been drawn into `survival sex' selling their bodies for money.

    Along the east coast a core group of about 30 serial paedophiles have been identified so far, many of them professional, middle-aged married men. Businessmen, managing directors and wealthy property-owners who are willing to travel long distances to indulge their sick perversion are major figures in the network.

    Evidence began to emerge in Dundalk two years ago when suspicious activities at a phone box in the centre of the town came to the attention of youth workers. As darkness fell each evening the youngsters, of both sexes emerged from the side streets and outlying housing estates around Dundalk.

    Drawn by the promise of money, gifts and alcohol, the children would wait for a phonecall to the coinbox. Arrangements would be made. Many of the paedophiles had their own favourites and would be checking on their availability.

    Within moments a car, sometimes a top of the range executive saloon would pull up and the victim would step quickly into the front seat. From there they would be taken to secluded locations around the town, the racecourse, the industrial estates, and the coast, where they would be subjected to the vilest forms of sexual abuse.

    Although many of the paedophiles operated independently, some of the youngsters say there was also collusion between groups of men. They told childcare workers they were video-taped during group sex sessions.

    Brian Doyle, a youth project manager based in Dundalk, has been highlighting the sexual exploitation of children in the area for more than two years. He believes that Dundalk is the geographic centre of a major paedophile ring operating along the east coast.

    ``The dogs in the street know about it and who is involved. It is not confined to Dundalk but it would seem to one of the central locations.''

    Doyle believes that since the problem was first highlighted, it has worsened but the perpetrators have gone further underground. The phone box is no longer the focal point and meeting places change frequently. ``The situation seems to have disimproved. What happens is that when these men feel they are at risk of being caught, they become cleverer and get more of a thrill out of it.

    ``They may even become more active. The higher the risk the greater the buzz for them but they also become more dangerous. These men are by no means on the dole. Many of them are professionals who arrive in Mercedes and BMWs.''
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    I think one of the ugliest trends to emerge from the scandals here is we now regularly see some quarters seizing on cases of abuse & institutional failure elsewhere. As if comparing or highlighting other examples somehow excuses part of or even legitimises certain behavior here.

    Suggests a real bitterness, in the perception of the treatment the church has received.

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