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    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    Ireland is not Greece but Spain might be Ireland. Except, of course, the EU will do whatever it takes to help Spain as if Spain goes, the euro goes.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...e-cost-eu.html
    Spain exits One year €41.3 BN Banks "bailout" from ESM but with not quite the fanfare we Irish heralded !

    No precautionary credit line either.

    Spain will not request any follow-up assistance from the ESM,” the statement said.
    Ireland has just exited its bailout programme, without seeking any credit-line safety net.
    The Spanish “government’s determined reform efforts and the people’s readiness to accept temporary hardship for the sake of a sustainable recovery are exemplary,” Regling said.
    “The Spanish success shows that our strategy of providing temporary loans against strong conditionality is working.”
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    Well I was wrong. Spain is not in agony. The rich / upper middle class haven't felt a thing according to the IMF.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/03...hed-by-crisis/

    http://elpais.com/elpais/2014/03/21/...67_056393.html

    There are mainly of unemployed people or people about to be evicted marching to Madrid from across the country.

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    Seems to be one of the biggest protests in recent years according to reports this evening. Police now breaking it up with baton charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Well I was wrong. Spain is not in agony. The rich / upper middle class haven't felt a thing according to the IMF.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/03...hed-by-crisis/

    http://elpais.com/elpais/2014/03/21/...67_056393.html

    There are mainly of unemployed people or people about to be evicted marching to Madrid from across the country.

    Estimated numbers on the march range from 1m to 2m ...
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    This march will not shift a single government policy. How come the pro-suaterity rightists in Kiev are able to get their way, while ant-austerity demos get nowhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richardbouvet View Post
    This march will not shift a single government policy. How come the pro-suaterity rightists in Kiev are able to get their way, while ant-austerity demos get nowhere?
    Far right politics lends itself to the idea that where there is a vaccum then they fill it often with a slick PR machine. The Nazis did it in the thirties blaming the Jewish population of Germany for their economic woes, this case its Russian and Ukranian nationalists citing incursions and military actions by their neighbour as being the root of the issue. Getting the locals frothing at the mouth whips them into a frenzy, they march at some perceived slight. Right wing marches serve the elite, its in the interest to have a united class front that is readily exploitable. Anti austerity demos only service the working class , elite politicians do not want to lose thier grip on society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richardbouvet View Post
    This march will not shift a single government policy. How come the pro-suaterity rightists in Kiev are able to get their way, while ant-austerity demos get nowhere?
    Far right politics lends itself to the idea that where there is a vaccum then they fill it often with a slick PR machine. The Nazis did it in the thirties blaming the Jewish population of Germany for their economic woes, this case its Russian and Ukranian nationalists citing incursions and military actions by their neighbour as being the root of the issue. Getting the locals frothing at the mouth whips them into a frenzy, they march at some perceived slight. Right wing marches serve the elite, its in the interest to have a united class front that is readily exploitable. Anti austerity demos only service the working class , elite politicians do not want to lose thier grip on society.
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    Cave dwellers in Granada are now being evicted.

    What next? Evictions from footpaths ?

    http://flintmag.com/las-cuevas-caves/
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    About 100,000 people gathered in Madrid yesterday, marching for "Bread, a job, a roof". - Also, against cuts in education.

    There are half a million people in Spain with no income.

    More than 23% of young people are unemployed.

    There are a series of protests planned and a general strike called for October, before the elections.


    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/0...200719255.html
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    Under the new Citizen Safety Law or Ley Mordaza (Gag Law) as human rights defenders have renamed it, public protests, freedoms of speech and the press and documenting police abuses will become crimes punishable by heavy fines and/or jail. Some key points on the Ley Mordaza:

    Photographing or recording police – 600 to 30.000€ fine.
    Peaceful disobedience to authority – 600 to 30.000€ fine.
    Occupying banks as means of protest – 600 to 30.000€ fine.
    Not formalizing a protest – 600 to 30.000€ fine.
    For carrying out assemblies or meetings in public spaces – 100 to 600€ fine.
    For impeding or stopping an eviction – 600 to 30.000€ fine.
    For presence at an occupied space (not only social centers but also houses occupied by evicted families) – 100 to 600€ fine.
    Police black lists for protesters, activists and alternative press have been legalized.
    Meeting or gathering in front of Congress – 600 to 30.000€ fine.
    Appealing the fines in court requires the payment of judicial costs, whose amount depends on the fine.
    It allows random identity checks, allowing for racial profiling of immigrants and minorities.
    Police can now carry out raids at their discretion, without the need for “order” to have been disrupted.
    External bodily searches are also now allowed at police discretion.
    The government can prohibit any protest at will, if it feels “order” will be disrupted.
    Any ill-defined “critical infrastructure” is now considered a forbidden zone for public gatherings if it might affect their functioning.
    There are also fines for people who climb buildings and monuments without permission. (This has been a common method of protest from organizations like Greenpeace.)
    http://revolution-news.com/spanish-c...the-dark-ages/

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    Blueshirts will be watching closely
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    Innovative response to repression:

    Spanish citizens held the first hologram protest in history in order to protest without violating the new draconian guidelines of the National Security Act, the new amendments to the Penal Code and the Anti-terror law.

    According to the recently approved “triad gag“, the citizens of Spain cannot protest against the Congress or hold meetings in public spaces, plus they have to ask permission from the authorities whenever they wish to protest publicly.

    “If you are a person you can not express yourself freely, you can only do that here if you become a hologram,” says a woman in the video released by the movement “Hologramas para la Libertad.”
    http://revolution-news.com/first-hol...pains-gag-law/

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