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    Timely new blog post from 5intheface, on the 100th anniversary of "the Covenant." Comments welcome here or on the PW Blog -

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    Among the mountain of family documents, photographs, letters and newspaper cuttings which passed to me from my late parents, grandparents and possibly great-grandparents, one piece stands out as particularly historic. It is an original and unsigned copy of the 1912, ‘Ulster’s Solemn League and Covenant’

    It may be flimsy, faded and a little torn at the edges but the words scream ‘No Surrender’, ‘What we have, we hold’ and ‘Ulster will fight and Ulster will be right’ so loud as to echo down to September 28th 2012, exactly 100 years after ‘Ulster Day’ mobilised Unionists across the 9 counties of Ulster in opposition to what they considered the nefarious Third Home Rule Bill.
    Today in Belfast, tens of thousands of the descendants of those signatories are expected to gather to celebrate one of the most glorious chapters from their history. And what better way to celebrate than with a good old, road disrupting parade from all corners of the city, converging on Stormont? There they will praise the Lord Jesus Christ in solemn prayer before trailing their way back through streets, some of which will be lined with every class of Unionism, from the moderately curious to the fanatical Orders and the paramilitaries champing at the bit to provoke a little more sectarian tension.
    Other parts of the route will be empty except for a few dozen protestors who have been told that their rights are less equal than the bandsmen who have behaved so disgracefully in the recent past on the same stretches of road. In some ways, things have in fact changed utterly but in others, they stay the same.
    That’s the context but I’m not that bothered one way or the other. What I want to know is very simple, why and what are they celebrating?
    Possibly it was the line in the sand for Unionism, they could take no more and they would lay down their lives to stop Irish Nationalists and the Church of Rome from destroying all they held dear. Unfortunately for them, the facts are a little less heroic.
    Against a backdrop of demands from the vast majority of Irish people for autonomy at least, sectarian rioting and murder and a British government which was only too keen to be shot of the day to day responsibility of the whole dam lot of them if not their resources, ports and cannon-fodder for future wars, the whole campaign served to heighten the tension and ultimately tear the island apart.
    The Covenant itself and the subsequent importation of arms was to bring about the militarisation of Nationalists, the undermining of Redmondite politics, the war for independence and eventually, the partition of the island, a nightmare feared and predicted by Unionism’s greatest hero, Edward Carson. The document is so swathed in the gnarled Old Testament language of the puritan that it is fairly certain that not one Catholic, not even those in the establishment that were committed to the union, could conceive of signing it.
    The loyalty of Unionism appeared to stretch to threatening treason against their government and the abandonment of their own people in Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan. Where the Irish Proclamation can be criticised on many levels, it did attempt to cherish all its citizens but the new Ulster was to be for one side only, a short-sighted and morally corrupt institution not to mention its thoroughly undemocratic conception.
    The Covenant, we are told, was signed by half a million of the loyal and best with many using their own blood. Well actually, women were not considered equal enough in Unionist eyes either and they got their own little Covenantette to sign, God love them. Very recent investigation has also shown that the blood story is a myth as well.
    On top of that, when the collected copies of the signed covenant were uploaded to the internet last year, the first thing I did was to look for my wife’s maternal relations in Inishowen and Fanad, County Donegal to see if they had also signed. They had! All of them! Even her great-uncles who were, according to the census of the previous year, 3 and 5 years of age and unable to read or write. Not only had they signed but they had signed 3 or 4 times in different locations. Sign early and sign often how are ye?
    As far as I can see, without the filter of history blindness that has pervaded Unionism since its earliest beginnings, the Solemn League and Covenant should be a source of sadness and abject humiliation for Unionism, a miscalculation that lost three-quarters of the island, a third of Ulster and perpetuated mistrust and violence which careered unchecked for the rest of the century.
    Edward Carson had a Cat
    It sat upon the fender
    And every time it caught a mouse
    It shouted ‘No Surrender’.

    5intheface - 29th September 2012

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    good one 5

    History Ireland had a good piece on Carson and the knock on arming of Irish society a few issues back.
    Funny how things work out and how significant the militarisation became in the islands history.

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    Truly dire article by Fintan O'Toole - comparing the Covenant and the Proclamation in a rambling and formalistic way. The main aim of the article seems to come to the predestined end of false harmony even if only to say we have to wait another fifty years.

    Perhaps by the 150th anniversary the word covenant, and the complex idea of loyalty that it contains, will have become common property.
    http://m.irishtimes.com/newspaper/we...8.html?via=rel

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    The Alternative Ulster Covenant

    On the 24th of October 1913, a public meeting titled ‘Protestants against Carsonism’ was held in Ballymoney Town Hall, Co. Antrim. The meeting was called by Rev J. B. Armour, minister of the local Trinity Presbyterian Church and a liberal Home Ruler. Armour was an outspoken critic of the politics of Edward Carson, his Ulster Volunteer Force and the 1912 Ulster Covenant. The town of Ballymoney was chosen as the meeting place because the district had a radical Republican tradition going back to the United Irishmen in the 1790s. In the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries it was also the hotbed of tenant rights agitation among the Protestant tenant farmer population.

    Over five hundred people attended the meeting, which overflowed from the hall onto the street outside. Mottos on the walls proclaimed ‘Ulster for Ireland and Ireland for Ulster’. Those attending included representatives of all social classes. Rev. Armour wanted to demonstrate the level of strong opposition to partition and sectarian politics that existed among Irish Protestants; for this reason the meeting was a Protestant one and Catholics were specifically asked not to attend.
    Two resolutions were passed. The first resolution rejected the claim of Carson to speak for Ulster’s Protestants and it pledged its signatories to lawful resistance to Carson’s activities. The second resolution was put before the meeting by Roger Casement. A British consul from Ballymena, Casement had gained international acclaim for his exposure of the exploitation of native peoples in the Congo and the Putumayo River region in Peru.

    Casement’s resolution read:

    “That this meeting dispute the narrow claim that differences of creed necessarily separate Irishmen and women into hostile camps, affirms its belief that joint public service is the best means of allaying dissensions and promoting patriotism, and calls upon his Majesty's Government to pursue the policy of bringing all Irish men together in one common field of national effort.”

    This resolution was passed unanimously. Various contributions from the floor expressed anger at the thought of the division of Ulster and the exclusion of three of her nine counties. It was argued that if they accepted Home Rule, Irish Protestants would have at least one quarter of the membership of any Dublin parliament to protect them and to look after their interests. Partition, however, would bring about two sectarian states, where the major denomination in each would have too much power and would dominate religious minorities. Religious division rather than cooperation would become the order of the day. Others at the meeting suggested that partition would have a severe negative impact on the economy of Ulster and of Ireland as a whole. Further industrialisation would become difficult and Ulster’s natural farming communities would be divided from each other.

    Casement remarked:

    ‘I have no wish to add to the tensions of the day. I am seeking only to point a way, not to conflict and further embitterment of feeling, but to a peace with honour; a peace for Ireland as a whole and honour for Ulster as the first province of Ireland.’

    He went on:

    ‘Ulstermen have been sold by political trickery, arming and drilling against the perceived enemy. The enemy they are been led against, is no enemy at all: Catholic Ireland, Nationalist Ireland, desires not triumph over Ulster, they seek only friendship and goodwill.’
    Casement appealed to the spirit of 1798, when Irish Catholics and Protestants had fought together for an independent Republic.

    Mrs. Alice Stopford Green spoke next. Daughter of the Church of Ireland Archdeacon of Meath and granddaughter of the Bishop of Meath, she declared that she was present for the honour of the Protestant faith. She reminded the largely Presbyterian audience that both Irish Presbyterians and Catholics had historically been discriminated against by an Anglican, aristocratic ascendancy, and that both had been bond together in the struggle for political and social rights. The future of all Irish Protestants and Catholics lay together, not apart. She touched her audience deeply when she made reference to the Land League: ‘the Protestant farmers of Ulster owe their present prosperity to the legislation obtained by Southern sacrifice’.
    Captain Jack White also spoke. White was the son of a British general and himself a soldier, but his experience in the Boer war would turn him into a strong opponent of British imperialism. White declared that their common Christian faith held each man to be a son of God. ‘But let Protestants remember this: the test of their sonship of God is their brotherhood with man, and those Protestants who think and act towards their Catholic fellow-countrymen as though they were their hereditary enemies had better, for their own sakes, leave the name Protestantism and God out of the question’. This declaration was met with cheering and prolonged applause.

    White proposed a counter covenant to that of Carson’s. The counter covenant read:

    “Being convinced in our conscience that Home Rule will not be disastrous to the national well-being of Ulster, and that, moreover, the responsibility of self-government would strengthen the popular forces in other provinces, would pave the way to a civil and religious freedom, which we do not now possess, and would give scope for a spirit of citizenship, we, in whose names are underwritten, Irish citizens, Protestants, and loyal supporters of Irish Nationality, relying under God on the proven good feelings and democratic instincts in our fellow-countrymen of other creeds, hereby pledge ourselves to stand by one another and our country in the troubled days that are before us and more especially to help one another when our liberties are threatened by any non-statutory body that may be set up in Ulster or elsewhere. We intend to abide by the just laws of the lawful Parliament of Ireland until such time as it may prove itself hostile to democracy. In sure confidence that God will stand by those who stand by the people, irrespective of class or creed, we hereunto subscribe our names.”

    After the meeting the Alternative Covenant was distributed and efforts were made to get a large number of Protestants in the county to sign. It is claimed that twelve thousand people signed the Alternative Covenant. Copies of the signatories were reported to be among Jack White's papers when he died. Unfortunately, White’s family, who did not share his views, made a bonfire of his papers immediately after his funeral.
    The speeches of the three main speakers were subsequently published in a pamphlet entitled ‘A Protestant Protest.’

    After the Ballymoney meeting, a deputation went to meet the British Prime Minister Asquith on the 26th November 1913. The deputation was a mixture of businesspeople, trade unionists and academics, such as Professor Henry of Queens University Belfast, David Campbell of the Belfast Trade Council and Alex Wilson. The deputation emphasised to Asquith that those who were organising the Ulster Volunteer Force, an illegal militia established to resist Home Rule by force, were for the most part landlords, their tenants and their dependants. These paramilitaries did not speak for the Protestants of Ulster.

    Rev. JB Armour was quite vocal in dismissing Carson’s ‘Ulster Day’, the day of the signing of the Solemn League and Covenant, as ‘Protestant fool’s day’. He publicly denounced Carson, the Unionist leader, as ‘a sheer mountebank’ and ‘the greatest enemy of Protestantism’. He even wrote that Carson ought to be tarred and feathered!

    A public platform party against partition was formed. Its forty or so public representatives were distinguished Protestants, such as J. Goold-Verschoyle, Robert Carson, James Hanna, Rev JB Armour, WD. Hamilton and JL. Taggart. Also a member was Alec Wilson, the son of one of the directors of the great ship-building firms Harland and Wolff. Interestingly, Harland and Wolf expressed an indication at the time that they were opposed to partition and that they supported Home Rule.

    Unhappily, the Ballymoney meeting was a once-off and any activity that sprung from it failed to turn the tide of Carsonism. Carson and his followers in the Unionist Party and the UVF rose to popular power in Ulster in a wave of anti-catholic sentiment. The result was the British-imposed partition of Ireland. However, the Ballymoney meeting did show that a significant minority of Protestants in North-East Ulster were opposed to partition.

    At the Ballymoney meeting Roger Casement emphasised the links between ‘the Catholics of Wexford and the Presbyterians of Antrim who had fought together on the same side little more than a hundred years previously’. He said the ‘Protestant Dissenters of Ulster’ had played a very progressive role in Irish history, and what a wonderful contribution they could make to an all-Ireland state. He hoped that Catholics and Protestants would unite and that they would ‘set the Antrim hills ablaze’.
    Unfortunately, this was not to be.
    This has largely been written out of Unionist history, the fact that so many protestants, thousands and thousands, at a time when relations between the two communities were at their most polarized and the orange men at their most reactionary, signed such an alternative covenant does not sit well with their mythology.

    Might head along to this event:
    Public Talk and launch of pamphlet on the significence of the 1913 Alternative Covenant and the role of progressive Protestantism

    Speakers: Rev. David Frazer and Bill O'Brien.
    When: Wednesday 3rd October, 7pm
    Where: Belvedere Hotel, Denmark Street, Dublin.
    http://www.indymedia.ie/article/102493

    Unionists have written themselves a history and some react with fury when it is challenged, the reaction to the following from some quarters has been quite humorous.
    One of the legends of the Ulster Covenant, which celebrates its 100th anniversary on 28 September 2012, is that Major Frederick H Crawford signed it in his own blood.

    Many sources quote this as an unchallenged fact, but a scientific test carried out on the signature by Dr Alastair Ruffell, of Queen's University Belfast, has found no evidence to support the claim.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-norther...itics-19747495

    I particularly like Rev. JB Armour's description at the time; ‘Protestant fool’s day’ indeed... a rather apt label for today also.

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    Never knew about the alternative covenant. Fascinating. Thank you SGD.

    How correct were the people attending that meeting!

    Various contributions from the floor expressed anger at the thought of the division of Ulster and the exclusion of three of her nine counties. It was argued that if they accepted Home Rule, Irish Protestants would have at least one quarter of the membership of any Dublin parliament to protect them and to look after their interests. Partition, however, would bring about two sectarian states, where the major denomination in each would have too much power and would dominate religious minorities. Religious division rather than cooperation would become the order of the day
    A time between ashes and roses is coming
    When everything shall be extinguished
    When everything shall begin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    This has largely been written out of Unionist history, the fact that so many protestants, thousands and thousands, at a time when relations between the two communities were at their most polarized and the orange men at their most reactionary, signed such an alternative covenant does not sit well with their mythology.

    Might head along to this event:

    http://www.indymedia.ie/article/102493

    Unionists have written themselves a history and some react with fury when it is challenged, the reaction to the following from some quarters has been quite humorous.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-norther...itics-19747495

    I particularly like Rev. JB Armour's description at the time; ‘Protestant fool’s day’ indeed... a rather apt label for today also.
    For a town much maligned these days as the heart of both Paisley's Bible-belt and Jim Allister's TUVF, Ballymoney is also the home of Dr. John Robb of the New Ireland group, a movement which has remained small but always managed to present imaginative and well thought out strategies which concentrated on the Irish aspect of everyone on the island. In some ways, the major aspect which prevents Unionism from moving forward.

    Robb himself, was steeped in the Carsonite tradition. Thread about him here;

    http://www.politicalworld.org/showth...highlight=robb

    A look around the Republican plot in Milltown Cemetery will show that that all the early names commemorated are Presbyterians from in and around Ballymoney.
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    Fascinating stuff on the Alternative Covenant guys.

    The deputation emphasised to Asquith that those who were organising the Ulster Volunteer Force, an illegal militia established to resist Home Rule by force, were for the most part landlords, their tenants and their dependants.
    Landlords using transparently manipulative divide-and-rule tactics to keep the plebs at one another's throats - and their trough well-filled? In Ireland? Shurely shome mishtake.

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    Interesting post Five, particularly the bit about your wife's relations in Inishowen and Fanad who had signed often as small children! I wonder how many people across Ulster were signed up without their knowledge, including Catholics/Nationalists. I am now wondering if those who 'signed' numbered relatives of mine in Derry and Donegal too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    Interesting post Five, particularly the bit about your wife's relations in Inishowen and Fanad who had signed often as small children! I wonder how many people across Ulster were signed up without their knowledge, including Catholics/Nationalists. I am now wondering if those who 'signed' numbered relatives of mine in Derry and Donegal too!
    Don't know about that as according to Eamon Phoenix, not even the north's most prominent Catholic Unionists, most of whom occupied posts in the judiciary, felt able to sign because of the overtly Protestant tone and content of the Covenant. I'd imagine if any Catholics, even falsely, had signed, we'd be hearing about it and being convinced that it was the majority.
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    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...324587418.html

    There you have it. 1916 proclamation no different than this banner for hatred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apjp View Post
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...324587418.html

    There you have it. 1916 proclamation no different than this banner for hatred.
    Shocking drivel from O'Toole - hard to believe he believes it. Anyone could have written it for him, based on the pre-ordained state and IT approved line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Shocking drivel from O'Toole - hard to believe he believes it. Anyone could have written it for him, based on the pre-ordained state and IT approved line.
    This so called new republican is exposed by this piece. The whole ideal of unionism is based on bigotry, fear, and paranoia. All we have to do is to look at its proponents. Ian Paisley probably had as much a cause in the troubles as anyone by helping to bring down a Northern Govt. led by a relatively friendly Terence O' Neill who promoted good relations with the South. It's a wonder we ever wrestled back the 26 counties. As a republican, you believe in core inclusive values such as equality for all, not just for some. As a unionist your beliefs are based on an incredibly bigoted view of 'romanists', the label with which many leading unionist politicians have constantly tarred anyone with opposing beliefs. There is a clear distinction between desiring an inclusive United Ireland based on republican values and seeking to keep Ireland in the 17th century.

    I am reminded of Brendan Behan's viewing of an Orangeman stating there was a romanist conspiracy at work between the Pope and the Soviet Union around the time he painted lifehouses up in Antrim on behalf of the All Ireland lIghthouse authority. Another thing auld Brendan took it upon himself to do was to fret out a local woman who seemed supiscious of the Dublin painters by putting up a sign saying 'anyone who wishes to view this lighthouse must first gain permission from Mr De Valera, Leinster House, Dublin' and he promptly took it down again before she ran off to tell the local populace the tale. Unionism is a divisive ideal, designed to keep Ireland split in two.
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    [QUOTE=Apjp;280112 It's a wonder we ever wrestled back the 26 counties.[/QUOTE]

    When was this?
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    Public Talk and launch of pamphlet on the significence of the 1913 Alternative Covenant and the role of progressive Protestantism

    Speakers: Rev. David Frazer and Bill O'Brien.
    When: Wednesday 3rd October, 7pm
    Where: Belvedere Hotel, Denmark Street, Dublin
    Went to this, an excellent discussion, Rev. David Frazer was excellent, seems to be a very interesting man.

    The pamphlet itself is interesting, wish there was a list of sources/references though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    Went to this, an excellent discussion, Rev. David Frazer was excellent, seems to be a very interesting man.

    The pamphlet itself is interesting, wish there was a list of sources/references though.
    Is it available online ? Would it be too long to scan and put up here, with the Reverend's permission?

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