Health Minister Reilly's "Stroke Politics"

[disability student]

i ran reilly's 'explanation' through my bullshit detector:

lolol

[The Moth]

Originally Posted by DCon
"I think the real issue may be this:
The 2007 report identified Swords and Balbriggan as candidates. Property speculators acquired sites with this in mind.
The new list and the new new list removed them as candidates, threatening the property speculators.
I do not know who the property speculators are or were but I have no doubt that they were more important than bringing bacon home in this decision."

That is the real issue . It is all about the property. It is very hard to get the facts. The HSE are covering for the Minister because they will look bad if the details of the deals come out. Supposing someone paid a high price for a site because they had the nod/wink that the primary care centre would locate there. They would buy knowing that they would have a guaranteed income stream from the HSE on a long lease. A Minister/T.D might even get paid to deliver such a deal. Not that I am suggesting that any Minister/T.D would do such an underhand thing. Have a look at the Ballina white elephant. Wonder what the deal was there. It is basically just a G.P. practice.
http://youtu.be/eqXRRm3Apak

And here is another lovely HSE deal-
http://www.corkman.ie/news/9m-bill-f...e-3175992.html

And of course Dr. Reillys own deal came a cropper -
http://www.saveroscommonhospital.com/?p=12821

[DCon]

Originally Posted by DCon
"I think the real issue may be this:
The 2007 report identified Swords and Balbriggan as candidates. Property speculators acquired sites with this in mind.
The new list and the new new list removed them as candidates, threatening the property speculators.
I do not know who the property speculators are or were but I have no doubt that they were more important than bringing bacon home in this decision."

That is the real issue . It is all about the property. It is very hard to get the facts. The HSE are covering for the Minister because they will look bad if the details of the deals come out. Supposing someone paid a high price for a site because they had the nod/wink that the primary care centre would locate there. They would buy knowing that they would have a guaranteed income stream from the HSE on a long lease. A Minister/T.D might even get paid to deliver such a deal. Not that I am suggesting that any Minister/T.D would do such an underhand thing. Have a look at the Ballina white elephant. Wonder what the deal was there. It is basically just a G.P. practice.
http://youtu.be/eqXRRm3Apak

And here is another lovely HSE deal-
http://www.corkman.ie/news/9m-bill-f...e-3175992.html

And of course Dr. Reillys own deal came a cropper -
http://www.saveroscommonhospital.com/?p=12821

The good doctor does not have much interest in medical provision

A source close to the project said GPs lined up for the primary centre pulled out when the recession hit and because the rates Dr Reilly and his partners were charging were too high.

A source said: “Suites alone were being offered for €900,000 and that would not have entitled GPs to any ownership or profits the building would have generated.

“They thought it a poor deal. The ethos was presented to them as ‘doctors for doctors’ but it felt no more a deal than if they had been approached by a builder to develop.”

http://www.saveroscommonhospital.com/?p=12821

[DCon]

Dr Jim has not escaped the hot seat yet

Frank Fitzgibbon ‏@FrankSunTimes

Preview of Sunday papers shortly. Even from this distance I can detect the smell of blood. Reilly controversy far from over...

Frank Fitzgibbon ‏@FrankSunTimes

SunTimes has best Reilly splash. Our revelation.courtesy of former HSE exec, may require Reilly to revisit his Dail explanation of last week

Frank Fitzgibbon ‏@FrankSunTimes

Sindo leads with Roisin's RTE interview on Saturday morning and SBP has Lucinda saying Reilly needs to provide fuller explanation of actions

[C. Flower]

Originally Posted by DCon
"I think the real issue may be this:
The 2007 report identified Swords and Balbriggan as candidates. Property speculators acquired sites with this in mind.
The new list and the new new list removed them as candidates, threatening the property speculators.
I do not know who the property speculators are or were but I have no doubt that they were more important than bringing bacon home in this decision."

That is the real issue . It is all about the property. It is very hard to get the facts. The HSE are covering for the Minister because they will look bad if the details of the deals come out. Supposing someone paid a high price for a site because they had the nod/wink that the primary care centre would locate there. They would buy knowing that they would have a guaranteed income stream from the HSE on a long lease. A Minister/T.D might even get paid to deliver such a deal. Not that I am suggesting that any Minister/T.D would do such an underhand thing. Have a look at the Ballina white elephant. Wonder what the deal was there. It is basically just a G.P. practice.
http://youtu.be/eqXRRm3Apak

And here is another lovely HSE deal-
http://www.corkman.ie/news/9m-bill-f...e-3175992.html

And of course Dr. Reillys own deal came a cropper -
http://www.saveroscommonhospital.com/?p=12821

For Reilly these things are an occasion to turn a profit.

The formulation is incredible - "imaginative" is not a term I associate with transparent and accountable financial arrangements.

In the context of the multi-annual capital planning framework as part of the transformation process the HSE will explore imaginative ways of providing Primary Care Infrastructure in a timely and cost effective manner including private provision and having regard to the fact that Services are delivered through a mix of contracted providers (such as GP’s, Dentists, Pharmacists, Opticians etc) and HSE Employees (Public Health Nurses (PHN’s), Allied Health Professionals, etc).

http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/Publi...velopments.pdf

Shorthall said this morning that one of her sticking points with Reilly is that the HSE was ready to employ 360 people to provide primary care services, and were told at the last minute they could not and that privatised services should be provided.

[Baron von Biffo]

Shorthall said this morning that one of her sticking points with Reilly is that the HSE was ready to employ 360 people to provide primary care services, and were told at the last minute they could not and that privatised services should be provided.

She made the same claim on Finucane's show yesterday. There's a little niggle in it though. She said that this happened in July yet she was still able to vote confidence in Reilly last week.

Looks like she's frantically searching for anything that might put a gloss of principle on her resignation.

[musashi]

Alex White, shortall's replacement talking about stroke politics, claims he's on "the outside looking in".
He sounds like a nice safe pair of hands.
"There's no point in me trying to unpick decisions" as he's "not even a minister yet".

[Dr. FIVE]

Indo - Reilly donar owns site at centre of HSE controversy story

[DCon]

Indo - Reilly donar owns site at centre of HSE controversy story from

you could knock me over with a feather

[Jolly Green Giant]

Indo - Reilly donar owns site at centre of HSE controversy story

Which site? Seems that donating to FG pays.

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...r-3240498.html

[Dr. FIVE]

Indeed

If the papers this last week are to be believed. A Reilly donor owns the site and a Creighton donor is the developer.

Just noticed the developer was actually in the Oireachtas today, doing the pre-budget submission for the Small Firms Association

[DCon]

a book for Dr J

[Baron von Biffo]

a book for Dr J

Go back to VB quick! Lydia is on.

[Jolly Green Giant]

Indeed

If the papers this last week are to be believed. A Reilly donor owns the site and a Creighton donor is the developer.

Just noticed the developer was actually in the Oireachtas today, doing the pre-budget submission for the Small Firms Association

I had a quick glance at SIPO site. How vigorous is SIPO in verifying that donation declarations are correct? Some TDS seem to have declared everything while others have nothing to declare which is hard to believe. The more I read Dail paperwork concerning expenses and declarations it seems more a paper ticking exercise than what's actually declared on the paperwork.

[DCon]

How long are Enda and Eamo hiding in Brussels for?