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    Abercrombie and Fitch (A & F) the huge American retail outlet is to open its first Irish branch soon in Dublin on the old Bank of Ireland building in Dublin's College Green. Already there is a huge bill board with a model standing out and a lot of people are eager to get their hands on their gear which is proving very popular amongst Dublin's haute coutour aware youth eager for the latest hoodie and top. Over the years though, A & F have been embroiled in a number of storms from being hauled through the courts for accusations it hid back room staff whom were non white to the treatment of staff in the sweat shops ithat manufacture their goods n the Phillipenes. The Irish Times published an article recently which highlighted the issues surrounding employment. It goes on..

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...320029446.html

    This notion that only good-looking people need apply has done the company no favours in recent years, and its employment policies have led to a number of court cases. In 2009 a former employee of a London store took it to an employment tribunal claiming she had been forced to work in the stockroom because she didn’t match the company’s strict “look policy”, a guide to the appearance of its shop-floor staff. She was born with the lower part of her arm missing. She won the case, and A&F had to pay her £8,000.

    A much more damaging action was taken against the company in the US in 2003. Several Hispanic, black and Asian employees and applicants sued the company saying they had been put into less visible backroom jobs. The company disputed the claims but settled in 2005. As part of the deal it agreed to pay more than €30 million to black and Hispanic groups across the US while admitting no wrongdoing.
    A&F hired a diversity officer to increase its share of the workforce from 10% being minorities in 2004 to now having approx 50% of its workforce being from minorities. The issues above are not confined however to people whom may work in its branches, there has been accusations that the company's suppliers have ill treated staff that manufacture goods for A & F

    Labour Rights.org carried the news that the Alta Mode factory, where A & F clothing is made, has done its best to stifle the rights of workers whom sought to form a Union. The workers at the factory were looking for better rights but Alta Mode thought differently and suspended the workers and even had the audacity to bring a case against them in what was a flagrant breach of the workers rights to form a union without being subject to harassement for such actions.

    http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&...3tEwPoQNCI502Q

    However all may not be lost for such a big brand as they recently bowed to pressure to stop using cotton from Afghanistan thanks to the a petition by the International Labour Rights Forum. A petition calling on A & F proved successful to the point that they bowed to pressure and stopped using cotton from child labourers in Uzbekistan (http://action.laborrights.org/p/dia/...action_KEY=799). They may have been a bit behind though with the times and only caught up as other companies had signed up and installed policies to deal with such issues.

    While over 65 of the world’s largest apparel brands and retailers have developed policies related to Uzbek cotton, two companies have remained silent.

    One of these the site alleges was A & F until they signed up.

    Next time someone goes shopping for Abercrombie and Fitch in Dublin, think of the rights that people have and where your clothing was made. Was it made ethically? Would you like to work in a company with such policies?

    Ponder for a minute, would you work somewhere where the staff recruited seem to be just models?

    http://jezebel.com/5479980/american-...ring-practices

    Read the following report from an ex employee from jezebel.com

    There is a "style guide" that hiring managers get to see. It contains almost no text - just a few dozen pages, each with a full-sized color photograph of different ethnicities - a male and a female for each. They are supposed to serve as examples of the kind of people you should hire. Presumably so the managers will know what good-looking minorities look like. They're amongst the confidential files that are never meant to leave the office, but I'm surprised none have ever surfaced
    In 2009 the Guardian reported on the flagship store in Saville Row in London where is seemed so out of place with all of the other shops. Benoit Denizet-Lewis who does article for the NYT magazine tells the Guradian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/fashion/20...tch-savile-row) that Mike Jeffries (CEO of A & F) came out with the following line when he interviewed him:

    "We go after the attractive, all-American kid with a great attitude and a lot of friends. A lot of people don't belong [in our clothes], and they can't belong."

    Wonder what would happen if this 23st lump of lard walked brazenly in and demanded a job. I could include on the application "I have the body of a God"...just neglect to tell them its a body like this...

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    I don't mind getting served by fat ugly people as long as I get my right change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    I don't mind getting served by fat ugly people as long as I get my right change.
    http://news.stylecaster.com/body-sla...fitch-trouble/

    Yer unlikely to see any of us portly lads working there...
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    Close some......open some. They flirted with bankruptcy a while back..
    On February 15, 2012, A&F announced plans to close 180 MORE underperforming U.S. stores by 2015 while continuing to expand in Europe and Asia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    Close some......open some. They flirted with bankruptcy a while back..
    The mind boggles...

    Some whinges meanwhile about Abercrombies and Fitches ad campaigns..more here

    http://beaut.ie/blog/2012/shades-of-...sing-backlash/
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    I never heard of Abercrombies and Fitche until a few months ago when it was announce that they were opening a store in Dublin. The Mrs. told me what type of fashion they sell and said it wouldn't be my style.

    Maybe i'm getting old but the clothes don't sound that appealing, no matter how good looking the staff are :P

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    It is nothing more than yet another intensely ugly American corporation attempting to bring their odious employment practices with them wherever they go.

    As for the clothes, I refuse to wear anything which uses me as advertising space for the manufacturer.

    I look forward to seeing this place close. (And dont come back with "What about the jobs?" Frankly, this is the sort of job creation we could do without)
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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffybiscuits View Post
    http://news.stylecaster.com/body-sla...fitch-trouble/

    Yer unlikely to see any of us portly lads working there...



    Happen to know that in London they look for staff in the various dance schools, all part-time and excellent odds on getting good bodies and looks + gay talkative lads.

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    Typical Abercrombie & Fitch staff who bend over backwards to please the customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DUB View Post
    I never heard of Abercrombies and Fitche until a few months ago when it was announce that they were opening a store in Dublin. The Mrs. told me what type of fashion they sell and said it wouldn't be my style.

    Maybe i'm getting old but the clothes don't sound that appealing, no matter how good looking the staff are :P
    I tried raisng the issue today and some peopel were more excited at the thoughts of looking like a billboard !

    Quote Originally Posted by Slim Buddha View Post
    It is nothing more than yet another intensely ugly American corporation attempting to bring their odious employment practices with them wherever they go.

    As for the clothes, I refuse to wear anything which uses me as advertising space for the manufacturer.

    I look forward to seeing this place close. (And dont come back with "What about the jobs?" Frankly, this is the sort of job creation we could do without)
    +1

    Im half tempted to ask their HR for an interview when they open just to see what they say. Its corporatisation on a grand scale. i dont know why the corpo could not have opened up a few small shops with independent retailers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley 2 View Post
    Happen to know that in London they look for staff in the various dance schools, all part-time and excellent odds on getting good bodies and looks + gay talkative lads.
    I know a few who would love a job in it, labour rights does not come on the radar for some people....
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