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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaadi View Post
    There's a very reactionary authoritarian streak in FG, it's the primary reason they've never been trusted with an overall majority, you just know they'll be chomping at the bit to set the riot cops on protesters if the opportunity arises.

    Shatter seemed like a man who could shake up the justice system, now he seems like an authoritarian with an agenda. His attacks on Irish neutrality during the emergency are a blatantly transparent attempt to push his pro-Israel agenda.
    I would be in favour of a thread that debates what life could look like if Ireland left the EU. In terms of free press, economic and civil liberties, sovereignty and neutrality, the EU has taken everything we have. There are a lot of posters on here with good ideas and I think a good discussion might get a few ideas flowing amongst our many reputable emigres on here.

    The only way to reclaim our sovereignty and neutrality is to leave the EU. I would like to talk about that. It should be a plan that a few of us have an eye on anyways given where we'll likely be in 5 years time economically and politically.

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    Hi CF

    Some news-

    1. The current American visa head in Dublin was brought in to do accounts. suddenly he became visa chief

    2. On Aug 28 2012 Helen Fitzgerald of foreign affairs appealed for return of an Irish citizen's passport from the embassy after hearing it was to be held for several weeks for no reason- he has had a total of 10 visas form the USA, no criminal record of any sort

    3. The passport was returned next day with the stipulation that the process was to reboot......

    4. US immigration has admonished the current American visa head for holding on to passports too long. this is an unauthorized operation and is almost certainly CIA

    Oh, and I'm sticking to my guns about putting a Zionist in after we had to expel an Israeli diplomat a year before;

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...y-quit-embassy

    finally, if the media in Ireland were worth a damn, we would not be here on pw
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    [quote=C. Flower;276196]

    He is a Fine Gael Minister - his policies and approach are consistent with the policies of this Coalition. For example, he and Gilmore both spread disinformation about Ahmadinejad and Iran, that even the US would not stand over. His policies don't differ from others in the Government, and Jewishness is not a political position. He is pro-Zionist, but so are plenty of people who aren't Jews.

    Really? Has this been reported in the Press ?

    Is this not why he is a Minister in a Government which, sadly, won a democratic election ? As to money, Kenny wrong-footed the very clumsy move by Bruton in the space of a couple of days. Are you suggesting that Kenny bought his support ?
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    It seems as if the media are heeding Shatter. No mention of this whatsoever in the media (at least I haven't noticed any coverage) despite hundreds of people marching, including elected reps and a large Garda presence.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM8jW71esyk"]Free Marian Price, Dublin 15th September 2012 - YouTube[/ame]
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    How do I embed youtube videos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    How do I embed youtube videos?
    Usually copy and paste http of video to post but I've tried to edit your's and it's still not coming up. Will look again.

    The good doctor five sorted Saoirse by clipping its tail.
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    Censorship in Ireland ? Couldn't happen. Never happened. Did I mention that Shatter is a Jew ? And not just any old Jew either...he's a Reformed Jew. That makes him a Protestant Jew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lapsedmethodist View Post
    Censorship in Ireland ? Couldn't happen. Never happened. Did I mention that Shatter is a Jew ? And not just any old Jew either...he's a Reformed Jew. That makes him a Protestant Jew.
    Just about the 30th anniversary of sabra and chatila.......

    As a Zionist, Shatter has no moral right to criticize, let alone proscribe the RIRA. More enlightened Jews like Freud argued that the Jews were in Israel for a millennium max; we Irish have been on this island for 10 millennia. Zionism has turned into a movement with the slimmest historical justification that dispossesses Arabs of their ancestral lands by force; the RIRA claims charter from the historical events of 1916 – 1921 to repossess what is definitely our ancestral land, if necessary by force.

    Of course, Zionism is all the rage in the USA, perhaps explaining the peculiar behavior at their Dublin embassy. I am not suggesting new pogroms, but shatter is not an appropriate person for his office and should step down as otherwise we can expect more Donaghmede incidents. There is no doubt that colin duffy et al know all the above.

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    Should have mentioned the Zionists killed more at sabra and chatila than the Provos did in 30 years

    Moreover, none were PLO as they had left

    Quote Originally Posted by erigena View Post
    Just about the 30th anniversary of sabra and chatila.......

    As a Zionist, Shatter has no moral right to criticize, let alone proscribe the RIRA. More enlightened Jews like Freud argued that the Jews were in Israel for a millennium max; we Irish have been on this island for 10 millennia. Zionism has turned into a movement with the slimmest historical justification that dispossesses Arabs of their ancestral lands by force; the RIRA claims charter from the historical events of 1916 – 1921 to repossess what is definitely our ancestral land, if necessary by force.

    Of course, Zionism is all the rage in the USA, perhaps explaining the peculiar behavior at their Dublin embassy. I am not suggesting new pogroms, but shatter is not an appropriate person for his office and should step down as otherwise we can expect more Donaghmede incidents. There is no doubt that colin duffy et al know all the above.

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