Taxing the Rich

[C. Flower]

That makes Belgium the country of choice for tax exiles as well as peedos. They will be great company for each other.

As far as I know, we have also brought in a law for people called "special assignees", high-income people who will get numerous tax breaks.

Yes. If you earn more than €75,000 a year, and pop back in to Ireland.

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&...hnDFtTJLd_Yb9g

[Jolly Red Giant]

In Ireland, Tasc, the Socialist Party, the SWP and others on the left suggest that raising taxes can solve Ireland's problems -

Wow - hold the horses CF - the Socialist Party has never, ever, suggested that 'raising taxes can solve Ireland's problems'.

The global economic crisis and the crisis in ireland is a crisis of the capitalist economic system. There is no solution to the boom /slump cycle of capitalism except through the establishment of a democratically planned socialised economy. This has been the position of the Socialist Party, is the position of the Socialist Party and will continue to tbe the position of the Socialist Party.

A wealth tax is a mechanism to create a supply of finance to fund a programme of economic development - nothing more and nothing less. Without a fundemental change in the economic system a wealth tax will change nothing - except provide a short term boost to a crisis economy.

[Baron von Biffo]

Hang on. I am to lose my passport because some of the scumbags who crashed the economy in the banking, political and property sectors have fled the country???

Or some bullyboy businessmen choose to live away from Ireland yet retain significant business interests in it???

Do I get a say in this??

Are you telling us you want a say but you don't want to pay?

[Baron von Biffo]

As far as I know, we have also brought in a law for people called "special assignees", high-income people who will get numerous tax breaks.

Yes, your party did indeed do that.

[Slim Buddha]

Are you telling us you want a say but you don't want to pay?

No.

I want my passport. I do not want the right to vote in Irish elections when I do not live there. I pay taxes elsewhere and am happy to do so.

So No, I do not want a say, mainly because there is nothing in Ireland worth voting for in any case.

[Baron von Biffo]

No.

I want my passport. I do not want the right to vote in Irish elections when I do not live there. I pay taxes elsewhere and am happy to do so.

So No, I do not want a say, mainly because there is nothing in Ireland worth voting for in any case.

Not even the passport?

[Slim Buddha]

Not even the passport?

I meant political parties, all of whom are visionless and mired in mediocrity and innate grubby conservatism.

[Dr. FIVE]

from Michael Taft

Lowest 10% income group pays 17% of income on VAT; for top 10% the figure is less than 7%. That's even with 0-rated food

[fluffybiscuits]

Wow - hold the horses CF - the Socialist Party has never, ever, suggested that 'raising taxes can solve Ireland's problems'.

The global economic crisis and the crisis in ireland is a crisis of the capitalist economic system. There is no solution to the boom /slump cycle of capitalism except through the establishment of a democratically planned socialised economy. This has been the position of the Socialist Party, is the position of the Socialist Party and will continue to tbe the position of the Socialist Party.

A wealth tax is a mechanism to create a supply of finance to fund a programme of economic development - nothing more and nothing less. Without a fundemental change in the economic system a wealth tax will change nothing - except provide a short term boost to a crisis economy.

http://richardboydbarrett.ie/policies/

RBB has advocated taxing the 37k people who earn in excess of 300k a year which frankly you cant blame him. How much would that raise? A few billion no doubt could keep the health system running for a while

[Dr. FIVE]

Opposition to a wealth tax is not to the yield but to what it would reveal

- Michael D, Budget 2009

Very good point imo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=jUAQaJ_dizw

[Dr. FIVE]

Liking his response to TINA too.

TARA - There are radical alternatives

[C. Flower]

Brian Hayes TD has gone out of his way to say that nobody should be taxed anymore, not one cent. It should be cuts only from now on.

Link

http://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/2536...apEsBQ.twitter

[fluffybiscuits]

Brian Hayes TD has gone out of his way to say that nobody should be taxed anymore, not one cent. It should be cuts only from now on.

Link

http://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/2536...apEsBQ.twitter

No realisation what so ever that we are at the limit of our cuts and have taken all that we can in terms of taxes. The biggest expenditure for the govt is public sector which means the likes of me in the firing line, that is what they are going to do next. Ignore the fat cats and the massive tax loopholes and go after the lower echelons of the public sector....

[Richardbouvet]

If public sector pay is targeted, then the only rational response is industrial action.
Surely more people besides us must be exasperated by the supine attitude of the PS unions at this stage?

Its time for PS union leaders to lay down a marker : any further talk of pay cuts in the PS will trigger a ballot for industrial action. Why the hell isn't this happening?

[Shaadi]

If public sector pay is targeted, then the only rational response is industrial action.
Surely more people besides us must be exasperated by the supine attitude of the PS unions at this stage?

Its time for PS union leaders to lay down a marker : any further talk of pay cuts in the PS will trigger a ballot for industrial action. Why the hell isn't this happening?

Because the Union leadership are in bed with the top PS workers. They know that there's a €14bn + deficit and that cuts are inevitable. They're just determined that those PS cuts will have as little effect on the top layers as possible. So they're gonna play the all for one and one for all card of pretending all you guys are in it together. Those at the top who can afford massive cuts are going to experience the same percentage cuts as those at the bottom of the PS food chain and FG will hold down their taxes. Sweet deal.