Volley Fired for Alan Ryan's Funeral

[C. Flower]

Serious allegations about what amounts to Gardai collusion in the killing of Alan Ryan on the Joe Duffy Show that's up on the RTE website. I wonder will there be repercussions about the broadcasting of those allegations?

I've heard in the last two days, on RTE, allegations that the Gardai failed to act promptly to Ryan's murder and also that they encouraged RIRA members to go after drug dealers.

[Saoirse go Deo]

If he was under constant surveillance, which one would assume he was (and if not, why not if he was such a senior figure as alleged?) the Garda have big questions to answer.

[BARNEYKX]

I have to say I am constantly shocked by the way violence against women is treated as a trivial manner by Irish courts. It is an absolute disgrace. Women in Ireland should really rise up against this.

he should have got 6 months at least

[BARNEYKX]

Would love to know how many anti drugs 'activists' are anti drugs

now yer talkin

[riposte]

If he was under constant surveillance, which one would assume he was (and if not, why not if he was such a senior figure as alleged?) the Garda have big questions to answer.

From what I remember ... the Gardai ask the questions.

[Mick Tully]

If he was under constant surveillance, which one would assume he was (and if not, why not if he was such a senior figure as alleged?) the Garda have big questions to answer.

Tom Nevin of Jack Whites was said to be under surveillance, at the time of his murder, during the trial of his wife.

[C. Flower]

Tom Nevin of Jack Whites was said to be under surveillance, at the time of his murder, during the trial of his wife.

Really? I think I remember that the pub was watched. You would have expected it to be. But 24/7 ?

[Apjp]

Minister Alan Shatter is on Pat Kenny's show at the moment, saying that the Gardai chose not to take action at the funeral but "will do what was appropriate" in relation to the "paramilitary display."

Does this mean that anyone there who wore black trousers will be subject to our "no jury" jailing ?

What leaves the situation open to support for people like Ryan is the failure of the Gardai and society generally to protect communities from drugs and drug-related crime.

Shatter said that "these groupings are engaged with substantial criminality"
- doesn't want to prejudice future trials.

No mistake - just as after the O'Connell Street riot people were pursued later and jailed for years - the Minister will not let this drop.

I would have rioted on O connell street too if I was a relative of the 30 or 40 people killed in Monaghan and Dublin by UVF planted bombs in the 70s. Sure the group behind it practically celebrated those deaths and wanted a big parade to do so.

[C. Flower]

I would have rioted on O connell street too if I was a relative of the 30 or 40 people killed in Monaghan and Dublin by UVF planted bombs in the 70s. Sure the group behind it practically celebrated those deaths and wanted a big parade to do so.

Hard to know whether permitting that parade was naive, or provocative.

[Kev Bar]

I would have rioted on O connell street too if I was a relative of the 30 or 40 people killed in Monaghan and Dublin by UVF planted bombs in the 70s. Sure the group behind it practically celebrated those deaths and wanted a big parade to do so.

I wonder if the Eastern Europeans busted liberating sportswear shared your outrage.

I also wonder if demanding "protection" money from drug dealers falls under the aegis of "anti drugs activism."

I suspect, however, that the logic here is as mind altering as any of the disputed substances.

Outside of cartoon anti-monarchial posturing, it also looks like that which precedes 'publican' is totally neglected.

All attention being on the grubby proceeds.

A characteristic shared by the more mainstream 'politicals.'

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...r-2872553.html

[Griska]

The police said that it is not their job to stop reporters taking photos of victim's bodies.
I suspect if there was a dead cop on the ground they'd have had no problem operating outside their remit.
My brother went to the funeral and was at the cemetery before the funeral party arrived.
He's studying journalism and wanted to...well actually, I don't know what he wanted to do.
Anyway, the cops looked through his phone and were curious as to why he had a book on Saudi Arabia in his bag.
He's young and didn't kick up a fuss.

[Saoirse go Deo]

The police said that it is not their job to stop reporters taking photos of victim's bodies.
I suspect if there was a dead cop on the ground they'd have had no problem operating outside their remit.
My brother went to the funeral and was at the cemetery before the funeral party arrived.
He's studying journalism and wanted to...well actually, I don't know what he wanted to do.
Anyway, the cops looked through his phone and were curious as to why he had a book on Saudi Arabia in his bag.
He's young and didn't kick up a fuss.

What could they have done if he refused to show them his phone? (**** all I presume)

[Griska]

What could they have done if he refused to show them his phone? (**** all I presume)

I told him I think they need a warrant to look through somebody's phone.
But as I said, he's young.

[Trow]

Dirty Old Town.

[Mick Tully]

I told him I think they need a warrant to look through somebody's phone.
But as I said, he's young.

You should brush up on the powers of the Gardai, before you try and give advice to your kid brother. They have changed in the last few years.