Volley Fired for Alan Ryan's Funeral

[C. Flower]

Hundreds of friends, family and supporters attended Alan Ryan's funeral today in Balgriffin cementary today.

http://www.herald.ie/breaking-news/n...r-3223541.html

More than 200 supporters accompanies the coffin in "uniform" of white shirt and black trousers.

Colin Duffy spoke at the graveside.

The Media have portrayed Ryan, and the RIRA as having become "ordinary criminals" mainly through innuendo. The RIRA have claimed to have killed drug dealers.

There is a contradiction between press reports that claim the RIRA raises money from drug dealers and the 32CSG, who say that the group is against all drug dealing.

Reports appear to agree that Ryan was killed by criminals / a criminal who had come under attack from the RIRA, who appear to be carrying out an extreme form of armed vigilanteism, acting as judge, jury and executioner.

I don't understand how anyone could think these activities would bring a united Ireland any closer.

The 32 County Sovereignty Movement (CSM), which is seen as the political wing of the RIRA, had condemned the "cowardly murder" of their friend, comrade and activist. Outside the church, the men in military gear changed in to the 'uniform' in a white van and were shield by associates to avoid arrest. They changed again for the burial, where the graveside oration was given by well-known republican Colin Duffy.

Ryan was due to go on trial for an alleged extortion racket and threatening a city-centre publican and making him cease trading within 24 hours. He was previously jailed for taking part in a RIRA weapons training camp in Meath in 2001 and served time for possession of a firearm in a separate incident.

He was one of the leaders of the RIRA in Dublin where, with other members, he had been trying to extort money from drugs gangs, as well as legitimate businesses across the capital. The 32 CSM had claimed that Ryan had worked tirelessly to tackle the scourge of drugs.

[Saoirse go Deo]

The blog you link to offers little but wild speculation and is hardly a reliable resource for anything.

The 32CSM and the RIRA have taken steps against drug dealers in recent times, I touched on that in the thread I started about their new years statement in this forum.

As for Alan Ryan and his funeral, I heard the turnout was well over a thousand, near two, from people who attended. As for a volley of shots I see no problem with that, people should be able to mourn their dead how they see fit.

I would have went to the funeral myself but I'm currently ill. (mainly out of curiosity but I do have a degree of respect for anyone who faces down drug dealers even if their politics are at odds with my own) I believe little of what has been written about the man in the media, if he was really like that he must have hidden it fantastically well from the people who have vouched for him, respectable, principled republicans who would have no time for criminality.

Consensus seems to be that there is criminality within that movement but that Alan Ryan was a decent head.

As for bringing us closer to a United Ireland, I don't see how it is either, or how the armed movement is contributing at all towards that goal.

[Kev Bar]

I'm curious as to what constitutes a "cowardly" murder as opposed to presumably a "valiant" one.

[C. Flower]

The blog you link to offers little but wild speculation and is hardly a reliable resource for anything.

The 32CSM and the RIRA have taken steps against drug dealers in recent times, I touched on that in the thread I started about their new years statement in this forum.

As for Alan Ryan and his funeral, I heard the turnout was well over a thousand, near two, from people who attended. As for a volley of shots I see no problem with that, people should be able to mourn their dead how they see fit.

I would have went to the funeral myself but I'm currently ill. (mainly out of curiosity but I do have a degree of respect for anyone who faces down drug dealers even if their politics are at odds with my own) I believe little of what has been written about the man in the media, if he was really like that he must have hidden it fantastically well from the people who have vouched for him, respectable, principled republicans who would have no time for criminality.

Consensus seems to be that there is criminality within that movement but that Alan Ryan was a decent head.

As for bringing us closer to a United Ireland, I don't see how it is either, or how the armed movement is contributing at all towards that goal.

I've taken that link out, as it is a hodge podge of press cuttings poorly presented. Perhaps something more substantial and accurate can be found.

I have very great respect for people who take on the drug trade, although I think that ending the social deprivation and poverty and inequality on which it thrives - not only in Ireland, but also in producer countries - is the only way it can be brought to an end. At least they put down a marker that people have a right to live in their communities safely, an that communities have a right to protect themselves. I think we agree that murdering people believed to be criminals is not going to do it, and brings further risks to communities.

But I have no idea if Ryan was involved in any such actions, or even if he agreed with them.

[C. Flower]

I'm curious as to what constitutes a "cowardly" murder as opposed to presumably a "valiant" one.

Possibly the fact that (reportedly) he was shot in the back ?

[Trow]

A statement from and and link to the Derry 32csm.....

The 32 County Sovereignty Movement wishes to extend our heartfelt sympathy to the Ryan familly following the cowardly murder of our friend, comrade and activist Alan Ryan. Alan was shot in the back in cold blood on the streets where he grew up, streets where he had worked tirelessly to tackle the scourge of drugs which he had always opposed with every fibre of his being. We cannot express in words the pain now felt by both the movement as a whole and individual activists now that he has been taken from us. Alan's murder does not mean the end of the cause for which he gave his life. Whether it was as an ex Republican prisoner campaigning for his comrades in Maghaberry, or as an anti drugs activist protecting his community Alan set an example which will be followed. http://www.derry32csm.com/

[C. Flower]

A huge amount of speculation has been printed about Ryan and the RIRA in Dublin generally, but there is a lack of evidence or convictions, so far as I can see, so it is hard to know whether or not there is any foundation for the various allegations - mainly related to demanding protection money from pubs.

A massive police raid on an associated pub produced only a few bullets and a packet of cocaine, items that are very readily plantable.

He has certainly been a focus of Garda attention, particularly before and during Queen Elizabeth's visit, against which he protested with other RIRA members. So far as I can see, the offences for which he was convicted were related to possession of weapons.

http://www.sundayworld.com/columnist...x.php?aid=7347

[Sam Lord]

Hard to see a bright side but I'm told that half the serious hoods in Dublin have legged it to foreign shores.

Long may they stay there.

[C. Flower]

Hard to see a bright side but I'm told that half the serious hoods in Dublin have legged it to foreign shores.

Long may they stay there.

The press has been reporting that and seems to revel in the prospect of more tit for tat killings.

[Sam Lord]

The press has been reporting that and seems to revel in the prospect of more tit for tat killings.

Well, the drug dealers have put it up to the 'Ra. Never thought I'd see that day. From the point of view of the republicans there can be no question of backing down I would have thought. They may has well just pack up everything and go home if drug dealers are able to kill them with impunity.

[Dr. FIVE]

Shatter

http://www.thejournal.ie/shatter-sla...urce=shortlink

[Sam Lord]

Shatter

http://www.thejournal.ie/shatter-sla...urce=shortlink

Why doesn't he get something done about the drug dealers in Dublin? No outrage and pointed comments at the cops about that. But a few people in combats have him frothing at the mouth. Sadly predictable.

[DCon]

Why doesn't he get something done about the drug dealers in Dublin? No outrage and pointed comments at the cops about that. But a few people in combats have him frothing at the mouth. Sadly predictable.

why doesn't he do something about the drug supply amd the manner in which some people can act with impunity?

Russell Memery has told officers investigating her death that Ducie asked him 'what was in the cocaine' as Katy lay unconscious and foaming at the mouth in the back of his jeep.
Phone records show how Ducie had called Memery shortly before midnight the previous night, sparking a flurry of calls between the drug dealer, Ducie's then girlfriend Ann Corcoran and the model, as she made her way to his home in Kilmessan.
He claims that Ducie wanted €200 worth of cocaine and that arrangements were then made with Corcoran for the handover of the drugs to Katy at a Service Station in Dunboyne.

http://www.sundayworld.com/columnist...x.php?aid=4265

Kieron Ducie has been convicted of assaulting a heavily pregnant woman and told he must do 240 hours of community service in lieu of a nine-month jail sentence.

http://meathnews.blogspot.com/2012/0...ault-trim.html

[Sam Lord]

Political question. Several different republican military factions (for want of a better word) were supposed to have amalgimated recently into one IRA. The "real IRA" which has always been linked with the 32CSM was reportedly one of these. I was just looking at the Sunday Independent online and Ryan's hearse is adorned by a large wreath from the 32CSM. So am I to take it that the 32 County Sovereignty Movement now represents the political thinking of all the amalgimated groups? Also, there is another large wreath which I presume is from the military grouping but I am unable to make it out as it is partially obscured by a sign in the window of the hearse. Would anyone know what that stands for?

[C. Flower]

Why doesn't he get something done about the drug dealers in Dublin? No outrage and pointed comments at the cops about that. But a few people in combats have him frothing at the mouth. Sadly predictable.

“Paramilitary trappings should not blind people to the fact that what is at issue is criminal terrorism carried on by people who, for their own reasons, want to drag the people of this island back to a dark past.

The man was shot in the back, and there is an ongoing police enquiry. I'm not sure that the Minister for Justice should decide in advance what the issue is.