Clare Daly resigns from the Socialist Party

[Saoirse go Deo]

So, putting it crudely, reckon they're seeing each other?

[Dr. FIVE]

Putting it crudely, I dont think it's anyone's business

[Dr. FIVE]

I understand that Brian Greene, an SP party activist in Dublin North Central has tweeted that he resigned from the SP also - yesterday at 3 pm. My Twitter machine refuses to work (because the Boss dislikes it). Any confirmation?

As of 3pm Friday I am no longer a member of the socialist party. I resigned after 16 years with the party. At CAHWT meeting all afternoon.

also his brother after 21 years.

Not because of Daly he says

[Saoirse go Deo]

Putting it crudely, I dont think it's anyone's business

Perhaps.


I'm sure it'll all come out however, one way or another. She didn't comment on Wallace at all in her statement which is a disappointment.

I don't see any sense in her having a "political connection" with the toxic Wallace. She has damaged her party and campaigns.

[C. Flower]

There have clearly been serious political problems in the Socialist Party for some time.
The Party has relentlessly chanelled all of its resources into a single issue campaign, based on a successful protest campaign carried out many years ago and in completely different political and economic conditions. The Socialist Party, having taken part in the step of intiating the ULA, have
turned away from building it, and the planned ULA Summer School was cancelled recently. A lot of very genuine individuals who joined the ULA from outside of the political parties were being left high and dry. Clare Daly didn't at least in public seem to have any problem with any of this.

Rather than take her difficulties up in the Socialist Party and ULA and debate them there, she has taken what looks like an opportunistic side step to claim to be a ULA (Indendent) TD.

The SP as a whole it seemed to me were tending to work generally uncritically with some members of the Technical Group who have nothing to do with socialism, were relying too much on Parliamentary work and resources, and were putting all their political eggs in the basket of the Household Tax campaign, when the situation demands much broader work organising against cuts, and to put forward an alternative economic platform. I've written about these issues a good number of times over the last year.

A break has come according to the Socialist Party because whereas the Socialist Party as a whole, although slow, had acted to distance itself from Wallace, in the light of his actions with regard to non payment of VAT, Clare Daly has no wish to do so. Clare Daly says that the break has come because she wants to build the ULA. She had every opportunity at the last ULA Conference to make this clear, but didn't give a hint of it. She could have fought it out internally, in the ULA and SP. If she did, perhaps people will come forward and confirm it.

If she is only using the ULA as a political vehicle, because no longer welcome in the SP, then it seems that she not only has damaged the Socialist Party, but now is set to damage the ULA. She appears to have moved to the right. A debacle, and one I am sad about.

A real movement of people power needs to be built to stop the wave of attacks on ordinary working people."

Very true, but after this, I don't see that Clare Daly is going to be someone who will be in the leadership of any such movement.

Serious for the left and for everyone who wants something other than FF/FG Ireland. The Government must be laughing.

[Saoirse go Deo]

I imagine SF must be pleased, people will be turned away from both the SP and the ULA over this, to the welcome left alternative of SF.

ULA etc voters (not die hard members) in my experience tend to be quite sympathetic to SF but voted ULA instead because of lingering niggling at their conscience over the IRA. It won't take much to bring them over.

[5intheface]

Perhaps.


I'm sure it'll all come out however, one way or another. She didn't comment on Wallace at all in her statement which is a disappointment.

I don't see any sense in her having a "political connection" with the toxic Wallace. She has damaged her party and campaigns.

Who knows what the set-up is?

[TotalMayhem]

Not because of Daly he says

Is he dating Mick?

[Kev Bar]

Putting it crudely, I dont think it's anyone's business

Of course it's not anyone's fooking business.

But is it true?

[Kev Bar]

Perhaps.


I'm sure it'll all come out however, one way or another. She didn't comment on Wallace at all in her statement which is a disappointment.

I don't see any sense in her having a "political connection" with the toxic Wallace. She has damaged her party and campaigns.

On the scale you are using I was just wondering that if Wallace is toxic, what do we call our British Republican Priory Hall geezer?

Ignoring the whole morality gig, just want to get the linguistic sus.

[Mick Tully]

It is a good move by her to get away from those backwoods men. The pinkos are in the past.

[Baron von Biffo]

If she is only using the ULA as a political vehicle, because no longer welcome in the SP, then it seems that she not only has damaged the Socialist Party, but now is set to damage the ULA.

Let's be honest here, the ULA is just an armistice between the SP and the SWP/PBPA and that boils down to Higgins and Boyd-Barrett. It's not and will never be allowed to be, a serious political movement.

[Baron von Biffo]

I imagine SF must be pleased, people will be turned away from both the SP and the ULA over this, to the welcome left alternative of SF.

ULA etc voters (not die hard members) in my experience tend to be quite sympathetic to SF but voted ULA instead because of lingering niggling at their conscience over the IRA. It won't take much to bring them over.

The ULA would have picked up a chunk of the ABFF vote like the others. Given that it has nothing to offer but populist posturing it vote probably came from the unthinking end of the electorate - People who may never have voted in the past and may never vote again when Higgins et al didn't sweep away all their problems once they were elected.

There's not likely to be too much for SF, or anyone else, when the dust settles.

[PaddyJoe]

No malice to anyone here but Clare Daly looked happy and confident and well on her last couple of appearances on de telly box recently. There isn't exactly an overflowing well of left people putting together any kind of coherent argument on de TV or wireless these days.
Good luck to her

[Baron von Biffo]

No malice to anyone here but Clare Daly looked happy and confident and well on her last couple of appearances on de telly box recently.

Interesting observation. She was positively bouncy on the news earlier, in contrast to Higgins who couldn't have looked more miserable if he found out his missus had paid the Household Charge.