Clare Daly resigns from the Socialist Party

[Jolly Red Giant]

Does the SP have a majority on it ?

There is nothing distinctive about 2.

1. No - the committee is comprised of delegates from campaigns all over the country. A number of SP members are delegates but the vast majority of delegates are not politically aligned with any group. You should become active in your local campaign - see how a mass campaign of opposition can operate.

2. Why does it have to be distinctive? The campaign was set up to defeat the charge and the SP are working within the campaign to achieve that goal. Are you suggesting it should have an ulterior motive?

[C. Flower]

1. No - the committee is comprised of delegates from campaigns all over the country. A number of SP members are delegates but the vast majority of delegates are not politically aligned with any group. You should become active in your local campaign - see how a mass campaign of opposition can operate.

2. Why does it have to be distinctive? The campaign was set up to defeat the charge and the SP are working within the campaign to achieve that goal. Are you suggesting it should have an ulterior motive?

Sometimes you just crack me up

[C. Flower]

The SWP thinks that Clare Daly should be welcome in the ULA -

http://www.swp.ie/content/what-we-sa...ocialist-party

[Baron von Biffo]

The SWP thinks that Clare Daly should be welcome in the ULA -

http://www.swp.ie/content/what-we-sa...ocialist-party

Death notice of the ULA.

[Griska]

The SWP thinks that Clare Daly should be welcome in the ULA -

http://www.swp.ie/content/what-we-sa...ocialist-party

Surely her resignation from the SP didn't necessarily mean she wasn't still part of the ULA?

[Jolly Red Giant]

Big surprise here

[Sam Lord]

Surely her resignation from the SP didn't necessarily mean she wasn't still part of the ULA?

No, and she has said that she wants to devote her time and energy to the ULA. But the SP think that the ULA needs to take a position on her "political support" for Wallace and seems to believe that she should comply with certain unclear requirements in ths regard if she is to remain in the ULA. How an alliance with no constitution that I know of which outlines requirements for members other than very general ones and no policies other than the few broad brushstrokes outlined for the purposes of the last election is expected to do this is not clear.

The SP pursuing their beef with Daly into the ULA could well prove to be something the alliance in its present format is unable to withstand.

[Baron von Biffo]

The SP pursuing their beef with Daly into the ULA could well prove to be something the alliance in its present format is unable to withstand.

http://www.politicalworld.org/showpo...&postcount=150

[Griska]

No, and she has said that she wants to devote her time and energy to the ULA. But the SP think that the ULA needs to take a position on her "political support" for Wallace and seems to believe that she should comply with certain unclear requirements in ths regard if she is to remain in the ULA. How an alliance with no constitution that I know of which outlines requirements for members other than very general ones and no policies other than the few broad brushstrokes outlined for the purposes of the last election is expected to do this is not clear.

The SP pursuing their beef with Daly into the ULA could well prove to be something the alliance in its present format is unable to withstand.

I'm surprised, frankly, that the alliance has lasted this long.

[Sam Lord]

I'm surprised, frankly, that the alliance has lasted this long.

It's survival is mainly to do with the fact that since the last election it has been safely parked away in a garage with a tarpaulin pulled over it to keep it safe until needed by the SP/SWP at the next election. Daly is now tugging at the tarpaulin and saying it needs to be taken out for a run. This may result in it crashing into a wall as those on board fight over the steering wheel.

[C. Flower]

I'm surprised, frankly, that the alliance has lasted this long.

Unfortunately, the main reason for that seems to be a shared opportunism on the part of the two largest "shareholders" in the company board / steering committee, who live in hope of some kind of Syriza / Linke electoral breakthrough. It is a political morass. But because political differences have been put to one side, and the main organisations have left the ULA on the back shelf, it has remained in stasis. But at the same time, it is crying out to be done. There are people who want to become active or to ally with other active groups, and the ULA ,as I'm sure the JRG would say, "the only game in town" - potentially creating some political space.

A kind of Montessori group for new leftists.

It remains to be seen if there are enough unaligned with the grit to push it to the point of development.

[Kev Bar]

CF - this has to be among the stupidest statements that you have ever come out with.

Do you have any understanding of the role of the media as a tool of the bourgeois establishment in a capitalist society?

I just managed to lose - not my computer - a very long reply to the above.

Just posting the above to try and goad myself into repeating it again soon.

[fluffybiscuits]

it's survival is mainly to do with the fact that since the last election it has been safely parked away in a garage with a tarpaulin pulled over it to keep it safe until needed by the sp/swp at the next election. Daly is now tugging at the tarpaulin and saying it needs to be taken out for a run. This may result in it crashing into a wall as those on board fight over the steering wheel.

:d :d :d

[Baron von Biffo]

Unfortunately, the main reason for that seems to be a shared opportunism on the part of the two largest "shareholders" in the company board / steering committee, who live in hope of some kind of Syriza / Linke electoral breakthrough. It is a political morass. But because political differences have been put to one side, and the main organisations have left the ULA on the back shelf, it has remained in stasis. But at the same time, it is crying out to be done. There are people who want to become active or to ally with other active groups, and the ULA ,as I'm sure the JRG would say, "the only game in town" - potentially creating some political space.

A kind of Montessori group for new leftists.

It remains to be seen if there are enough unaligned with the grit to push it to the point of development.

The Daly affair will lead to the breakup of the ULA. If she's allowed to remain, it would be a defeat for the SP and if she's forced out it means the SWP loses face.

My guess is that Uncle Joe will see some great issue of principle that will force him to lead his merry band into purer waters.

[C. Flower]

The Daly affair will lead to the breakup of the ULA. If she's allowed to remain, it would be a defeat for the SP and if she's forced out it means the SWP loses face.

My guess is that Uncle Joe will see some great issue of principle that will force him to lead his merry band into purer waters.

The SP and SWP seem to disagree with as much as they agree on. This is just one more thing that they can overlook.