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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    That really was God awful *****. Seems I was wrong about Boyd-Barrett being the thickest TD in the Dail, his party colleague has snatched the crown from him.
    Dang! Sorry I missed that. Anything more about what she said?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    That really was God awful *****. Seems I was wrong about Boyd-Barrett being the thickest TD in the Dail, his party colleague has snatched the crown from him.
    She is not in the SWP as far as I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MediaBite View Post
    Dang! Sorry I missed that. Anything more about what she said?
    You didn't miss much. In the pauses between Wilson's monologues Collins rambled incoherently and almost incomprehensibly.

    The nub of it seems to be that the PBPA aren't shedding tears over the split in the SP and sleep wouldn't be lost if Uncle Joe led his remaining troops out of the ULA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    She is not in the SWP as far as I know.
    It's hard to keep track of all the chunks in the Alphabet Soup. Are they not both PBPA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    It's hard to keep track of all the chunks in the Alphabet Soup. Are they not both PBPA?
    Good to see that someone is at least watching the pot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    It's hard to keep track of all the chunks in the Alphabet Soup. Are they not both PBPA?
    I think that's right - she is in PBP, but not the SWP.

    She is the person who gave Bertie Ahern an earful outside the Dail, before the General Election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus View Post
    I think she is letting friendship come ahead of morals.
    Were there not rumours (wholly unsubstantiated of course ;-) that this was a particularly close friendship??

    People thinking with parts of their anatomy other than the brain might explain a lot, I suppose. Hypothetically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morticia View Post
    Were there not rumours (wholly unsubstantiated of course ;-) that this was a particularly close friendship??

    People thinking with parts of their anatomy other than the brain might explain a lot, I suppose. Hypothetically.
    I'm surprised at you morticia ..... and you a moderator an all
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    Quote Originally Posted by MediaBite View Post
    Dang! Sorry I missed that. Anything more about what she said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by morticia View Post
    Were there not rumours (wholly unsubstantiated of course ;-) that this was a particularly close friendship??

    People thinking with parts of their anatomy other than the brain might explain a lot, I suppose. Hypothetically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    I think that's right - she is in PBP, but not the SWP.

    She is the person who gave Bertie Ahern an earful outside the Dail, before the General Election.
    She is formerly a member of the SP. I know SP comrades in the past would have considered her to be closer to them politically than the SWP but given the complete lack of progress with the ULA and what appear to be insurmountable differences in organizational perspectives I think that judgment was a tad erroneous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antiestablishmentarian View Post
    She is formerly a member of the SP. I know SP comrades in the past would have considered her to be closer to them politically than the SWP but given the complete lack of progress with the ULA and what appear to be insurmountable differences in organizational perspectives I think that judgment was a tad erroneous.
    I've heard her speak, and agree with you on this.

    The problem with the ULA is not so much inability to agree overall organisational perspectives, as inability to even agree on some useful actions that are not contentious and to carry them forward. The ULA is nowhere to be seen as an entity, even as a broad alliance, such is the fear that it should take legs and outpace any of the main component parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    The problem with the ULA is not so much inability to agree overall organisational perspectives, as inability to even agree on some useful actions that are not contentious and to carry them forward. The ULA is nowhere to be seen as an entity, even as a broad alliance, such is the fear that it should take legs and outpace any of the main component parties.
    There's the nub of it. Higgins, Boyd-Barrett and the near invisible Healey will never be on the team unless they're the captain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    But she wasn't elected as an independent?

    I think that may be a factor in getting the allowance (at least it should be).
    Today's Indo backs your understanding of the allowance to independents.

    It's hard to see the reasoning behind that way of doing it. The allowance was ostensibly brought in to create a level playing field between independent deputies and their party peers. The position of a former party TD who becomes independent is if anything, more difficult than that of a deputy who was elected as an Ind so surely they should have a right to equal treatment.

    http://www.independent.ie/national-n...h-3221660.html

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    At the risk of feeding paranoia, brilliant cover on the Phoenix.


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